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Posted by: malpaso Jan 6, 2007 - 4:04 PM

At last I had some time for another upgrade. Steering wheel swap... My stock one was 4-spoke with airbag/horn in the middle.


Just history now . Since today I have this one genuine 7th gen. Celica/91-04 MR2 st. wheel.


Although horn mechanism and airbag connector were different everything is working now. And I'll try describe here how generally do that... believe it will be handy for anyone

step no one: remove old steering wheel
Two screws on sides (behind small covers) holds airbag part




There are just two plugs inside. That yellow one is for airbag and white is horn (there is possibility also for cruise multi switch, where are many more wires. Horn wire is black, every time that last on right connected to wheel body)


When you unplug everything + unscrew nut in the middle you should remove wheel with puller (w/o that it's not possible at all)


step two: solving airbag connection


Different airbag connector means find right module (spiral) for it...


...or use same airbag refill




Of course... some customization should be done if airbag refill has different size (more are different, more custom work is needed). My one was just bit different... and airbag part was easy take into parts.


step three: solving horn connection
This step depends on type of horn you have. However every time it's about find how horn mechanism works, cut black wire off old wheel and connect it somewhere... It really depends on that horn mechanism. However it's really easy, just one wire to screw... somewhere .

step four: piece everything together
Installation of new wheel body (with same center bore of course) is easy...


...and in my case screw horn cable to airbag body (not wheel body like stock one)...and all finished .

Posted by: snapshotgt Jan 6, 2007 - 4:16 PM

Very nice

Posted by: zCelicaDude Jan 6, 2007 - 4:18 PM

very nice guide. this will be very helpful to the 6gc community. thanks!

Posted by: My2Celi Jan 6, 2007 - 7:46 PM

nice i like it a lot. How much did you get the stearing wheel for?

Posted by: Batman722 Jan 7, 2007 - 12:35 AM

Nice Job Martin

Posted by: malpaso Jan 7, 2007 - 2:39 AM

thanks for posts and PMs. Here is additional info:

7th gen/MR2/MR-S st. wheel. Where and how much?: I have that st. wheel from e-bay for 250USD (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-91-04-MR2-MRS-Blk-Leather-Red-Stitch-Steering-Wheel_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33704QQhashZitem260070888617QQihZ016QQitemZ260070888617 is another one, red stitched )
Why not "how-to article"?: Yes, this should be "how to swap 7th gen st. wheel" article, but only for Euro models. Thanks to snapshotgt I know you have bit different wiring in US (because of that cruise control switch). Euro celicas don't have that at all... That means in US you must swap also that switch -> customize body of that new wheel (cut some hole or anything) and mount it somewhere (some screws in right place???). That's why I rather call it "guide"
Is airbag really works? Are you sure?: Yes, airbag really works. When you turn keys on, every time runs "airbag-check" (airbag control light on for a while). If it's something wrong with check, control lights all the time. That's why I'm sure... Of course second way to prove it is crash .
Do you have part # of that 7th gen module? Will it work in 6gen celi?: par number is not problem 84306-32030. And, no I'm not sure it will work with 6gen celica... . I don't have that module (I didn't want to spend another 50USD), it's just a general option and possible way to try.

Posted by: tomazws Jan 7, 2007 - 4:55 PM

Nice swap dude! That 7th gen steering wheel looks 100x better!

Posted by: My2Celi Jan 7, 2007 - 10:53 PM

aww. i guess i wont be doing it. US import cars are gay.

Posted by: Rockford Jan 7, 2007 - 11:19 PM

Excellent work, congrats!!!!

Posted by: CelicaSweden Feb 10, 2007 - 9:19 AM

Which size is the puller?
100mm, 150mm or 200 mm ?
Need to know asap because Im removing my steering wheel right now : )

Posted by: malpaso Feb 10, 2007 - 10:43 AM

That one I have is 3'' (cca 76mm)

Posted by: CelicaSweden Feb 11, 2007 - 3:16 AM

okey, is that a speciel one for just our celi or is it a universal tool ?

Posted by: malpaso Feb 11, 2007 - 3:28 AM

universal one bought in local store...

Posted by: Excursion745 Feb 11, 2007 - 11:18 PM

7th gen/MR2/MR-S st. wheel. Where and how much?: I have that st. wheel from e-bay for 250USD (here is another one, red stitched )
Why not "how-to article"?: Yes, this should be "how to swap 7th gen st. wheel" article, but only for Euro models. Thanks to snapshotgt I know you have bit different wiring in US (because of that cruise control switch). Euro celicas don't have that at all... That means in US you must swap also that switch -> customize body of that new wheel (cut some hole or anything) and mount it somewhere (some screws in right place???). That's why I rather call it "guide"


Now what if i took out the cruise control.. does that mean i dont need to mod the new wheel or do i still need to put that dead switch in the new wheel???

Posted by: malpaso Feb 12, 2007 - 2:29 AM

If you will remove cruise control (that means you will not use it in your car anymore) you should do same steps like I did, plus:

1. remove cruise control switch (for sure it should be removed)
2. modify wiring harness (same plug is used for horn and cruise control switch -> you must cut anything but horn).

For example:
In picture below is plug (white, bottom of picture) and 4 wires. White, white+black-stripe, red, black. That black is horn (must stay) rest you should cut, because those are wires for cruise.


that's all

Posted by: Batman722 Feb 27, 2007 - 10:56 PM

I was lucky enough to get my hands on some 7th gen parts at a good price

from this



and about an hour later this



sorry about the night pic, but I just finished. I'll get some day pics tomorrow or so.

Martin, the way I did it was easier than the way you did - no airbag repacking, just a splice here and there also, I used the 7th gen cruise switch (it's wired different than the 6th gen) so I'm 99% sure it works, I just need to road test it.

