i've always been an admirer of this gen celica and toyotas in general. i have a 91 turbo mr2 and after selling my 93 alltrac i thought another daily would be nice. i dont really know much about the 5s motor. but after some research and about a half year of looking for a 6gc i finally found one.so last friday and made the couple hundred mile trip from houston to austin and back to bring it home. its a black 94 GT hatchback. the car had been in storage for 2 years but after a battery change and a fresh tank of gas it started right up and made it all the way home without a hickup. My primary purpose for the celica is to have a comfortable, sporty looking and reliable car i enjoy driving. thus far i'm not dissapointd its smoother and quieter than any of my previous vehicles, plus more fuel efficent and after the tune up i can determine nothing wrong with the motor.
i've talkd to many on the forums while searching for my car and options for it, and am glad to have found a place where so many enthusiasts are willing to offer their advice and share their knowledge.like many others here i wanted to start cataloging my progress. both to se how far my car has come and to try and offer something back to the community
so thanks to everyone who has helped me out. feel free to comment or offer suggestions and pics and writeups of my progress will be coming soon
peace
-jec
aww.. i wish i had your two previous cars. why'd u sell them? but, sounds like a good pick up for ur celi though. pics!
Good logic .Do u have any plans for the car?ie:rims,exhaust,spark plugs or maybe just an awd conversion? ...welcome to 6gc!Feel free to PM me with any questions.
post pics of your car!
7th gen shorty shifter, do it
where abouts in austin you located? (austin is just a short drive for me)
My latest addition.sorry about the night pics will get some in the daytime later
got my gt4 front in and put on. next i wanna start sanding the whole car and getting ready for a new paint job.
pics comming soon
we have a tx meet going on in oct. you should join us!
Was gunna whore that, but got beat to it. Go to the TX meet!
Should do it!
been a long time since i've posted in this thread, Moved to brenham and havent done much driving or work on the car other than maintnance but have made some progress since last year.
same color or different?
just a cell phone pic but paint came out good.
started putting it back together so hopefully by tomarrow night i'll have some pics of it back on the road
how much did the paint cost u and where'd u get it from?
a friend of mine has his own shop and did it for me. he's in the alvin area.
pm if your intrested and i'l pass it along
in the meantime check out some of the pics.
-jec
for some reason that rear spoiler seems to be too high for me? or maybe its the 15" wheels that make it look tall...i dunno....im confused
Brenham huh? I live like 5 mind away from somerville which is another 30 miles away from brenham. We should meet up one day! Celica is looking gorgeous!
Sounds good just shoot me a pm when your back and well set up a meet
just got in my 7th gen short shifter in the mail today. hope to have sometime tonight after work to swap that in
Welcome! cars coming along good and quick man. hope you enjoy it. I know i've enjoyed mine for the last 6 years i bought another one as a daily lol. Been up there to see g/f's mom. Was planning on it again this summer. But i believe were going to Virgina this summer lol.
oh snap i didnt know there was a another celica with a gt4 front end in houston, i tought i was the only one lol. It looks real nice man!
yeah , i've actually seen a lot of your posts with you and your brothers cars. maybe i can pick your brain a bit i'm looking to swap a 3s in aug when i've got a block of free time.
thanks for the comments
you had a 93 All-Trac and got rid of it? where you sick that day?
lol, i got an offer for it and i thought it was worth less than they offered.
shifter swapped in , for 12 bucks on ebay this if by far the best bang for the buck mod i've done
pic of the new shifter
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/718/img20120201175352.jpg/
and another ebay pickup
autodimming mirror. just figured out were everything goes on the wiring harness. so ths weekend i'm gonna run some wires to get all that sorted
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/593/img20120201175557.jpg/
sorry for the crapy phone pics
can u post an add to that mirror im interested in one of those
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gentex-261-Auto-dim-Mirror-Compass-and-Temp-/250984072790?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item3a6fd10656#ht_500wt_1221
same model but found mine for 50bucks w/ temp sensor.
