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Posted by: Harold_Fastwaker Oct 6, 2009 - 10:42 PM

So you want to be Dope Status now? Maybe your life goal is to make it on HellaFlush, well this is the offset numbers you need for that to happen.

First: You will need to run stretched tires for this to work and preferably a nicely lowered car.......... Or 4x4 your car and run it Donk status. I don't care, but you will have to choose one of those options.


FOR THE FRONT WHEELS ONLY **Your fronts should have been rolled from the factory. 9.0+ will probably need a bit of a roll to crush the plastic liner in a bit.
Width ---------- Offset (et)
6.0" ---------- et-5mm
6.5" ---------- et 0mm
7.0" ---------- et+10mm
7.5" ---------- et+15mm
8.0" ---------- et+22mm
8.5" ---------- et+27mm
9.0" ---------- et+33mm (you will be cutting it close with the strut. May need to start running negative camber at this point)
9.5" ---------- et+40mm (you will be cutting it close with the strut. Probably need to start running negative camber at this point)
10.0" ---------- et+45mm (At this point, you will need negative camber, a good fender pull and probably better off with a +35ish offset and going with wide fenders.)
10.5" ---------- et+50mm (At this point, you will need negative camber, a good fender pull and probably better off with a +35ish offset and going with wide fenders.)



FOR THE REAR WHEELS ONLY **You need to roll your fenders for all of these.
Width ---------- Offset (et)
6.0" ---------- et-20mm
6.5" ---------- et-15mm
7.0" ---------- et-8mm
7.5" ---------- et-2mm
8.0" ---------- et+5mm
8.5" ---------- et+10mm
9.0" ---------- et+18mm
9.5" ---------- et+23mm
10.0" ---------- et+30mm (Will start to cut it close with the strut. Negative camber may be needed. My best guess is you will be alright)
10.5" ---------- et+36mm (At this point, you will probably hit strut. Negative camber is needed. Probably would want to run a lower offset and just pull the crap out of your rear fender to make it tuck.)


As for tires, I highly suggest you run 45 series tires and I HIGHLY recommend Falken 512s. They handle stretching very well.


These numbers will make your wheel flush with the body. If you want to wheel to poke then run a lower offset then I have listed. This in turn means you need to run a smaller diameter tire and some negative camber.




Spacers:
For those of you who need a 25mm spacer or larger for your look. I suggest A-Dapt-It USA (http://adaptitusa.com/) or Motorsport Technologies (http://www.motorsport-tech.com/)
The A-Dapt-It's will be cheaper and will be lug centric to the wheel. Motorsport Tech can make you hubcentric to hubcentric adapters which are double the cost of A-Dapt-It's. Either choice is fine, I run lug centric and so do plenty of other people. Toyota still ships cars off the assembly line with lug centric wheels. Don't let the scare tactics of hubcentric or die mess with your head. With lug centric you just need to tighten your lugnuts in the standard star pattern starting from the top.






This thread was made separate due to not wanting to have an e-thug battle.

Posted by: 95CelicaST Oct 6, 2009 - 10:55 PM

Vote for sticky

Posted by: Harold_Fastwaker Oct 6, 2009 - 11:21 PM

Lets talk about Lug Centric Vs Hub Centric Wheels

The difference:
Lug centric wheels have the mounts drilled for conical seating lug nuts. When properly installed in a star pattern starting from the top and working your way around as you tighten them down you will center the wheel. (Note: if you just crank the top lug nut down then crank the others your wheel will not be centered and will have vibration issues.)

Hub centric wheels use a hub centric ring to maintain wheel centering. When the hub centric ring is properly sized for both the center bore of your hub and the center bore of your wheel then when mounted it will properly center. (This does not me just crank down the top lug and then the others. You still need to properly tighten them in the star pattern)


Q: Which is better. Well, having a hub centric ring is a definite plus. It will keep your wheels centered and is your best bet to combat wheel vibration. Granted this is if you have properly balanced wheels and that is not the crux of your problem.

Q: So does that mean if I use lug centric wheels my car will vibrate uncontrollably and cause me to crash on the highway into an exploding nuclear failure. No, it doesnt. What it means is that you must take greater care when properly installing your wheels. Start with the top lug nut and begin to tighten it, then skip one and begin to tighten that one, keep doing this and you will cover all 5. Now repeat this pattern over and over again until you have reached the spec torque rating.