Posted by: j0e_p3t Feb 27, 2007 - 11:13 PM

nice. now i'm really thinking about doing this mod. what did you do different from martin's how-to?

Posted by: malpaso Feb 28, 2007 - 1:43 AM

I'm glad someone had all parts from 7th gen (particularly 7th gen module/spiral) and made it different way...



So, am I understand right, you have used that module and it works even with cruise control??? More info please!!!

Posted by: Batman722 Feb 28, 2007 - 8:52 AM

the 7th gen clockspring (spiral) does not fit in the 6th gen. I simpily cut the connector off the 7th gen spiral and used it on my 6th gen one. Both have 2 wires, blue/black and yellow. It made the swap a 15-30min job. As for the cruise it get's a little tricky. The 7th gen switch has 2 wires from it (red and white) and the 6th gen has 3 (red, white, and white w/black stripe). You just have to find the right combination of 2 wires. I tried a few before I got it, I think it was w/bck to white, and white to red (from 6 to 7)

Posted by: malpaso Feb 28, 2007 - 9:30 AM

yea... but you have 50% chance to connect it bad an deploy it . Any way to be sure which one is which?

I had black/red on 7th gen and red/red on 6th gen...

Posted by: Batman722 Feb 28, 2007 - 11:20 AM

Martin NO !!! I cut here not the bag connection itself



I had the 7th gen spiral wthat connects to the 7th gen airbag, the piece you didn't have

Posted by: malpaso Feb 28, 2007 - 12:09 PM

cunning

Posted by: Negative Feb 28, 2007 - 2:27 PM

There is also a 6th gen steering wheel that looks like that. Mine came with it. The only difference is the center part where the airbag is has embossed Toyota symbol and texture that matches our interior. I have seen them in junkyards before. This should make a much easier swap I would think although I haven't tried it [obviously]. Here is a pic of my stock steering wheel:

Sorry it's crooked but that was the only shot of the wheel that I had. Also several other cars came with it like Supra for instance if you can find one.

Posted by: Batman722 Feb 28, 2007 - 2:41 PM

correct. The 98-99s had a 3 spoke also. IMO the 7th gen airbag looks better and is a lot easier to find.

Posted by: Batman722 Feb 28, 2007 - 6:07 PM

and some more pics







I still need to clean and shine it up but I think you guys get the point.

Posted by: azian_advanced Mar 1, 2007 - 2:25 AM

are all 7th gen steering wheels the same? do any come with leather?
i have a spare 3-spoke non-airbag 6th gen steering wheel from my sister's 94 6th gen and that wasn't wrapped in leather.. the wheel is thick and has a lot less grip.
anyway, my search for the jdm cf supra wheel continues.....

Posted by: malpaso Mar 1, 2007 - 2:43 AM

ehm... my one is leather

Posted by: Negative Mar 1, 2007 - 9:46 AM

So is my stock 3 post. Well pleather or whatever Toyota uses LOL.

Posted by: Batman722 Mar 1, 2007 - 11:05 AM

do they all fit the same with the airbag ? yes. There are 3 7th gen wheels that I know of.

the leather wrapped wheel as Martin pictured



the non-leather wheel that I have



and the leather wrapped GT-S wheel



I went with the non leather because I had removed my leather interior (seats/wheel/knob) and went with more of a cleaner look IMO, just keeping it simple and more subtle. I have seen so many leather wheels and knobs showing their age being worn and I'd rather not deal with that issue a few years down the road.

Posted by: kerosene Jul 8, 2007 - 4:17 PM

even though o wasn't replacing my steering wheel, I was fixing my horn, this helped a great deal...Thanks...btw i took my pillow off without a puller...

Posted by: Kadett Jul 9, 2007 - 7:00 AM

I really want one. To bad there aren't any available here in Holland for a descent price. I dont need the airbag but no junkyard will sell without and asking price = 400 euro's (550 USD)

Posted by: dutchboy Jul 11, 2007 - 3:13 PM

Hi, have you made a write-up/how-to on the swap process?

Does the 7th gen steering column bolt right up?

What wires and where do you splice?

Did the cruise control work properly?

Thanks, really want to do this on my car!

Posted by: Kadett Jul 23, 2007 - 10:17 AM

Found Myself a nice Leather 7th gen steering wheel completely intact. Cant wait to put it on. Since I dont have a Wheel Puller I will pay Mr T a visit and lend it there

Posted by: dutchboy Jul 25, 2007 - 4:48 AM

Anyone know if the 6th gen cruise control switch will mount into the 7th gen wheel (US).

Thanks

Posted by: malpaso Jul 25, 2007 - 4:57 AM

IMO it will. It's just about one screw to fit...

Posted by: dutchboy Jul 25, 2007 - 8:19 PM

Is the back side of the 7th gen wheel metal or plastic? Tan corolla 3-spokes are fairly common/cheap, if metal, paint will look pretty good, then I can re-upholster the grips whatever color I want.

Posted by: njccmd2002 Jul 25, 2007 - 8:26 PM

Now all you have to do is test the airbag to see if it works.

No, really, very nice mod. I would be scared to do this, epecially messing with the airbag module.

CONGRATS!!!!!

Posted by: thespacepanda Jan 22, 2008 - 10:23 PM

Nice write-up, man.

Just out of curiosity, if I were to purchase a momo wheel in the near future (and yes I would have the hub adapter), how difficult would it be to install? Obviously there would be no issue with wiring the airbag but has anyone installed an aftermarket steering wheel?

Posted by: tankd0g Apr 1, 2008 - 8:42 PM

Slightly OT but how come there's a GT-2 sticker on your cruise control, is that how you turn the car into attack mode?

Posted by: reko Apr 2, 2009 - 1:04 PM

Taking the thread back from the dead lol….

