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> What Type Of Celica Do I have?, I know some bits, but not sure about GT etc
post Jul 10, 2010 - 4:39 AM
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Hey Guys.

Recently I purchased my first car, being 15 and from New Zealand I decided a Celica is a good car and for not too much money.

I have become a lot more interested in it and doing small mods and I signed up here seeing all the handy tutorials you all have.

Now, What can I say, what an awesome forum.

Firstly, I know I have a 1993 Toyota Celica, But it is the 6th Gen Shape (Must be December 1993 or something)

It is a ST202 iirc. 3S-GE I think I have also seen under the bonnet, oh it is also the 2.0 litre. biggrin.gif

Here is a pic of the rear -



It doesn't say GT or anything. I know it aint a GT4 though ofcourse tongue.gif.

If the front helps then -



Also interior if the dash helps?




I know it needs a few things such as the 'parcel tray' (For the boot?) , I need to install a new stereo system including speakers, and maybe lower slightly in the future, but firstly I want to know what type it is, and also what you all think?

Hope General is an ok to post this, if not the mods please move it.

Cheers biggrin.gif

Jack

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post Jul 10, 2010 - 6:12 AM
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looks like a JDM SS-II looking at lack of airbags, addition of climate control and being a 1993

your pic of the front is actually the back but i'll assume it have a pre-face lift bumper


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post Jul 10, 2010 - 6:17 AM
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Fixed it up now biggrin.gif

Ok, So I understand that SS-II bit, but JDM? Sorry if I am new, I want to know as much as possible, and would you say it is a decent first car?

Cheers smile.gif
post Jul 10, 2010 - 9:04 AM
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QUOTE (Jacko @ Jul 10, 2010 - 7:17 AM) *
Fixed it up now biggrin.gif

Ok, So I understand that SS-II bit, but JDM? Sorry if I am new, I want to know as much as possible, and would you say it is a decent first car?

Cheers smile.gif

JDM is the japanese domestic market but it's hard to say with you living in New Zealnd cos i don't know what cars you actually got down there and what their factory specs are. best off having a look at the chassis plate behind the engine on the fire wall will have a VIN/Frame No note it down post it up or compare it with others http://www.celica-club.co.uk/wiki/index.ph...s_&_Figures


as for the first car bit, in the UK i doubt many people would be able to run one as a first time car due to cost of insurance, although the cars are pretty cheap to buy now i at 27 have to pay £800 sterling a year to insure her plus the 30mpg average, if i was 17 again i'd probably have to pay well over £2000 sterling a year to insure the car. then there is road tax at over £200 sterling a year, again i don't know what running cost would be like in New Zealand.


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post Jul 10, 2010 - 12:52 PM
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welcome NZ'r biggrin.gif post a pic of the engine bay smile.gif

heres my article on the ST202 here and Clint TRDGT4 from the NZPC mag is also on here
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=58172&hl=

you should also see if its superstrut, basically take a photo of the front shocks, to see if the shock is straight or has a bend in it. then post it up and we'll have a look.


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post Jul 10, 2010 - 1:15 PM
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Great pick up for a first car. I did notice the supra in the background... So you got the celi's awesome bigger more powerful bro in the family too.
post Jul 10, 2010 - 4:44 PM
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Looks like a SS-I no? Being a 93. At these times Japan usually releases it's own car a year before other regions. The production of these cars in Japan started in the Fall of 93. You surely have a ST202 if you have a 3s-GE. New Zealand & Australia only got the ST204 (5s-FE = Zr, Sx-R & Sx) & ST205 (3s-GTE = GT-Four). You have an imported St202 which in my opinion is a SS-I. As mentioned above do you have "Super Strut Suspension"? Should say it on the bottom of the back window and if not you can raise the car a bit and take a gander for yourself and snap a pictures of it to post.