Cool, now that I finally have a proper grasp of what the difference is I can ask a solid question.

Q: I want to buy aftermarket wheels but it doesn't say anything about coming with hub centric rings. Well, most wheels wont come with rings. This is because the manufacturer uses a larger center bore to allow the wheel to bolt to as many cars as possible. These wheels will for the most part have conical seating lug nuts. If you get out your handy ruler you can measure the center bore of your new wheels and order a hub centric ring if you so desire. Again, your car will not implode on itself just because you do not go and buy a plastic ring for your hub.

With that I must make this statement. Depending on what cheap wheel manufacturer you chose, will effect quality. Some of your cheap off the wall brands, much like the cheap ebay knock off adjustable coil sleeves are not made very well. This means your mounting holes may not be properly drilled and centered for 5x100 or whatever stud pattern you ordered. By just running lug centric lug nuts you will have vibration at higher speeds. You can remedy this buy purchasing hub rings, this will help to center them since the wheel was not drilled properly.


Q: I saw a picture of a car with stripped out studs and everyone keeps saying its because he wasn't running a hub centric ring. Yes, there are a couple pictures floating that people claim it happened because of no hub centric rings. Studs are stripped because they are over torqued or not installed properly. Remember, you car studs have a foot pound limit on what they are set to hold. When you crank that sucker down to 140 ftlbs you not only plan on warping your rotor but you can easily strip out your studs.

Now, if you for some reason install a set of wheels and they wobble like crazy all the way down the road. Get hub centric rings, because they obviously are not drilled properly. Last thing you want to do is completely ruin your studs, wheels and anything else that may slide across the ground when your wheels come off.



So what are the lessons to be learned with this:
1: Don't buy cheap ass ebay knock off wheels.
2: If the wheel is not drilled for conical lug nuts you need hub centric rings to center your wheel.
3: If in doubt, run a hub centric ring with conical lug nuts if you feel you can not properly install a lug centric wheel.
4: Properly tighten your wheels while they are OFF the ground. Do Not do the last few tightenings once the wheel is on the ground. When running a lug centric wheel you have now tightened it off center.


Adapters/Spacers

Spacers are made from 1mm all the way up to "how fast you want to destroy your bearings". By this I mean I have seen 8in spacers, which is a joke but was a cheap way to wide body a narrow horrid offset wheel.

So, spacers end up give you a few options as they become wider. Either use longer studs or with 20mm+ spacers you bolt the spacer to your hub then bolt your wheel to the spacer studs.

Adapters are used to change your stud pattern. 5x100 to 5x114 would be the most common change for celica owners. Most companies will not make an adapter smaller than 20mm with a stud change. This is for safety reasons, which means if you are changing stud patterns and have the wheel already you need to account what the offset is to begin with, then subtract the adapter width.

With adapters, some companies will make the adapter hub centric and then your wheel will mount lug centric. Others for a higher cost will make a 2 piece adapter which will be hub centric on both ends. Take a look at the wheels you plan on using and decide which version you need.


Example for using an adapter. We have +48 offset 5x114 wheel that is 17x8 that we want to use. By using the flush numbers given we know we need et+22 in the front and et+5 in the rear. So, 48-25mm (1inch) adapter = et+23. This is as close as we will get to this number. (Most adapter companies have set widths (20mm, 25mm, 30mm etc, if you can find custom to make exactly what offset you need even better.) For the rear we need a 43mm adapter. So we may have a choice of 40mm or 45mm. Best bet would be 40mm spacer.



Posted by: qatar11 Oct 7, 2009 - 8:12 AM

+1

Posted by: playr158 Oct 7, 2009 - 8:44 AM

info looks good, should help someone go VIP laugh.gif

Posted by: RoyO Oct 7, 2009 - 11:11 AM

QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Oct 7, 2009 - 5:55 AM) *
Vote for sticky

+1 !!

Posted by: Harold_Fastwaker Oct 7, 2009 - 12:05 PM

QUOTE (playr158 @ Oct 7, 2009 - 9:44 AM) *
info looks good, should help someone go VIP laugh.gif



Well I am waiting for someone else to come join my flushness ranks. Sunk wheels look like ass, even more so when they are 7in wide.