Quick question here… what if i currently own a momo steering with adapter… and want to put a 7th gen ? My car is a GT-S with SRS… so i have the yellow plug hanging… but if i buy a 7th gen steering, the SRS plug from it wont fit my 6th gen one… what can i do ? I dont have the stock steering with srs anymore…

Posted by: njccmd2002 Apr 2, 2009 - 6:34 PM

take the momo steering of, and show us a picture. you can still put the steering, the airbag wont be functional.

you need to get the plug otherwise you cant use it.

Posted by: windowlicker Apr 7, 2009 - 6:25 PM

quick question, is there any special process when disconnecting the airbag? i know some cars you have to disconnect the battery and let set for like a half hour before you disconnect it, then there are some that you can disconnect no problem. just got an NRG wheel that i'll be installing in the next week or two and don't want an airbag in the face when i go to do the install.

Posted by: njccmd2002 Apr 7, 2009 - 6:43 PM

do the safest, disconnect the battery.

Posted by: windowlicker Apr 7, 2009 - 6:48 PM

will do. i get spoiled with the mercedes airbags where i can just unplug them and not worry about it.

Posted by: deliriouzgtfour Apr 14, 2009 - 12:41 AM

any other precautions before starting...? like discharging the battery from the terminal and taking a fuse out so that the airbag will not deploy? Any other precautions, please let us know. Thanks


I'd hate for something to go wrong.



Otherwise nice DYI post

Posted by: malpaso Apr 14, 2009 - 2:13 AM

What I did is only disconnecting battery. Nothing else. No fuses, no nothing else.

Posted by: deliriouzgtfour Apr 14, 2009 - 4:17 PM

fixed my horn. On the other hand, wire was torn inside for the horn. Thanks malpaso. Anyone willing to do the 7th gen wheel swap for me? Ill pay someone..haha

Posted by: windowlicker Apr 22, 2009 - 1:18 PM

took the airbag off this morning to speed up the process of changing out the wheel possibly tonight. just waiting on the hub from sparco that is supposed to be coming in today. can't wait to get the new wheel and quick release on for this weekend's rallyx.

Posted by: azian_advanced Apr 22, 2009 - 1:56 PM

as long as the 7th gen wheel you get comes with the airbag components, you can wire it up with your stock gt-s airbag harness as mentioned in the how-to.

Posted by: windowlicker Apr 22, 2009 - 2:12 PM

oh, i'm not putting in a toyota wheel, i'm putting in a NRG wheel with quick release. i will not have an airbag, don't want an airbag to the face while taking the car off sweet jumps in a rally.

Posted by: reko Apr 22, 2009 - 9:56 PM

Hey I'm having a hard time trying to put the steering back...

You know where there is the bolt that holds the steering like here in the middle...


well i dont really know how to explain it but the thing on which you put the bolt it kinda shape in a star patern and so is the steering but i cant align those two properly so the steering wont go as far as it's suppose too... thus i can easily remove it...

any tips anyone?

Posted by: windowlicker Apr 22, 2009 - 11:17 PM

well its a little late for this now, but what i have in my tool box at work is a sharpie. whenever i have to change out a steering angle sensor, i mark the 12 o'clock position on the main steering shaft and the wheel so i get the wheel put back on in the right spot. all you can do at this point is count how many turns it takes to go from complete left to complete right, then divide that by 2. it should get approximately where you need it. i would start there and see what you can do. i'd recommend putting the front on jack stands to make it easy to turn the wheel without the car on and that way its easier to take off and put on the wheel in the spot you need without turning the car on.

hope that helps and if there's anything else i may be able to help you with, give me a holler.

Posted by: azian_advanced Apr 22, 2009 - 11:25 PM

yeah the wheel is supposed to be very tight.. use an impact gun to bolt it in or get a big socket 24mm and up and put it around the bolt so it sits on the wheel and carefully hammer it in place.. i dunno just throwing out some ideas...

Posted by: windowlicker Apr 22, 2009 - 11:50 PM

it didn't look that big, maybe a 17mm. impact gun works awesome, but if you're in a pinch, a long handled ratchet or breaker bar will do while you hold onto the wheel tight.

Posted by: reko Apr 23, 2009 - 8:25 AM

That's the thing... i have a garage, impact gun and a big ass compressor but my car is at home ... without the steering! F*** I guess i'll have to try with the ratchet (then if its tight enough i'll be able to drive all the way to my garage...)

And Windowlicker, i know about the mark but i'm putting a new steering on!

Posted by: chacha May 1, 2009 - 10:21 AM

what's the part number for the clock spring....all i have is just the steering wheel without it...would it be best just to find a 7th gen clock spring? is that all i need and just splicing?

Posted by: Superaison Jun 4, 2009 - 7:55 PM

I did this today.

Was really easy, I didnt **** with the airbag refill, I just changed the connector on the current spiral to the new, was fast and easy.


Here is pic:




You don't want to know how much I got it for.

Posted by: Dragondog Jun 5, 2009 - 1:57 AM

i got a question if you swap wheels with one thats not airbag is that illegal? will it pass inspection? someone told me it depends on the year of the car that 94+ must have driver airbag........my home state is texas if that makes a diff?

Posted by: windowlicker Jun 7, 2009 - 9:09 PM

here's some pics of the nrg wheel, nrg quick release, and the sparco hub installed. i really like the position of it as i won't have to be reaching for it when i have the seat reclined in order for me to fit in the car with a helmet on. still need to figure out how to wire up the horn, but i'm lazy....lol

Posted by: windowlicker Jun 7, 2009 - 9:12 PM

i'd check your state's dmv website and see if anything is on there about it or go to your local inspection shop and ask them. that would be your best bet because a lot of the time people just go off what they hear and it may or may not be the truth. better to hear it from whoever is making the laws or doing the inspections. good luck.