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post Jul 10, 2010 - 5:17 PM
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SS-I came with 3SFE


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post Jul 10, 2010 - 5:59 PM
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QUOTE (Tom_SS2 @ Jul 10, 2010 - 10:04 AM) *
QUOTE (Jacko @ Jul 10, 2010 - 7:17 AM) *
Fixed it up now biggrin.gif

Ok, So I understand that SS-II bit, but JDM? Sorry if I am new, I want to know as much as possible, and would you say it is a decent first car?

Cheers smile.gif

JDM is the japanese domestic market but it's hard to say with you living in New Zealnd cos i don't know what cars you actually got down there and what their factory specs are. best off having a look at the chassis plate behind the engine on the fire wall will have a VIN/Frame No note it down post it up or compare it with others http://www.celica-club.co.uk/wiki/index.ph...s_&_Figures


as for the first car bit, in the UK i doubt many people would be able to run one as a first time car due to cost of insurance, although the cars are pretty cheap to buy now i at 27 have to pay £800 sterling a year to insure her plus the 30mpg average, if i was 17 again i'd probably have to pay well over £2000 sterling a year to insure the car. then there is road tax at over £200 sterling a year, again i don't know what running cost would be like in New Zealand.


Well, Insurance is suprisingly cheap here for me, Insured under mum's name with me as a secondary driver makes it $9/week which is about 4 pounds a week.
Other than that there's rego, about 200 a year, so about 75 pounds.


QUOTE (Rusty @ Jul 10, 2010 - 1:52 PM) *
welcome NZ'r biggrin.gif post a pic of the engine bay smile.gif

heres my article on the ST202 here and Clint TRDGT4 from the NZPC mag is also on here
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=58172&hl=

you should also see if its superstrut, basically take a photo of the front shocks, to see if the shock is straight or has a bend in it. then post it up and we'll have a look.


Will post pics when home, am actually away from home currently and grabbed the pics of the listing that I won (as you can see the watermark haa) but I will do all of that when home, Good to see some more kiwis here and thanks for the help biggrin.gif.

QUOTE (WORK4POOP @ Jul 10, 2010 - 2:15 PM) *
Great pick up for a first car. I did notice the supra in the background... So you got the celi's awesome bigger more powerful bro in the family too.


That's what the person I bought this car off has upgraded to frown.gif. Though, next in line for me is one of those, I just need to make the celica mint, then I will save.


QUOTE (Tech-Nics @ Jul 10, 2010 - 5:44 PM) *
Looks like a SS-I no? Being a 93. At these times Japan usually releases it's own car a year before other regions. The production of these cars in Japan started in the Fall of 93. You surely have a ST202 if you have a 3s-GE. New Zealand & Australia only got the ST204 (5s-FE = Zr, Sx-R & Sx) & ST205 (3s-GTE = GT-Four). You have an imported St202 which in my opinion is a SS-I. As mentioned above do you have "Super Strut Suspension"? Should say it on the bottom of the back window and if not you can raise the car a bit and take a gander for yourself and snap a pictures of it to post.


You are correct, it is a jappa import, only has 192k's which isn't to bad for a 17 year old car (About 110 miles) on the clock.
I certainly do have a ST202 and a 3S-GE like you said, I will take a pic of the suspension hopefully when I am home, but I will also look at all the plates to see if it can tell me haha.
post Jul 10, 2010 - 7:22 PM
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QUOTE (Jacko @ Jul 10, 2010 - 6:59 PM) *
QUOTE (Tom_SS2 @ Jul 10, 2010 - 10:04 AM) *
QUOTE (Jacko @ Jul 10, 2010 - 7:17 AM) *
Fixed it up now biggrin.gif

Ok, So I understand that SS-II bit, but JDM? Sorry if I am new, I want to know as much as possible, and would you say it is a decent first car?

