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post Jan 2, 2007 - 7:33 AM
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post Jan 4, 2007 - 3:30 PM
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post Jan 4, 2007 - 8:13 PM
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Superstrut can be expensive to maintain but a celica with superstrut in combo with a diff handles so much better than one without that its worth it if you can afford it, heck its worth it even if you cant afford it.

If you are wanting to change to coilovers, then take a look at importing a set of used TRD coilovers from the japanese yahoo auctions, sets come up quite often but you'll need to use a third party to import them for you as you cant buy from japan yahoo if your outside japan.
post Nov 2, 2007 - 7:55 AM
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Hey guys hows it going does anyone have a problem with loweer arm? mine lossen alot even with thread lock does anyone have any info for this problem or has the same problem.


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post Nov 2, 2007 - 8:57 AM
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anyone have part numbers for the various pieces smile.gif i know i'll need to replace most if not all the joints on mine frown.gif
post Dec 5, 2007 - 7:43 AM
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Thats normal Mcpherson Struts. Not SS struts.


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post Dec 23, 2007 - 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(G3D45 @ Jan 1, 2007 - 3:56 PM) [snapback]514411[/snapback]

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As long as i know and remeber (if i remeber corectly) i was reading somthere what SS in EU on GT's was availible as Special option witch you could chose when buying a celica from Dealers.

Rather interesting. I don't know any similar example in nowadays cars. Such important thing like suspension would be optional rolleyes.gif


Superstrut is a great suspension type, in paper that is. But it never actually worked as well as it was planned. Toyotas world rally team actually used it in 2(!) rallies, and then went back to original Macpherson.
And the great cheat-Turbo in ST205 GT4 laugh.gif laugh.gif


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post Dec 27, 2007 - 12:34 AM
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The superstrut suspension feels heaps better than the macphearson on the celica. I know because I have owned both and driven both.

Once you replace the figure8s etc, it will last you quite a while.
post Jan 17, 2008 - 3:03 PM
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Superstrut with all the part numbers

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Macpherson with all the part numbers


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post Jul 10, 2008 - 5:56 AM
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QUOTE (Penkka @ Jan 17, 2008 - 3:03 PM) *

Superstrut with all the part numbers


Macpherson with all the part numbers


Sorry for hijacking this post.

But

Can anyone tell me if the breaks from a GT4 st205 will fit on the Macpherson setup above,
post Jul 11, 2008 - 5:54 PM
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QUOTE (Penkka @ Dec 23, 2007 - 1:36 PM) *
QUOTE (G3D45 @ Jan 1, 2007 - 3:56 PM) *

QUOTE (doGGy @ Jan 1, 2007 - 7:43 PM) *

As long as i know and remeber (if i remeber corectly) i was reading somthere what SS in EU on GT's was availible as Special option witch you could chose when buying a celica from Dealers.

Rather interesting. I don't know any similar example in nowadays cars. Such important thing like suspension would be optional rolleyes.gif


Superstrut is a great suspension type, in paper that is. But it never actually worked as well as it was planned. Toyotas world rally team actually used it in 2(!) rallies, and then went back to original Macpherson.
And the great cheat-Turbo in ST205 GT4 laugh.gif laugh.gif


yes because of reliability issues, rally situation being very different to a road type, that fact they tried to use it says enough, theres nothign to suggest it was inferior, just wasnt suited to rally situation which is pretty extreme.

as for number of cars using similar setups to superstrut you'd be amazed, its classed as a multilink suspension setup, and although many dont share the exact same design, the goal and result is the same, and you will continue to see more, under various different names, its really all the same thing, toyota were about 10 years ahead of the game

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post Jul 13, 2008 - 3:11 PM
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QUOTE (lmac34 @ Jul 10, 2008 - 11:56 AM) *
Sorry for hijacking this post.

But

Can anyone tell me if the breaks from a GT4 st205 will fit on the Macpherson setup above,

Not without modification. The way the caliper bolts up to the spindle is slightly different as well as the offsets of the rotor brackets.


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post Jul 26, 2008 - 12:17 PM
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The first thing I noticed going from SS-I to SS-III is that I could gas it around corners in the wet aggressively without sliding, Impossible in the One.

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post Jul 29, 2008 - 4:16 AM
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post Jul 29, 2008 - 9:10 AM
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I bought from japan


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post Jul 29, 2008 - 9:42 AM
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post Jul 29, 2008 - 5:47 PM
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most of you were using inserts yes? and not the super special f street?

i wasnt keen to fnck around with inserts, spend the $$ and buy the top of the range, you get what u pay for
a few of my mates are using kyb in their gtfours and they cant rate them highly enough.

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post Jul 29, 2008 - 6:54 PM
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without going and reading all the replies, my car with the previous owner removed the useless superstrut set up, go onto any gt4 forum and thats all you'll hear of the members there crying about (its failure and the cost of repair with genuine parts and look at the price of coilovers compared to any other car), its a curse and i'm glad its been removed on mines and fitted with a ST202 set up (Macpherson) including subframe, the initial plan was for set it up with a ST185 set up but the ST202 is supposively very similar with less fabrication. Anyone who i know who has done this has smiled from ear to ear with better handling and less failures and i think that TTE is agreeing with me or i'm agreeing with them more like as the TTE ST205 WRC had the similar Macpherson setup.


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post Jul 29, 2008 - 10:08 PM
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i duno about it being better handling man, compared to a shagged ss setup i would agree, but superstrut in its full working potential is a better strut type. Multi links in general are superior, just the extra cost and a bit of weight and complexity sometimes doesnt get outweighed by the benefits.

202/204 and 205 use all the same suspension attachment points so its simply a matter of swapping it over. That was a stipulation toyota put on the engineers when they designed the 6th gen.

what did you do for your stoppers? custom brackets for the calipers? did you sacrifice 10-15mm of rotor diameter like most do when they do a 185/202/204 to 205 brake conversion?

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post Jul 29, 2008 - 10:33 PM
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QUOTE (Cuts_the_Pilot @ Jul 30, 2008 - 6:47 AM) *
most of you were using inserts yes? and not the super special f street?

i wasnt keen to fnck around with inserts, spend the $$ and buy the top of the range, you get what u pay for
a few of my mates are using kyb in their gtfours and they cant rate them highly enough.



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