Posted by: windowlicker Jun 17, 2009 - 8:46 PM

ok, i finished wiring the horn in last weekend, so i'll post up what i did in case any of you guys do an aftermarket wheel like me. i used an NRG steering wheel with an NRG quick release and a SPARCO steering wheel hub. for connectors, i used 2 eyelet connectors and an inline splice connector. the reason i used the inline splice connector was in case i want to put the stock wheel back in, i didn't FUBAR the wiring or stock connector. plus its easy to put in and take off if needed.





there were two wires on the quick release and steering wheel horn button, but there was only one wire on the hub. basically i ended up using the one wire from the hub as the positive (signal wire) for the horn, and then i used one of the eyelet connectors on the black wire from the quick release as the ground. i grounded it via one of the screws that attaches the quick release to the hub. there is a metal shim that goes between the quick release and the hub, so you will need to take some cutters and trim out a notch big enough for the connector.



after you get the quick release or wheel firmly attached to the hub, you'll want to move onto locating the signal wire for the horn at the connecter by the steering column. its the green wire at the end of the connector. an easy way to make sure is to take a short piece of wire, slide one end in the connector which is the contact for the green wire and ground it out. if you have the right wire, the horn will beep. i highly recommend doing this with the key out of the ignition. it will work without the key, and the reason i recommend doing it with the key off is so you don't short to ground a different circuit and fry it.


now you're going to need to make a wire that will go from the green wire to the back of the hub. there is a contact area that you need to touch the signal wire to. the contact is the gold colored ring that allows you to keep contact while the wheel is turning.
in order to keep the signal wire contacting the gold ring on the back of the hub, i made a bracket that will constantly touch the gold ring. i made it from a piece of scrap metal i had laying around. it is important to make a smooth curve to the side that will contact the ring, as you don't want to scrape the hell out of the ring, which will lead to wear and a scraping noise.




the part in between my fingers is the part that touches the gold ring.

now you'll want to cut some 16 gauge wire (keep very close to the same size wire as what is at the connector from the steering column) to about 5". on one end you will want to put the second eyelet connector. the end with nothing on it is where you will use the inline splice connector at the green wire.


as for a place to put the bracket i made to contact the gold ring, i am just using the attaching point where the stock clock spring (steering angle sensor) screwed in, and i used the screw from the clock spring as well. sandwich the eyelet connector from the wire and the bracket, then tighten down the screw.



make sure that the curve is directed to make the smoothest path on the gold ring and make sure there is decent tension on the bracket.




don't forget to double check your work through the process and keep checking to see if the horn works through the process. if you keep checking as you go, then the less you have to back track if you make a mistake. it's pretty simple and easy though.

Posted by: AnaXyd Jun 20, 2009 - 10:27 AM

Will this swap from f.ex the Celica T23 to T20 actually work if you collide? Have somebody checked this?

Posted by: tankd0g Jul 23, 2009 - 12:25 AM

I just swapped a 99 rav4 wheel into my 5th gen (looks like a 98-99 celica 3 spoke). The 5th gen cruise control switch is an analog device as far as I can tell, with 4 wires on it. The Rav4 switch was a 2 wire digital. So I had to reuse my switch. It fits half decent using two of the holes already in the new wheel. Had to make a little bracket out of a peice of metal that I had but that was it. I thought I was going to be able to put the charge from my 5th gen airbag into the new wheel but it's much bigger than a 6th gen airbag like is pictured at the start of this thread, so no go. I could cut and splice the wires but I'm afraid that the trigger system is different so I decided it was safer just to leave the airbag out. I yanked the airbag light from the dash as well as the ABS light which I also have permanently disabled.

All in all it looks pretty good and the 1" smaller wheel makes for much quicker handling. Can't find the card for my camera or I would have taken pictures for all this but if anyone needs to see what I did with the cruise control switch I can get a picture of it.

Posted by: shegarhuney Jul 28, 2009 - 4:29 PM

GUYS!!.. i want to share a very very important information with you guys that i just discovered just now!!.. i can confirm this.. coz its working on my car now.. for all you guys that have the gen7 steering wheel n want the cruise control to work with your current clock spring.. instead of splicing n stuff.. you can get the newer version cruise control lever from a 98' or a 99' and its plug and play!!.. i got it to work.. i'm SO SO SO SO HAPPPPYYYYY... SO YUP.. will take some picts to prove my point!!..

FINALLYYY..

BOWAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAA..

Posted by: zonz540 Jul 29, 2009 - 1:06 AM

I swapped a GT4 wheel w/out an airbag into my 6gc and it worked great, but decided that id rather have an airbag for safety and emissions. I put it all back together and my light wont go off. Any reset procedures or problems i may have caused? I plugged in all the harnesses and got the clock spring lined up in the center.

Posted by: AnaXyd Aug 7, 2009 - 9:51 AM

Posted by: GriffGirl Jan 10, 2010 - 7:16 PM

this should be stickied!

Posted by: Wintersun Jan 10, 2010 - 8:58 PM

Have a Gen 7 wheel in my Gen 6 SSIII and was easy to swap, just plug and play with horn and airbag.

Posted by: abraxxa Jan 16, 2010 - 3:52 AM

Thanks to malpaso who redirected me to this thread from the gtfour.ch forums to find out how to mount my Lexus IS200/Toyota ST205 JDM hybrid wheel to my ST205.

My problem is just the different airbag connector.
I'll use the Lexus wheel because it's leather and the airbag from the JDM ST205 wheel because of the Toyota Logo.
I have a Rav 4 airbag here two I got from a Lexus guy who wanted the Airbag, also because of the logo, so we swapped.

The airbag from the JDM wheel has two brown wires, the one from the Rav 4 wheel a black an a red one, both have the small connector.
If I cut the wires and mount the big connector from my '96 4-spoke wheel to one of the airbags, how do I find out which way it should be connected?