Cheers smile.gif

JDM is the japanese domestic market but it's hard to say with you living in New Zealnd cos i don't know what cars you actually got down there and what their factory specs are. best off having a look at the chassis plate behind the engine on the fire wall will have a VIN/Frame No note it down post it up or compare it with others http://www.celica-club.co.uk/wiki/index.ph...s_&_Figures


as for the first car bit, in the UK i doubt many people would be able to run one as a first time car due to cost of insurance, although the cars are pretty cheap to buy now i at 27 have to pay £800 sterling a year to insure her plus the 30mpg average, if i was 17 again i'd probably have to pay well over £2000 sterling a year to insure the car. then there is road tax at over £200 sterling a year, again i don't know what running cost would be like in New Zealand.


Well, Insurance is suprisingly cheap here for me, Insured under mum's name with me as a secondary driver makes it $9/week which is about 4 pounds a week.
Other than that there's rego, about 200 a year, so about 75 pounds.

bloody hell that's cheap


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post Jul 11, 2010 - 1:14 AM
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QUOTE (Tech-Nics @ Jul 11, 2010 - 9:44 AM) *
Looks like a SS-I no? Being a 93. At these times Japan usually releases it's own car a year before other regions. The production of these cars in Japan started in the Fall of 93. You surely have a ST202 if you have a 3s-GE. New Zealand & Australia only got the ST204 (5s-FE = Zr, Sx-R & Sx) & ST205 (3s-GTE = GT-Four). You have an imported St202 which in my opinion is a SS-I. As mentioned above do you have "Super Strut Suspension"? Should say it on the bottom of the back window and if not you can raise the car a bit and take a gander for yourself and snap a pictures of it to post.

Maybe you could check that above link I posted, although the USDM ST204 covered a very narrow line up, however the JDM ST202 was a very common chassis number covered all the SS series and convertible models (though the SS-I with 4WS was ST203) & those ST204 models names were for the Aust market our ones are called... GS, yup we had to be different


sweet Jack, check T.ME for wreaking celica parts or 'toyota part connections' regarding those parts and missing parts. Anyway enjoy your new car, take it easy.


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post Jul 11, 2010 - 10:18 AM
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QUOTE (Rusty @ Jul 11, 2010 - 2:14 AM) *
QUOTE (Tech-Nics @ Jul 11, 2010 - 9:44 AM) *
Looks like a SS-I no? Being a 93. At these times Japan usually releases it's own car a year before other regions. The production of these cars in Japan started in the Fall of 93. You surely have a ST202 if you have a 3s-GE. New Zealand & Australia only got the ST204 (5s-FE = Zr, Sx-R & Sx) & ST205 (3s-GTE = GT-Four). You have an imported St202 which in my opinion is a SS-I. As mentioned above do you have "Super Strut Suspension"? Should say it on the bottom of the back window and if not you can raise the car a bit and take a gander for yourself and snap a pictures of it to post.

Maybe you could check that above link I posted, although the USDM ST204 covered a very narrow line up, however the JDM ST202 was a very common chassis number covered all the SS series and convertible models (though the SS-I with 4WS was ST203) & those ST204 models names were for the Aust market our ones are called... GS, yup we had to be different


sweet Jack, check T.ME for wreaking celica parts or 'toyota part connections' regarding those parts and missing parts. Anyway enjoy your new car, take it easy.

on launch the JDM cars were SS-I and SS-II, this car must be an SS-II then the SS-I only had a 3S-FE engine, he says he has a 3S-GE engine, SSS was an option on the early SS-II's so that is the question that remains you'll have to check the front hub/shocker assembly for that

model code on your chassis plate should read E-ST202-BLMVF



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post Jul 11, 2010 - 1:30 PM
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there are a few signs to say it is a SS-II
climate control -I've seen only a very few late spec SS-I sometimes had this
3 post sterring wheel
and lastly the most obvious is the rev guage it goes up to 9,000rpm, SS-I's only go up to 8,000rpm

interesting to see if its a SS-II SSS edition


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post Jul 18, 2010 - 11:27 AM
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looks almost identicle to my ss2, if you deffenetly have the 3sge it is ss2

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