btw if you get this model i already tested this with a 12 volt powr supply on my bench
pink - +12v (autodim and compass/temp power)
black - ground
light green/black - temp sensor
black/white - temp sensor
OPTIONAL
-----------
yellow - battery(if you get the version with map light)
dark green - side mirror defog (need to pull heater strip out of a chevy suburban/ gm truck)
dark green - side mirror defog
gray - reverse light (will turn off autodim when you backup)
also if you dont have the mounting tab use the metal napa one not the plastic ones from autozone/oriley(they will not hold the mirror secure and it'll vibrate as you drive)
napa part # 730-2023
good luck
-jec
just recieved another package today
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/37/img20120206185000.jpg/
Pretty.
any updates? you get that opti-coat put on? paint looks great though, cant wait to see how she looks when coated, will have much more free time now that you dont need to wax your paint or really try hard to keep her clean!. think yours will be the first opti-coated 6gc ive seen!.
well its been a while since i've really been able to work on the cars. But recently i've been really motivated to work on the celica again so i thought i'de share. also mods could prolly move this thread to the project section if anyone sees this. As always, sorry for the terrible phone pics
had this sitting in my shed for a while now so i descided to get it on the trailer and into the shop. a couple of months ago
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/4ym4.jpg/
but then got sent to chicago for work so it sat. untill this evening when i got back
my dinky hoist cant lift this with the tranny attached and my other bay has the rav in it so i cant use the beam and chain puller. If the tractor fit in the shop i could lift it and drive the trailer out but for now it looks like i'm gonna have to work in the trailer
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/hkvf.jpg/
petty happy i got to spend a couple of hours on it,(even though most was tring to figure out how to get it on the engine stand) but i did get the intercooler heatshields. and exhaust side brackets,manifold and turbo off the motor
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/208/k2xj.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/9/n6bm.jpg/
no way it'll be ready to drop in before the meet this weekend. but i am excited i got the time off and can spend thanksgiving with the family. and catch the tx celica meeton sat
Another 3s celica in TX! What transmission are you going to use?
got a couple of options with the celica/mr2 parts laying around. but simplest will prolly be the s54 since its that only complete tranny/axle set i have plus its already in the car.
also i'll prolly have to pm you and ask some questions as i get closer to being ready to drop this in.
chugged away at it a little more this evening. got the intake manifold, fuelrail, valve cover hoses and wiring moved out of the way, and tried to label everything i could. The motor looks pretty good no signs of oil leaks and under the valve cover still looks silver.
when you guys clean your intake manifold do you just call a machine shop and ask them to drop it in a parts washer? i've never done it before and have several parts i wanna clean up and paint.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/eqyt.jpg/
All depends on what your plans are. If you're going to drop it in stock then you can probably get away with cleaning it yourself with a good degreaser. But if you plan to build it and separate all the pieces then the machine shop will clean them anyways.
I've been snooping the forums and online for parts, I came back from the meet kinda late last night, swung by the shop and found these.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/196/kk44.jpg/
still on the fence about breaking apart the motor since my power goals are pretty modest.
also question for those guys who have gone awd, gt4 brakes or done a 5x114.3 rear conversion. My searching seems to indicate the rear hubs on the gt use the same wheel bearings as the gt4. Does the rear hub on the gt also accept the rear gt4 spindle? i was gonna press one out to compare but thought i would ask incase someone knew already.
BTW. even though they live 88miles away(i clocked it on the way home) and they made me feel old lol, It was nice to meet malhar and edgar last night.
took em to the machine shop to get hot tanked, then brought em home and soda blasted, primed and painted
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/idaa.jpg/
Looks really nice man! Keep up the good progress!
got to put in a couple hours tonight before i had to pack up since i head out in the morning . got the wiring harness off and all the brackets holding the tranny to the block. all i have thats left is to lift it up so i can remove the transmission and get the motor on my stand.
also my radiator sprung a leak from a hairline crack in the plasic top. so it looks like i'm ordering a new rad. advanced has a replacement like oem with plastic tops for 80 bucks or an all aluminum one for 100. the plastic has served well for the last 160k miles and 20 years so i dont doubt its sufficent to do the job but i'm inclined to go the all aluminum for 20 bucks more just to have it. anyone have any experience on these units?