Posted by: malpaso Jan 16, 2010 - 11:14 AM

See http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=71587 made by Michelle. Answer is there . And do not forget post some pictures when it's done!

Posted by: devilsden97 Jan 16, 2010 - 12:25 PM

Does the RHD JDM st205 wheel have an air bag? and if so, is it as "direct" of a swap as all these others?

edit: even if it doesnt have an airbag, how easy of a swap would it be?

Posted by: GriffGirl Jan 16, 2010 - 3:00 PM

Black is ground, red is power. If the two wires coming off the wheel itself are both brown, you will need to use a multimeter to see which is which.



RHD vs LHD shouldn't matter where the steering wheel is concerned, since it's a circle

As for the directness of the swap, shouldn't be any more direct or less direct a swap than any other wheel discussed here. The wheel will swap right over, the airbag either will plug right in or it won't and you'll have to splice it in. No biggie.

Posted by: shegarhuney Jan 18, 2010 - 5:34 PM

no more fuss.. the missing link ladies n gentlemen..

Posted by: GriffGirl Jan 20, 2010 - 5:25 PM

Since this thread is pretty much the most thorough how-to-swap-your-steering wheel, I'd love to see it completed with information on how to splice in the 7th gen cruise stalk for those of us not lucky enough to get a 98-99 or whatever it was that's plug-n-play.

As a side note, in the interest of consolidating info, here is how to clear the airbag code, as per the BGB for a '95 USDM Celica

Posted by: malpaso Jan 21, 2010 - 8:32 AM

OMG... I really didn't know what my now 3 years old topic can make . Thank you all with sharing with your own ways how to solve airbag issue. It's really amazing.

Posted by: GriffGirl Jan 22, 2010 - 12:03 AM

Now, back to that cruise stalk swap! I'm clearly electrically challenged, so the odds of me figuring this out any time soon are slim. Help? BAAAAAAATMAAAAAN!

Posted by: Batman722 Jan 22, 2010 - 8:23 AM

I just looked over my notes, it's not super clear.

From the 6gen connector from the clockspring there's 3 wires
red
white
white w/black stripe
right ? (and the black horn)

7 gen to 6 gen
red to red
black (cut) to white
white to white w/black

that all I got, I took them both apart and saw the diff, check itr out
good luck

Posted by: shegarhuney Jan 29, 2010 - 4:38 PM

hehe..

Posted by: abraxxa Jan 29, 2010 - 5:16 PM

Good to see that the adapter fits!
I'm still waiting for mine to arrive, one to three weeks.

Posted by: yarik83 Jan 29, 2010 - 5:42 PM

malpaso. I understand that you need a puller to remove the column to completely remove wheel but would I be able to take the wheel, unscrew that center piller and somehow rotate my steering wheel 180 degrees without removing it? 2 years back when I had engine swap they mounted my steering wheel upside down. I was wondering if I could pull this off without a puller.

Thank you sir

Posted by: abraxxa Jan 29, 2010 - 5:49 PM

I removed mine about a year ago without a puller but it took about 10-15 minutes.

Posted by: GriffGirl Jan 30, 2010 - 1:21 AM

I needed a puller to remove my 4 spoke wheel, definitely NO way I would've gotten it w/out a puller, but to remove the 3 spoke wheel I don't expect I'd need a puller whatsoever. My guess, Yarik, since yours has been removed once already, is that you may not need one.

If you do need one, you can get it from Autozone; they "rent" them - you buy it for $20, use it, and return it for a refund (their policy!)

Posted by: malpaso Jan 30, 2010 - 1:56 AM

exactly. depends on wheel... old ST st.wheel was impossible to remove w/o puller but at GT-four it was easy. So unless you give a try you never know

Posted by: GriffGirl Feb 16, 2010 - 3:50 PM

Just thought I'd update this with my own findings, I was able to order this part off of http://www.handsontools.com/; prior to ordering I emailed to confirm part is in stock - part is in stock and will ship within 48 hrs. Part costs $16 on this site, but shipping is a bit high at $10 for UPS ground.

Edit: sub-"herness"? lol

Posted by: GriffGirl Feb 16, 2010 - 4:01 PM

Can anyone confirm this? I spliced in my 7th gen cruise stalk this weekend but it's not working.

On the 7th gen stalk, the black is crimped in with the white w/black wire, so I basically did the same with the clockspring side of the harness, cut in the W and W/B to the same on the stalk. I'm thinking this is where I went wrong - do I need to separate the B and the W/B on the stalk and splice them in separately to the clockspring side?

Also, would this possibly cause an airbag ecu code? I spliced in my airbag again, blue to black, yellow to red, reset the airbag ecu but the light is still on. I ran diagnostics on it, it's Code 12. Anyone else get this problem?

I have to run through DEQ in a month, and am pretty sure I won't pass if my SRS Warning light is on. Help!

Posted by: samir0189 Feb 16, 2010 - 4:15 PM

how did you clear the airbag code? At the DLC?

Posted by: GriffGirl Feb 16, 2010 - 4:52 PM

Edit: Samir, I'll email you the PDF out of the BGB - it's got diagrams and PICTURES! lol

Edit again: Here's the PDFs for anyone else who wants them. "http://www.griffgirl.com/celica/srs.pdf" has the wiring diagram, "http://www.griffgirl.com/celica/air_bag_restraint_system.pdf" contains trouble shooting, reset info and codes interpretation

Posted by: samir0189 Feb 16, 2010 - 4:55 PM

ive got the BGB, thats why i was asking if thats how you cleared it. In that case, im gonna guess something bigger is wrong, incorrect wiring or something? code 12 is not very specific....

Posted by: GriffGirl Feb 16, 2010 - 5:09 PM

I think you're right, I think it's something with my connections actually.

