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post Oct 18, 2018 - 8:55 PM
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So I just purchased a 94 celica st that was swapped with the 3sgte from an st205 gt4. At the moment it's running a manual trans from a 98 4cyl Camry. I know these don't hold up to power very well but I'm blown away by the fact that they hold up at all. I guess this transmission has been holding up for 4 years which I think is crazy. So I'm just wondering what other options I have for inexpensive tranny setups that don't require too much modification. Also, if I were to get another Camry transmission, what model years should I look for? (As I said the current tranny is from a 98). The current one is finally starting to let go (it appears to be having issues with the 4th to 5th synchro as it grinds going into 5th sometimes and pops out of 5th as well.

Any info would be much appreciated. This is my first post on here and I must say this page looks very well put together! Thanks in advance smile.gif
post Oct 18, 2018 - 9:26 PM
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The S series is more than strong enough for the power you'd want to go through a FWD layout, if driven properly. Wiki has a good page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_S_transmission

As far as something stronger there's the E series, and in particular the E153 used in the MR2 Turbo and V6 Camry/Solara, but it's more of an ordeal to get working in the Celica. There's a reason why many stay with the S series, because it's cheap and easy. Pretty much any manual Camry/Solara or Celica with a 5S will have a S series you can use.

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post Oct 18, 2018 - 9:34 PM
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QUOTE (Wannabesupra @ Oct 18, 2018 - 8:55 PM) *
So I just purchased a 94 celica st that was swapped with the 3sgte from an st205 gt4. At the moment it's running a manual trans from a 98 4cyl Camry. I know these don't hold up to power very well but I'm blown away by the fact that they hold up at all. I guess this transmission has been holding up for 4 years which I think is crazy. So I'm just wondering what other options I have for inexpensive tranny setups that don't require too much modification. Also, if I were to get another Camry transmission, what model years should I look for? (As I said the current tranny is from a 98). The current one is finally starting to let go (it appears to be having issues with the 4th to 5th synchro as it grinds going into 5th sometimes and pops out of 5th as well.

Any info would be much appreciated. This is my first post on here and I must say this page looks very well put together! Thanks in advance smile.gif


I think Manny put down somewhere around 450hp or so on his S54. I'm guessing that'll equate to about 375-400 ft-lb of torque with the proper clutch. I'm hoping mine will hold as much with the Southbend Stage 2 Endurance clutch I just bought.

Do you know what clutch is currently in the car and how much power it's making?

Surprisingly enough, synchros AND gears are still available from the dealership for relatively cheap.

You can look into doing the E153 swap out of a V6 Camry/Solara or MR2. There's a few threads on it through the forums if you search.


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post Oct 18, 2018 - 11:13 PM
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That is very impressive! I would of never expected them to hold that power. I've been told it's running an exedy stage 3 pressure plate mated to the 3sgte and a stage 2 5 puck disk meant for the Camry transmission. If I do get another Camry trans as a spare, what years of Camry should I be looking for? That wiki Link is very helpful but I'm just not sure what model years those transmission designations login up to. Thanks!
post Oct 19, 2018 - 3:19 PM
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Any with a 5S-FE, so '90-99 Celica GT and '92-01 Camry/Solara. The Camry/Solara uses the S51, the 5th gen Celica GT uses the S53, and the 6th gen Celica GT uses the S54. The main thing with how well a gearbox holds power is mostly in the operator, if you don't abuse it and maintain it a S series should last you just fine. Hell there's been gorillas trash a T-56 in stock, or mostly stock, F-bodies and Corvettes even though it's rated well above their torque output at 450 ft lbs. Then on the flip side the WRX 5-speed is known for being made of glass, but there are examples with plenty of miles on the original transmission because the owner wasn't a gorilla. So your mileage may vary applies here to an extent.


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