well back in town for jury duty tomarrow morning. It did give me a few hours after church to plug away on the motor though. finally got it off the trailer (with my tractor) and removed the tranny, clutch and pressure plate.I also took off the ac compressor, ps pump , alt, and the brackets holding them all on. I have a couple of bolts on the flywheel that are just about rounded off. i was gonna weld a nut onto the head of the bolt and try that, unless anyone has any better ideas
aside from that i started putting some if the other stuff back together
a little cleaning , paint and some steel braided lines for the turbo
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/194/r2z0.jpg/
cleaned out the TB real good with carb cleaner then got that misc sensors and brackets back on the intake manifold.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/34/rtct.jpg/
a quick pic of some of the stuff ready to go once the motor is ready
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/e7u3.jpg/
i wanted to get a pic of the of my tractor engine hoist putting the motor on the stand, but my phone died as i was snapping the above pics.also My radiator arrived too so i'm gonna need to get that in once i have all these parts moved up far enough to fit my car in the shop.
also just a random pic of the car from earlier
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/vyvg.jpg/
Uploaded with http://imageshack.us
had to go back up to the shop to get a bolt to match threads for my stand and got the pic of my redneck engine hoist.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/8uh2.jpg/
enjoy
Great work and nice choice of cars!
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/690/gic2.jpg/
well it took a lot of work by hand to get to this point . i'm gonna find a place with a buffing wheel rather than spend more time one it.
on a more productive note. i ordered new bearings for the timing belt tensioners through amazon to help with 6gc. I usually use ebay if it helps the site i'll make the switch.
also i got a real camera to take pics with so hopefully that'll make the images less blurry
had a little time this evening so plugged away at the motor a bit more. had to lose the flywheel before i could get it on the stand , but also got the new cam gears on and crank, lower cover, mount, timing belt, idlers, waterpump, coolant hardlines and most of the hoses off. aside from that just a lot of cleaning with the wire brush and hopefully soon i'll be getting a bit of paint on there.
https://imageshack.com/i/jjjucyj
quick question is this blocked off port actually something. or just another potential oil drain?
https://imageshack.com/i/mvn4w8j
got the W2A heat exchanger and pump today from bsamps. Ben you did such a great job packing the stuff up i almost had to go front mount cause i couldent get it out of the box, thanks for taking the time bud
https://imageshack.com/i/0uwu7jj
also got a little paint on the block and everything off that need to be off before i set it back on the engine stand. i only have a few days before i leave for work again so i've been tring to spend at least an hour on it in the evenings, consequently my shop is a mess.
https://imageshack.com/i/0hb7bjj
also the first of the parts i ordered via amazon link from 6gc, it's cool to be able to support the site and get to feed my habit at the same time haha. i may have to get a little point and shoot from amazon too i've been using my wife's cannon and its too big to run around with i'm am afraid i'm gonna break the lens or something.
https://imageshack.com/i/0sgt73j
two very big pieces to my puzzle finally arrived today. With this (and some free time) i should be ready to start throwing it all back together.
https://imageshack.com/i/15ratfj
I've been tring to take a lot of pictures to put together some how to's for future refrence. but for now just a couple of pics of where i'm at tring to get measurements and fitment stuff sorted.
https://imageshack.com/i/109fjzj
https://imageshack.com/i/mzunkzj
https://imageshack.com/i/jtx3nmj
more amazon parts and more fitting and putting it back together this evening. felt like pretty good progress for an hours work.
https://imageshack.com/i/f5eo28j
same old story just putting in a few minutes whenever i can spare em,
https://imageshack.com/i/mr4ptdj
https://imageshack.com/i/f38x49j
https://imageshack.com/i/npo3gzj
https://imageshack.com/i/mzuctoj
i feel like i'm not making too much progress atm, hopefully i'll have some more exciting pics to post for next time
with all the delays with work and life i'm not gonna be ready as quickly as i thought so i'm gonna change up my plans a little, now i'll be tearing down a block to build
I love the work that you are doing on the engine. Its going to look lovely when you get installed in the car.