Today I ordered the adapter harness - a bit too little, too late perhaps, I don't know. I depinned the clock-spring side of the connector, but didn't actually CUT anything off, so it's possible I could re-pin the connector, use the adapter, and be good to go!

Posted by: Arsaces Sep 15, 2011 - 10:02 AM

Hey guys,

I am thinking hard about doing this swap, but I see a lot of people who are having trouble with it and I need to drive this car daily. I have a few questions, and I know some of them have been answered, but I want to be 100% confident and clear before a buy the parts to start the swap. My car is a 95 USDM by the way. First off, if I am lucky and able to find a 98-99 wheel do I still need to do splicing and modding to get the airbag to connect? What about the Rav4 wheel (looks pretty much the same imo)? Regarding cruise control, will I not be able to use my existing 6g cruise control stalk?

Shopping list:
7th gen Wheel or Rav4 wheel or 98-99 6gen wheel
7th gen airbag
Airbag connector adapter
???

Posted by: abraxxa Sep 15, 2011 - 11:22 AM

Just buy the adapter posted above.

Posted by: Arsaces Sep 15, 2011 - 12:39 PM

And the current cruise control works just fine?

Posted by: spy00005 Sep 15, 2011 - 12:46 PM

buy the adapter and just leave the cruise control it had thats what i did (with a 7th gen wheel)

Posted by: Arsaces Sep 15, 2011 - 12:51 PM

Ok, thank you very much. I really appreciate all of the knowledge that all the people of this forum have shared with me so far, it honestly means a lot.

Posted by: trdproven Sep 22, 2011 - 10:05 PM

i disabled my cruise control, the red stitch steering wheel didn't have the extra cruise control lever, but I've never used it anyway.

Posted by: Arsaces Sep 23, 2011 - 8:30 PM

Hey guys, got my steering wheel on, I would like to wire up my CC lever. Does anyone still have the splicing information, or can anyone confirm that the connections batman posted are correct? One of the CC levers I have has 3 wires coming off of it, and the other has 2.

Posted by: spy00005 Sep 23, 2011 - 8:51 PM

i used the old cc in my old steering wheel had but don't know about using the splicing.

Posted by: Arsaces Sep 23, 2011 - 9:41 PM

I was expecting to be able to do the same, but the new stalk is much shorter inside the wheel than the old one was, the old one I have does not fit.

Posted by: spy00005 Sep 24, 2011 - 12:58 AM

which steering wheel are you using because the old cc should fit just not going to be straight out would be angled down something like this \ mine defenatly fit but like i said im using the 7th gen leather wheel have no idea about the other ones ill see if i can take a pic tomorrow.

Posted by: Arsaces Sep 24, 2011 - 4:06 PM

The ebay listing says that it is off of an 03 celica, but it looks more like a rav4 wheel to me, no leather wrapping, just the same material as our e-brake. The CC off of my car has 3 mounting screws, but the new wheel only has 2 mounting holes, and the mounting area is much smaller making it so that the old one will not fit.

Posted by: spy00005 Sep 24, 2011 - 4:36 PM

IIRC I just used 1 screw to mount mine and made sure it was decently tight no need for all 3 screws I'll go to my car and take a pic give me like 30 mins

Posted by: Arsaces Sep 24, 2011 - 8:26 PM

Good information here:
http://supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?165265-GTS-wheel-installed-today!&p=5623053#post5623053
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-425770.html

I now know what I must do, when I get the resistors wired up and the switch working I will post back here to let you guys know

Posted by: spy00005 Sep 25, 2011 - 2:07 AM

talk about more than half an hour lol.
but here if it helps.

Posted by: Arsaces Sep 25, 2011 - 4:18 PM

I got my CC stalk all working. I tried to splice the wires and install it, but it ended up being a bit more involved than that. I figured this thread would be the best place for a writeup considering it is the most comprehensive guide to swapping steering wheels, correct me if I am wrong:

First off a little background information, our cruise stalk has 3 wires + the horn wire, the new cruise stalk has 2 + horn. Here is the wiring diagram for the 2, simplified:


As you can see, we will need to make some modifications, here is a redrawn diagram of what we need to do:


Now, on to the work, Cut the connector off of your 6gc stalk, giving yourself enough to solder onto. Then take your 7gc stalk, depin the yellow wire from the connector, and cut the white and red wires. You will need to pull the white part out of the stalk housing, there are 4 clips (2 on each side) that will need to be popped off. Slide the black wire cover off of the red and white wires. You will be left with this:


You will notice that there are 2 black wires coming off of the switch itself, these black wires are used to turn the CC on or off, and our diagram shows that we will want to cut the black wire off of the red wire.


Here are the new resistors soldered in. I noted that the factory resistors did not seem to be soldered in, they feel like they are pressed together, or something like that, I had to snip the leads. Notice that for the 420 ohm resistor I had to use 2, because I did not have that particular value of resistor on hand. Resistors in series can be added to each other, in my case I used a 270 and a 150 ohm resistor to make 420 ohms:


Now cut your yellow wire in half and solder up the connector using the following color codes:

7gc stalk----------------6gc connector
Black-----------------------White
White--------------------White/black
Red--------------------------Red
Yellow-----------------------Black

You will be left with this (my yellow wire is not pictured, because I took it off while experimenting):


And installed:


Thanks for everyone's help making this happen: specifically I would like to thank njccmd2002 for the resistance values, and jiggersplat form the supra forums for the wiring diagram.
Here are the sources I used for most of my information:
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=58797&hl=cruise
http://supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?165265-GTS-wheel-installed-today!&p=5623053#post5623053

Posted by: dudeofchaos Sep 26, 2011 - 5:47 AM

You guys know if it's possible to plug an airbag wheel to a car that didn't came with one? I just bough a new 6gc but it has an aftermarket momo wheel on it, but I'd like to go back with an oem 6gc 3spoke cc/airbag/horn wheel. (if there is a model with all 3 options)

Posted by: Arsaces Sep 26, 2011 - 8:25 AM

Take off the steering wheel and take a picture. I would venture to guess that your car came stock with an airbag, and the connector, sensors, etc are probably still there. You might want to find out if the previous owner replaced the airbag because of a crash, if so you have to replace more than just the airbag.