Posted by: 95CelicaST Oct 7, 2009 - 1:21 PM

Give me until spring and I'll be there. Got to save up for the coilovers so I can put them all on at once.

Posted by: 808celica Oct 7, 2009 - 1:35 PM

i ****en love your sig fastwaker laugh.gif wanna make me one??? great info thumbsup.gif i got 5mm spacers waiting biggrin.gif gotta use a die cutter to cut my fenders.

Posted by: freddy121389 Oct 7, 2009 - 1:48 PM

I vote sticky as well

Posted by: Sinyk Oct 7, 2009 - 2:19 PM

Good info, but I'm just not a fan of the stretched tire look.

Posted by: Harold_Fastwaker Oct 7, 2009 - 3:11 PM

QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Oct 7, 2009 - 2:21 PM) *
Give me until spring and I'll be there. Got to save up for the coilovers so I can put them all on at once.



I know you will be next. I need to do a reshoot of my car once I have the megans installed.




QUOTE (Sinyk @ Oct 7, 2009 - 3:19 PM) *
Good info, but I'm just not a fan of the stretched tire look.



You can run flush without stretched tires. You just cant run your car as low, or you need to pull your fenders out.

Posted by: trdproven Oct 7, 2009 - 4:35 PM

this is based on our 6gc specifically?

Posted by: Harold_Fastwaker Oct 7, 2009 - 4:45 PM

QUOTE (trdproven @ Oct 7, 2009 - 5:35 PM) *
this is based on our 6gc specifically?



Yes. Specifically done on my car and I back logged the numbers to adjust for other widths.

The 8.5 front and 9.5 rear is exactly what I am running right now.

Posted by: richee3 Oct 8, 2009 - 6:18 PM

QUOTE (Harold_Fastwaker @ Oct 7, 2009 - 1:05 PM) *
... Sunk wheels look like ass, even more so when they are 7in wide.


That they do. +1 for the stickies.

Posted by: SoundSlut_dotcom Oct 12, 2009 - 11:21 AM

i know this is annoying... but.. im about to order these rims.. so this is right before i buy these i just want to ask one last time.....

18x8 5x100/114.3 25
18x8 5x100/114.3 25
18x8 5x100/114.3 25

^^ WILL THESE FIT w/ no mod/no rubbing ... ps: also on airbags..

thnx

QUOTE (SoundSlut_dotcom @ Oct 12, 2009 - 10:21 AM) *
i know this is annoying... but.. im about to order these rims.. so this is right before i buy these i just want to ask one last time.....

18x8 5x100/114.3 25
18x8 5x100/114.3 25
18x8 5x100/114.3 25

^^ WILL THESE FIT w/ no mod/no rubbing ... ps: also on airbags..

thnx



that 25 is the offset

Posted by: 95CelicaST Oct 12, 2009 - 12:42 PM

You'll be golden, but how much bigger are your airbags than the standard strut?

Posted by: SoundSlut_dotcom Oct 12, 2009 - 12:49 PM

ill be honest i have no clue, maybe about an inch inch and a half all around ?

Posted by: 95CelicaST Oct 12, 2009 - 12:59 PM

What is your current setup? Wheel width and offset?

Posted by: SoundSlut_dotcom Oct 12, 2009 - 1:05 PM

17 x 7.5 sunk in like crazy.. im guessin a +45 ?

Posted by: 95CelicaST Oct 12, 2009 - 2:04 PM

Based on my math, you'll actually gain a bit over a half inch of strut clearance going from 7.5" +45 to 8" +25. So inner clearance won't be a problem, but you're going to extend an inch out towards the fender, so stick a ruler on your rim and measure out an inch - and that's going to tell you how close your rim will be to the fender.

Posted by: Harold_Fastwaker Oct 12, 2009 - 3:02 PM

QUOTE (SoundSlut_dotcom @ Oct 12, 2009 - 12:21 PM) *
i know this is annoying... but.. im about to order these rims.. so this is right before i buy these i just want to ask one last time.....