It looks practiacally brand new.
a couple more things
rod and main bearings came in friday and clutchmasters package was at the shop when i got in this morning
been out for work most of the summer but a friend is letting me use his hangar and lift to store my car so i have been carving out a couple of hours on monday evenings to do a little work on this project. here are some pics and a review of the last couple of months of work.
block assembeled, had it balanced, acl bearings, wiesco pistons, eagle rods and arp main and rod bolts
Toda flywheel and arp bolts
Head assembeled, stock cams, ferrea valves and enge springs
arp head studs and oem headgasket
Head, oil pump installed
oil baffels in
water injection nozzels
distribution block
holes drilled in intake manifold
assembly
installed on head
went with the drift motion(left) oil feed and drain fitting over the kinugawa one
fitting installed
turbo, vave cover and misc lines installed and test fitting heatshield to clear the lines
reinstalled it several times but not very happy with the way the timing belt looked but i think it may have something to do with the aftermarket cam gears. i guess i'll know for sure once i start it. anyone else have similar experiences when using the ats machined gears?
berk dp
plugs and wires
Harness getting a little repair and rewiring
all back together
and plugged in with the intercooler and some of the remaining bits that needed fitting
a couple of pics of the oil feed and return lines
finally ready to get the old motor out and get the new one in
thats about where it sits now. i'mm plugging everything in and bolting it back to get it running. still only have mondays from 3-5ish to work on it though. hopfully that will be enough time to get it going before winter.
Congrats man! That's motiving me, can I come see if when u work on it next?
Oh my god you've been holding out on us! Such a clean build!
I really like how you handled the water injection. Aren't you concerned the nozzles are too close to the chambers? And how are you controlling the flowrate?
Would you be interested in selling the 5s? I spun a rod bearing at the beginning of the month, I need another 5s to toss into mine.
Everything on the new motor looks great! Excellent progress.
thanks bud, looking forward to getting it back on the road
No chance to get down to houston today but i did get an hour to work on some of the parts i got from bsamps4 a few months back. Gonna use the relays and box from the IC pump to run the pump, water injection, and the foglights. I have plenty of left over relays and wire from other toyota harnesses so it should look like a factory solution.
I got a bench supply on the pump but without a diagram of the factory subharness i cant seem to figure out why toyota used a 5 pin connector. prolly powering other devices that come on with the pump. if anyone knows or has the diagram let me know
If you have questions, post em up.
wow thanks bud. that's just what i needed, that'll make the rest a snap.
btw is this saved somewhere in the stickies in a little higher res?
PM me your email address, I'll send you the EDW.
quick question.
anyone have the size on the belts for the 3rd gen 3sgte or do the accessory belts from the 5s or 2nd gen 3sgte run the same size as the 3rd gen? I'm about 10 miles from the auto parts place and dont wanna make multiple trips to get the size right.
couple of additional pics. not new stuff but finally close enough to pull em out of boxes and get em ready to take down to the hanger for install.
making a bracket to hold the water injection distribution block. i measured it up and tacked a few pieces together that were laying around the hangar.
and brought it out this afternoon and got it all welded up, holes drilled and threw some paint on it.
You will enjoy this. Make sure you ground it at the chassis under the car
Ground the cutout at the chassis. Otherwise it uses the exhaust as a path to the engine ground wires, turning any aluminum on the way into white powder. In my case the aluminum exhaust gaskets I bought were slowly disintegrating.
And the meth injection looks good. I wasn't knocking your design, just curious because I wondered about even distribution to each cyl too. It's just a trade off between equal delivery and heat absorption, really no one ideal setup.
Looking forward to more updates!
Thanks again to dustin, used the files you sent me to get the wiring sorted. I had just enough spare toyota relays and pins to make up this relay box.
I used the fuses for the systems that the relay box holds
I am using a spdt relays to run my meth injection and spraybar
the first spst relay to run the IC pump continously and the second will be used for the Fogs
and they are the same relays from main fuse box so if one goes out on the road i can quickly swap one from one of these non critical systems to get me home
Powered by Invision Power Board (http://www.invisionboard.com)
© Invision Power Services (http://www.invisionpower.com)