Posted by: dudeofchaos Sep 26, 2011 - 8:38 AM

The guy said he bought it this way. (It's a Jdm 94 Gt-Four btw). But I'll ask him if he knows, I'm going to get it tomorrow.

Posted by: spy00005 Sep 26, 2011 - 9:28 AM

For some GT-4 especially the first models airbag was optional i think it came standard after OBDII IIRC so your car might have never came with airbag but it SHOULD still have the connector back there for it make sure there like an airbag control under the armrest might want to make sure its there and does the passenger side have an air bag?

Posted by: dudeofchaos Sep 26, 2011 - 12:12 PM

Honestly I didn't pay attention to that, I guess I'll see if passenger side has it. But, you say there's an airbag control under the armrest? You mean under the whole plastic?

Posted by: spy00005 Sep 26, 2011 - 1:52 PM

yea IIRC there is
http://www.6gc.net/howto/install_trd_quickshifter

you can see it in the 2nd pic and they confirm it if you read this somewhere there even thought that how to is unrelated to this =.

Posted by: dudeofchaos Sep 26, 2011 - 5:07 PM

Oh, nice! Thanks, I'll look for that.

Posted by: xrav22 Oct 27, 2011 - 3:41 PM

Hi guys I have been reading all this good info but I really just want to replace my 4 spoke wheel with airbag/cruise with a 3 spoke wheel .
From what I have been reading most like 7th gen(looks a bit better) and then splice and stuff. It seems a 98 or 99 3 spoke is not as nice looking but it will
plug and play. Is this correct? I am sure I can find one somewhere but I don't want to splice anything. Thx.

Posted by: spy00005 Oct 27, 2011 - 4:39 PM

i think culpable04 is selling a 3 spoke GT4 steering wheel not sure of if it has airbags or splicing or anything though, maybe you could PM him.

Posted by: xrav22 Oct 27, 2011 - 9:17 PM

Can anyone confirm that a 98 or 99 will have the same connectors even though the wheel looks a little cheaper than 7th gen 3 spoke?
For my 97 that is. I am sure to find one at some junk yard here in socal.

Posted by: IllIllIll Apr 14, 2012 - 2:59 PM

Thanks for posting all this information guys. This is the information I was looking for when I searched for steering wheel swaps.
I have one question that others probably have also.

Is there any other steering wheels & airbags that will work in the Celica?

So far the MR2 / Rav 4 / 7th gen Celica 3 spoke type steering wheel works. All these wheels look pretty much the same. I would bet that the TRD / Supra / Lexus / Altezza wheel would works as well since it looks to be about the same as the others.

What about other steering wheel airbag combos? I'm looking for a more modern sporty looking wheel wheel with audio controls on the wheel. Bluetooth controls would be awesome too.

Posted by: richee3 Apr 14, 2012 - 3:26 PM

If you have a Pioneer head unit, I know they sell a cable to integrate your steering wheel controls with the radio. How much extra wiring would go into that for a Celica, I'm not sure. I think some Rav4's have a 3 post wheel with audio controls. Or, if you really want, I'd bet you could pick up a 7th gen steering wheel from an auto. They have the upshift/downshift buttons. I'd bet you could repin those so their function becomes volume up and down and seek/track buttons.

Posted by: IllIllIll May 3, 2012 - 4:08 PM

I was thinking the same thing about the 7th Gen Celica wheel, since I want one anyway. I'm going to look in to this more. If I succeed I'll post it on here.

Posted by: fil May 31, 2012 - 9:57 PM

can i install the whole steerin column with the steering wheel like batmans pic? will it fit ?

Posted by: WhipCreamCelica Jun 13, 2012 - 12:24 PM

do the 5th gen aftermarket steering wheel hubs fit our 6gcs?

Posted by: michlowrider Jul 8, 2012 - 2:13 AM

Just history now . Since today I have this one genuine 7th gen. Celica/91-04 MR2 st. wheel.


Malpaso and the others who have followed on this topic, This swap was next on my list, I came across your string and pictures, totally awesome! Just a huge "Thank you" for posting all that you have!

Posted by: sr666 Nov 10, 2012 - 7:02 PM

As above a massive thank you to Malpaso for popping this up and everyone else's input is appreciated

I've only got one small issue is that on the UK spec GT (early 95) I've not got the yellow spiral connector but my horn doesn't work. is it just a case of finding the black wire and extending it then attaching to the gen 7 wheel?

Many thanks although it does look much better now

Posted by: Nihil Nov 11, 2012 - 4:10 AM

Got any picture of how it was connected to your previous wheel? Surely there isn't some rocket science behind the horn connector, can't be anything more than a single wire that makes a negative contact when pressed

Posted by: sr666 Nov 12, 2012 - 7:10 AM

You'd think it'd be simple but in the ones shown there there's the yellow spiral adaptor on mine there isn't one. I couldn't see a black wire else it'd be simply just a case of extending the wire back to the bolt (not the centre spline) which would attach the wheel to so when the horn is pressed the circuit s complete surely?

Posted by: 95CelicaST Nov 12, 2012 - 9:18 AM

The harness that goes from the clock spring to your cruise control also handles the horn. There would have been a black wire that was riveted to the internal spring structure of the stock wheel. You need to cut that wire off of the stock wheel and put an end on it that will allow you to bolt it to one of the four nuts on the airbag explosive.