18x8 5x100/114.3 25
18x8 5x100/114.3 25
18x8 5x100/114.3 25

^^ WILL THESE FIT w/ no mod/no rubbing ... ps: also on airbags..

thnx



Not annoying at all. Hence why I made this thread to help out people who want proper fitting wheels.


QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Oct 12, 2009 - 3:04 PM) *
Based on my math, you'll actually gain a bit over a half inch of strut clearance going from 7.5" +45 to 8" +25. So inner clearance won't be a problem, but you're going to extend an inch out towards the fender, so stick a ruler on your rim and measure out an inch - and that's going to tell you how close your rim will be to the fender.




As stated, you will have 14mm more inner clearance than you have now and will bump out 26mm (1.1 inch). Since your wheels clear now they will not have a problem at all with the new wheels. Even if your wheels now are +40 you will gain 9mm more clearance on the inner and push out 21mm.

Posted by: Harold_Fastwaker Jan 27, 2010 - 2:40 PM




An example.

Posted by: nintyfourcelicaman Feb 7, 2010 - 8:59 PM

maybe this is a dumb question with a simple answer...but what is a stretched tire??? and if i have a set of 114.3 wheels and don't know the offet....how do i measure to know???? i know that i will need to buy wheel adapters....but i am looking for that flush wheel look...and will maybe need camber bolts for the rear and roll my rear fenders too... Thanks for your help in advance.

Posted by: 808celica Feb 7, 2010 - 9:45 PM

114.3 pattern wont fit our cars. stretched tire is just a smaller tire being fitted on a wider rim.

Posted by: Harold_Fastwaker Feb 7, 2010 - 11:32 PM

Look on the inside of your wheel. Somewhere it will have stamped the size, width and offset. Most likely on one of the spokes.

As stated with 114.3 which I believe is also 5x4.5 you need an adapter to change lug patterns. Minimum adapter width for this would be 20mm which is a bit under 1 inch. However, with celica studs you need 25mm to clear it. So calculate that into your offset.


Stretched tires are just like they sound. You take a narrower tire and make it fit some thing wider. For instance, you take a 7.5 width tire and mount it to a 9.5 wide wheel.

Posted by: 808celica Feb 8, 2010 - 3:21 AM

just something i keep forgetting to post

http://fatlace.com/hellaflush/

Harold, you down??? laugh.gif
If I see your car on fatlace i'll get my car up there too wink.gif

Posted by: Spider77 Feb 8, 2010 - 8:59 AM

.....

Posted by: Harold_Fastwaker Feb 9, 2010 - 12:36 AM

QUOTE (808celica @ Feb 8, 2010 - 3:21 AM) *
just something i keep forgetting to post

http://fatlace.com/hellaflush/

Harold, you down??? laugh.gif
If I see your car on fatlace i'll get my car up there too wink.gif



I was going to submit my car once my exhaust is finished and I am fully happy with my stance. So hopefully it will be on there shortly.

Posted by: SwissFerdi Feb 9, 2010 - 12:45 AM

I'm sorry, but I just don't get this HellaFlush craze...Harold, your stance and wheel fitment is pretty much perfect (even though I know you'll disagree). All I see on that site is stretched tires, hella camber, and just generally cars that look like...ass. Seriously.

Posted by: Harold_Fastwaker Feb 9, 2010 - 12:12 PM

QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Feb 9, 2010 - 12:45 AM) *
I'm sorry, but I just don't get this HellaFlush craze...Harold, your stance and wheel fitment is pretty much perfect (even though I know you'll disagree). All I see on that site is stretched tires, hella camber, and just generally cars that look like...ass. Seriously.


laugh.gif Thanks for the complement. biggrin.gif It is just boredom for me. After I see it for a while I want to change it up, unfortunately I do not have the money to buy a new set of wheels so I am stuck tinkering with what I have.

The other problem is my megans have now been lowered to their max setting frown.gif I need a 35 or 40 series tire now if I want it to go lower.

Posted by: SwissFerdi Feb 9, 2010 - 3:45 PM

QUOTE (Harold_Fastwaker @ Feb 9, 2010 - 12:12 PM) *
laugh.gif Thanks for the complement. biggrin.gif It is just boredom for me. After I see it for a while I want to change it up, unfortunately I do not have the money to buy a new set of wheels so I am stuck tinkering with what I have.

