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post Nov 12, 2019 - 2:15 PM
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there wont be a platform switch or forced induction to the BEAMS until I have my own garage in the area I reside. Traveling 2hrs to where the car is garaged, every weekend, is not something Im interested in doing right now. I have so much free time in the weekday afternoons and that could be spent on that but, alas, no garage here yet. Maybe next year I will settle on a house I like.

If the sponsorship deal I am in for 2020 really takes off in the following years, I would in a god damn heartbeat go drop some dime on a Monkey Wrench Racing 2GR. I would go 2GR over 1MZ just for the aftermarket availability for that engine (from my light research)
I could even spend the same amount on the BEAMS and build it how I want it. Who knows. These are post localgarage/sponsorship decisions lol

I havent invested too much time into this motor. Im going to do a new custom exhaust manifold and a LINK ecu this winter and continue driving it as is and see how things progress next year.

This post has been edited by Tigawoods: Nov 12, 2019 - 4:37 PM


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post Nov 14, 2019 - 12:24 AM
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what i find astonishing is the 3sge motor or the Celica SS-III in any fwd 6gc has never had any time to ever shine in the motosports world. The SS-III was the only fwd car that toyota released that was able to complete with honda. the AE111 and ZZT231 had good chassis but motors that lacked power.

Ive never seen a high powered N/A build SW20 or ST202. the guy from beams onwers group built that 250ish hp crank 3sge beams motor but was in a st184 chassis and was a show car.

the guy on facebook from Russia I think, is building a track focused n/a build beams motor. but hes like 20 years to late.


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post Nov 14, 2019 - 9:47 AM
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Nov 14, 2019 - 12:24 AM) *
what i find astonishing is the 3sge motor or the Celica SS-III in any fwd 6gc has never had any time to ever shine in the motosports world. The SS-III was the only fwd car that toyota released that was able to complete with honda. the AE111 and ZZT231 had good chassis but motors that lacked power.

Ive never seen a high powered N/A build SW20 or ST202. the guy from beams onwers group built that 250ish hp crank 3sge beams motor but was in a st184 chassis and was a show car.

the guy on facebook from Russia I think, is building a track focused n/a build beams motor. but hes like 20 years to late.


there was the guy from the Beams owners group who deleted his ENTIRE thread because he was tired of hearing people complain about his build, but it was like 120 pages of supercharged rotex beams goodness. But he lowered the compression on the motor so it would take the boost and had full stand alone unit. He also was wayyy too meticulous on the construction, making his own cast pieces etc. Mandalay I think was his username. He had that in an MR2.



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post Nov 15, 2019 - 4:13 PM
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i said n/a motor! i know of the builds on beams forums yes supercharged and stroked 3sge beams redtop turbo set up. but thats all forced induction aka the easy route or just the mentality of "i can never have enough horsepower" and i see it as an unbalanced car for being a fwd platform.

there was a website i believe pheonix power that showed all forced induction set up celica and mr2 3sge beams(about 10 on that page all with japanese description of course but never showed once a n/a built motor. so even back then it was and till today has never been done before.


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post Nov 15, 2019 - 4:30 PM
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Glenn and Arkadiusz both build NA Red Tops. Glenn builds more black tops these days but Arkadiusz builds a lot of 3rd and 4th gen 3sge for cup cars in his country. Glenns products are pretty wildly used. Most NA builds will be so damn expensive when you can go turbo or sc and still retain a pretty decent linear power delivery.

The one thing im not a fan of when coming into the Red Top community was the secrecy and people not wanting to share any info (like Mandalay). He made it seem as if it was this big unattainable feat he accomplished and he would break the mold of his creation so nobody could follow in his footsteps. Maybe is he just shared details of his build maybe people wouldnt have complained as much rolleyes.gif


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post Nov 19, 2019 - 3:55 PM
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you can tune anything. with the right amount of money and time. you dont have money or time, well, you cant tune.

Its a difficult engine. not a lot of information. many people spent a lot of money, to maybe gain some back in the end by selling their products I guess. At any rate, there are easier engines to tune out there,


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