Posted by: sr666 Nov 12, 2012 - 11:35 AM

That's fine but I've not got cruise I'm in a Euro model lol. Cheers I'll have another look when I remove the wheel again

Thanks

Posted by: 95CelicaST Nov 12, 2012 - 12:04 PM

At the very least there should be (or should have been) a black ground wire attached to the old steering wheel. You just need to find where it went, and hook it to the back of the 3-spoke wheel's explosive.

Posted by: sr666 Nov 12, 2012 - 12:10 PM

Perfect cheers I'll have another looksie.

Thanks for the replies

Posted by: Syaoran Jun 26, 2013 - 1:42 PM

Back from the dead:

You'd think that after so many years of posting you'd see the actual size of the torx bit mentioned by someone. XD

Anyone know what the torx size is for the 2 bolts?

Posted by: richee3 Jun 26, 2013 - 3:34 PM

T27 if I recall correctly.

Posted by: Syaoran Jun 26, 2013 - 9:27 PM

Thanks I'll check it out when I get my wheel.

Posted by: richee3 Jun 26, 2013 - 9:45 PM

They're either T27's or T30's. I'm leaning towards T27's. Which steering wheel are you going with?

Posted by: Syaoran Jun 27, 2013 - 1:44 AM

Nothing expensive. Bought a replica from a local shop. Waiting for it to arrive to pick it up. I think it's an NRG replica not sure.

Posted by: saleenvic Jan 21, 2014 - 6:34 PM

Hey whats up everyone,, got a quick question, I am in the middle of this swap,, got the cruise control squared away so I'm just left with the airbag connection. For those of you who have done this swap with this subharness,,,does it really make a difference, meaning no srs airbag light on? I don't mind splicing wires n what not but if i know that this subharness will not give me any code issues off the bat then I'd feel more comfortable about shelling out $40 bucks,, (shipping is pricey) Any input at all greatly appreciated, thanks again for all you who have contributed to this topic.

Posted by: njccmd2002 Jan 21, 2014 - 10:35 PM

ok it depends on what u want. you can get this adapter, you can splice the harness or you can buy the clock ring.

the clock ring part n0 84306-12070 it came in various cars and can be had for cheap en ebay and yards. ravs, camrys, some lexus.

I am going to get the appropriate part because just in case I ever sell the car, but mostly ill be more content.

Posted by: saleenvic Jan 22, 2014 - 11:59 AM

Thanks for the reply back. I was reading that those that did this swap were getting the SRS airbag light on right, and were having to reset the airbag ECU to get the code to clear. I haven't connected the airbag yet,, but whether I go with splicing the wires or the harness adapter, if i get the airbag light on I can just remove the code with a OBD II scanner correct, to eliminate it,,, or do either way I need to reset the airbag ECU no matter what route I choose?

Just calculating my next step lol.

Posted by: njccmd2002 Jan 22, 2014 - 12:21 PM

ok, when i did mine, never got the airbag light on. and I spliced mine,

it is when i did my swap, that i ran the car with no airbag, that i got the code.

so maybe people hooked the batteries while they car the car with no bag..

Posted by: Nihil Jan 23, 2014 - 8:46 AM

I also spliced the wires and never got any airbag issue... SRS light comes on with the key turned, stays on for about 5 s, and goes off... just as it did on the 4-spoke wheel.

Using this harness might be a good idea if you feel that you will someday switch back to your stock wheel.

Posted by: saleenvic Jan 23, 2014 - 12:02 PM

I appreciate the feedback guys, thanks.

Posted by: ILoveMySilly97 Apr 7, 2014 - 7:58 PM

Got mine in thanks to this post and others for helping me out.

Posted by: ILoveMySilly97 Apr 13, 2014 - 6:22 PM

I'm a visual guy so this MR2 steeringwheel swap would've been MUCH better help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nndrnsq0DvU

Posted by: richee3 Jul 22, 2014 - 6:39 PM

Today I prepped my 7th gen Celica wheel for install in a 4 post wheel equipped wheel car. I didn't want to do any cutting and splicing so I depinned the 7gc clockspring plug and repinned it for a 6gc plug.

Here's the difference, for anyone interested:






So I depinned the plug, and had to cut off the old pins and solder in some of the bigger donor pins. I was trying to avoid this, but it's not difficult. Three wires and I was finished, but it would only be one wire for anyone who doesn't have the E shift buttons.




After that was finished, I put all of the new plugs into their homes. The two wires on the far left are for the E-shift buttons so you guys can ignore them. They'll be used in a different project.



Now that this is done, I will be able to use an IS300 clockspring to get the signal out of the steering wheel and into the steering column. Of course, the plugs in the steering column won't plug into the IS300 clockspring, but I grabbed some plugs and pigtails at the junkyard a few days ago so I can repin those and make the IS300 clockspring and 7th gen steering wheel all plug and play for a Toyota equipped with a 4 spoke steering wheel. Since my Celica came stock with the 3 post wheel, none of that was necessary, but I have a new project coming up...

Posted by: enderswift Jul 22, 2014 - 7:01 PM

New project you say

Posted by: NgoFcukinWay Jul 23, 2014 - 10:01 AM

That he does. Can't wait till he gets his hands on it at the end of the month.

Posted by: a2daj1 Jul 25, 2014 - 1:34 PM

Daniel as always u never fail to amaze me with your skeels thanks so much homeboy

Posted by: MGCustoms325 Nov 29, 2018 - 5:45 AM

Just a quick snap of what I'm currently working on. Excuse the mess...

https://ibb.co/s6mLqbL

Posted by: XxDarkLightning May 7, 2019 - 10:55 AM

Did you ever get this swap functioning. I am interested in getting media controls into the my Celica.