The other problem is my megans have now been lowered to their max setting frown.gif I need a 35 or 40 series tire now if I want it to go lower.


You're welcome, but I'm taking that back unless you show up to the meet. Screw lacrosse.

I can imagine that though, even I get a little bored unless I do something new (and I've done relatively little).

Posted by: nintyfourcelicaman Mar 2, 2010 - 10:07 PM

okay so i decided not to go with 19" rims and found a great deal on some 18" x 8 1/2" Enkei EV5 wheels with what i believe is a 35 offset (stamp is on the inside of the hub, a 35 inside a circle)...what will i need for a flush look? will i need spacers and what tires should i get? my car is lowered...THANKS in advanced.

Posted by: 95CelicaST Mar 4, 2010 - 2:39 PM

You'll need an 8mm spacer up front to bring the front offset to +27 and a 25mm spacer in the rear to bring the rear offset to +10.

Posted by: Harold_Fastwaker Mar 4, 2010 - 2:49 PM

QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Mar 4, 2010 - 2:39 PM) *
You'll need an 8mm spacer up front to bring the front offset to +27 and a 25mm spacer in the rear to bring the rear offset to +10.



Well his PM to me said the wheels are 114 and 120. So he needs an adapter and min spacer for that is 25mm. So he is going to poke a bit up front, nothing -camber cant fix.

Posted by: 95CelicaST Mar 4, 2010 - 3:31 PM

That is going to be a LOT of poke up front, camber would need to be -4

Posted by: nintyfourcelicaman Mar 4, 2010 - 3:50 PM

I can buy 20mm adapters for the front....that would take me to +15... i think you said above that i need et+27 for the fronts...Hmm...what number do i need to get to? can anyone tell me how i install camber and where i can buy them please? thank you.

Posted by: Harold_Fastwaker Mar 4, 2010 - 3:53 PM

QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Mar 4, 2010 - 3:31 PM) *
That is going to be a LOT of poke up front, camber would need to be -4



biggrin.gif That is where I am headed right now. Ordering new front spacers to get me some poke. My rears are perfect, but negative camber up front leaves my wheels looking sunken.

Posted by: 95CelicaST Mar 4, 2010 - 4:04 PM

QUOTE (nintyfourcelicaman @ Mar 4, 2010 - 12:50 PM) *
I can buy 20mm adapters for the front....that would take me to +15... i think you said above that i need et+27 for the fronts...Hmm...what number do i need to get to? can anyone tell me how i install camber and where i can buy them please? thank you.


Flush is +27. With a 20mm lug adapter on the front you'll be 12mm PAST flush. Either you'll need to run stretched tires on the front or some SERIOUS camber. Those wheels will sit 1/2" outside of your fender with that configuration.



Posted by: nintyfourcelicaman Mar 4, 2010 - 4:42 PM

ok...so if i am running 1/2 inch past the stock fender...but i have fiberglass billlit fenders....i wonder if they are wider than stock??? also how do i buy camber kits?? Thanks for all the help and advice so far...i'm trying to figure this all out as we go along!! biggrin.gif

Posted by: 95CelicaST Mar 4, 2010 - 5:19 PM

With fiberglass fenders you're going to need to worry about the wheels hitting and cracking them. I would highly suggest going back to OEM and then roll the fender lip flat.


Look for Eibach's camber kit. They'll do what you need.

Posted by: nintyfourcelicaman Mar 4, 2010 - 10:56 PM

thank you for the link and the advice!!! i will let you know how i make out with it all.... i really do appriciate it! thanks again

Posted by: Goonter Mar 12, 2010 - 6:03 AM

k i'm planning on using spacers/adapters. but have a few questions before a go ahead and do it. safety-wise, which one is better. 15 mm spacers with extended studs, or a 25 mm Bolt-on Adapter? and how fast will each setting eat up my wheel bearing frown.gif?

Posted by: Harold_Fastwaker Mar 13, 2010 - 12:02 AM

both eat up your bearings at the same rate. It will depend on your final offset to give you an overall amount. Not like we can tell you an exact time frame they will last anyway. All depends on your mileage to begin with.


I dunno which is better between bolt on or studs. I wouldnt trust 15mm with extended studs though, but I bet science can prove me wrong. I just think anything over 10 needs to be bolted on.

Posted by: Goonter Mar 13, 2010 - 12:21 AM

arg .. i see thanks for the response. guess ill try out 25mm bolt-ons on rear and 10 mm extended stud in the front. anywho. how much would it be for new wheel bearings each?.. just so i know how much i would be spending in case they DO give out

Posted by: Harold_Fastwaker Mar 13, 2010 - 5:14 PM

QUOTE (Goonter @ Mar 13, 2010 - 12:21 AM) *
arg .. i see thanks for the response. guess ill try out 25mm bolt-ons on rear and 10 mm extended stud in the front. anywho. how much would it be for new wheel bearings each?.. just so i know how much i would be spending in case they DO give out



go to RockAuto.com and look them up. They give you a pretty solid price, they will be comparable if you go to Autozone or Advance Auto as well.

Posted by: Goonter Mar 13, 2010 - 6:41 PM

thanks smile.gif

Posted by: whatthe May 2, 2010 - 6:19 AM

Throwing my 17x8 +35 with 225/45/17 this week back on. With a set of these 25mm 56mm bore hub centric spacers effectively making the rear +10. I probably wont be able to run these straight up as it will rub with the rear lining and need to get it rolled somewhere. But im looking forward to it biggrin.gif


Posted by: Driveby May 2, 2010 - 11:47 AM

Snap! (almost)
Just fitted 30mm H&R rear spacers and 10mm fronts on the same size wheel and tyre combo on my GT4.
No rubbing issues with my suspension set up, but I have camber bolts on the rear to improve my stance woot.gif

Posted by: whatthe May 2, 2010 - 12:04 PM

Driveby how much negative camber are you running on the rear? You didnt have the roll guards? From what i remember with my 17x8 on it was cutting close the the lining without spacers.

Posted by: Driveby May 2, 2010 - 12:19 PM

I dont know the exact reading mate, I set it up with a spirit level (to get both sides equal) and how it looked. I have coilover rear suspension set for track use so is very firm, I am planning on rolling my rear arches as Im on a quest for moar low although I dont need to with my current set up. Maybe the 202 and 205 rear suspension setups are quite different, Im not sure. The tops of my rims are flush with the outer arch and I can get 1 finger between the top of the tyre and the arch. The bottom of the strut is only 3mm from the rear cv boot so I darent go any lower on this setup
Im at a 2litre turbo shoot-out tomorrow so will hopefully get some good pics and will post them up for approval.
Hope this helps mate.

Posted by: Driveby May 3, 2010 - 1:07 PM

By looking at the pictures Im running a bit of negative camber in the rear wink.gif Ill have to measure it at work.








Posted by: vincent_doggy May 4, 2010 - 5:54 AM

Guys do some math for me, I have 17x7.5 offset30 all around
No need to be hella flush, just more flush...
Please provide 2 data for the rear if possible:
Roll fender & No Roll
Thanks!

Posted by: whatthe May 20, 2010 - 4:55 AM

VC you will need 15mm on the front and 30 at the back. These are both for roll. I guess if you dont want to roll buy like 10 and 25?

Posted by: whatthe May 28, 2010 - 5:06 AM

Okay 6gc, i have a serious dilemma.

My 15mm bolt on spacers need some serious work on the wheels to get it to work. At the moment they are at the tyre shop waiting for monday to get the back to get shaved abit so the stud and nut that sticks out of the spacer wont get in the way.

Shaving the back in futher would cost like $145 which is basically what the spacers cost. And then i will need shorter studs for the hub.
I was thinking this will be all over if i ran 20mm spacers at the fronts. Cause the nut and stud wont be sticking out.

But that would make my fronts 17x8 +15. I dont know if that is too much poke.

Posted by: Promasta May 28, 2010 - 1:05 PM

marco has 18x8 +15 front and rear, and it looks amazing. but with that aggressive of an offset your 225/45 tires are too wide. with any poke you want a stretched tire, at least 215/45 or 215/40.

Posted by: whatthe May 28, 2010 - 1:39 PM

^ Thanks for that. Marcos running 225 anyway and it looks decent. Either way going to purchase 20mm tomorrow, and hopefully solves all my problems and then pick up rims back from the wheel shop on monday. Alll that running around today in town all for nothing!


Posted by: 808celica May 30, 2010 - 3:38 AM

i got bigger ones laugh.gif

Posted by: whatthe May 30, 2010 - 5:12 AM

^Dude how big are they?

Posted by: 808celica Jun 1, 2010 - 4:16 AM

1.5" converted into mm???

Posted by: Harold_Fastwaker Jun 1, 2010 - 10:08 AM

QUOTE (808celica @ Jun 1, 2010 - 5:16 AM) *
1.5" converted into mm???



nice!


and that is roughly 38mm.

Posted by: HectortheRican Aug 3, 2010 - 12:26 PM

So my wheel is 7.5" and 45mm offset. the chart says +15mm front and -2mm rear, does that mean I need 30mm spacers on front and 47mm rear?? I'm just trying to understand, I'm not sure I'm doing the math right. That seems a little big

Posted by: sunwukongg Aug 16, 2010 - 10:19 PM

QUOTE (Harold_Fastwaker @ Feb 9, 2010 - 1:36 AM) *
QUOTE (808celica @ Feb 8, 2010 - 3:21 AM) *
just something i keep forgetting to post

http://fatlace.com/hellaflush/

Harold, you down??? laugh.gif
If I see your car on fatlace i'll get my car up there too wink.gif



I was going to submit my car once my exhaust is finished and I am fully happy with my stance. So hopefully it will be on there shortly.


get your car up there already!

Posted by: diegohiga Sep 7, 2010 - 5:49 PM

Ok I have question.. Someone might asked this before but my only access to 6gc is thru my phone and I can't serch to much from here cause is slow.. Ok my question is... I want my rear wheels to look flush! I have 18x7.5 35 offset and I already rolled my fenders... The chart says I have to get 37mm sapcers? That's = to 1.5 inches spacers.. Is that right? And I would need to get the camber bolts?

Posted by: block Sep 13, 2010 - 11:36 PM

this wheel flush thing is confusing me. LOL....i've been reading so much and it's still confusing! maybe im just not getting this at all...

Posted by: easternpiro1 Sep 14, 2010 - 12:55 AM

QUOTE (block @ Sep 13, 2010 - 11:36 PM) *
this wheel flush thing is confusing me. LOL....i've been reading so much and it's still confusing! maybe im just not getting this at all...



x2 im so confused. im interested in this thread because i like the deep dish rims and want some for my celica but i know you have to have certain measurements/offset which is confusing to me...

Posted by: block Sep 14, 2010 - 7:50 PM

tell me about it bro kindasad.gif i just want my wheels flushed lol laugh.gif

Posted by: HectortheRican Sep 14, 2010 - 10:26 PM

QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Sep 13, 2010 - 11:55 PM) *
QUOTE (block @ Sep 13, 2010 - 11:36 PM) *
this wheel flush thing is confusing me. LOL....i've been reading so much and it's still confusing! maybe im just not getting this at all...



x2 im so confused. im interested in this thread because i like the deep dish rims and want some for my celica but i know you have to have certain measurements/offset which is confusing to me...

What size are your wheels? diameter, width, offset

Posted by: easternpiro1 Sep 15, 2010 - 12:12 AM

right now i have some 7.5 widths on there, but i plan on buying some new ones towards the end of the year. i want some rims with a 2-4 inch lip i like the look just not sure how that applies to the dimension of the rim.

Posted by: HectortheRican Sep 15, 2010 - 1:16 AM

QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Sep 14, 2010 - 11:12 PM) *
right now i have some 7.5 widths on there, but i plan on buying some new ones towards the end of the year. i want some rims with a 2-4 inch lip i like the look just not sure how that applies to the dimension of the rim.

You just need to find out the offset & width of the rim you want and use the chart to do the math for spacers Like me for example, I have a 7.5" wide wheel with a +45mm offset. According to the chart, I need a +15mm in the front, and -2mm in the rear, which means I'll need a 30mm spacer up front and a 47mm in the rear (which is crazy, that's too big)

Posted by: whatthe Sep 23, 2010 - 10:32 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBWeQHZy_nw&feature=grec_index

Great video that gets to the point of pros and cons of spacers

Posted by: HectortheRican Sep 23, 2010 - 2:58 PM

Great video!! thumbsup.gif

Posted by: chacha Sep 23, 2010 - 8:53 PM

so do we use hub centric spacers or the lugs spacers?

i have 17x7.5 35mm offset...

option with roll or not?


how did you guys do the math....i want to be hell flush too.

Posted by: whatthe Sep 23, 2010 - 10:09 PM

HUB centric

Posted by: HectortheRican Sep 23, 2010 - 10:42 PM

QUOTE (chacha @ Sep 23, 2010 - 7:53 PM) *
so do we use hub centric spacers or the lugs spacers?

i have 17x7.5 35mm offset...

option with roll or not?


how did you guys do the math....i want to be hell flush too.

The chart is on the 1st page of this thread.

Posted by: chacha Sep 23, 2010 - 11:06 PM

i saw the first page...with mines...since the rims are the same....front and rear...confirming i need 15mm?

Posted by: HectortheRican Sep 23, 2010 - 11:21 PM

QUOTE (chacha @ Sep 23, 2010 - 10:06 PM) *
i saw the first page...with mines...since the rims are the same....front and rear...confirming i need 15mm?

Nah. The fenders are wider in the back so you need more offset in the rear. Proper offset for 7.5" wide is +15mm front, -2mm rear

Posted by: chacha Sep 23, 2010 - 11:58 PM

thanks...so i would ask for a -2mm rear hub cent spacer and +15mm hub cent spacer.

Posted by: HectortheRican Sep 24, 2010 - 12:06 AM

QUOTE (chacha @ Sep 23, 2010 - 10:58 PM) *
thanks...so i would ask for a -2mm rear hub cent spacer and +15mm hub cent spacer.

Nononononono! That would do nothing lol
Your wheels are +35mm offset, all 4. So fronts need a 20mm spacer to bring it down to +15mm and rears need a 37mm spacer to bring it down to -2mm. Get it? It took me a while too lol

Posted by: chacha Sep 25, 2010 - 3:00 AM

man...hahaha....craziness...reading didn't seem like you had to be a rocket scientist to figure it out, BUT the end results makes you feel like a fool; i ended with some many question marks on my face. biggrin.gif

THANKS for the clarification Hec...

Posted by: HectortheRican Sep 25, 2010 - 9:37 AM

No problem man biggrin.gif

Posted by: sunwukongg Oct 1, 2010 - 12:28 PM

is it possible for me to just get a flushed aggressive stance look without rolling fenders and stretched tires?

Posted by: HectortheRican Oct 1, 2010 - 12:47 PM

QUOTE (sunwukongg @ Oct 1, 2010 - 11:28 AM) *
is it possible for me to just get a flushed aggressive stance look without rolling fenders and stretched tires?

You only need stretched tires for hellaflush. You can get a great looking and aggressive functional flush look, but you'll still need to roll the rear fenders. The fronts are already rolled.

Posted by: Ted95 Oct 2, 2010 - 11:38 AM

QUOTE (Driveby @ May 3, 2010 - 2:07 PM) *
By looking at the pictures Im running a bit of negative camber in the rear wink.gif Ill have to measure it at work.










that looks BA bro, thats how i want mines to look. wat size spacers did u use and did u have to roll the fenders?

Posted by: 96stgreendemon Nov 16, 2010 - 4:32 PM

Ok so i think that i may have this,
with my 7th gen gts wheels they have an offset of + 38 i believe, so a 16 mm spacer up front, and a 33mm spacer in the back and i would be flush correct? running 205 series tires

Posted by: HectortheRican Nov 16, 2010 - 4:36 PM

Damn, 7th gen wheels are 8"?! Didn't know that. But yeah, you'd be flush as a toilet.

Sorry for the pun.

Edit: I did some research and 7th gen wheels are 6.5", from what I found.

Posted by: 96stgreendemon Nov 16, 2010 - 4:54 PM

the wheels are 6.5 wide but a 205 tire is 8 inches wide

Posted by: HectortheRican Nov 16, 2010 - 4:56 PM

QUOTE (96stgreendemon @ Nov 16, 2010 - 3:54 PM) *
the wheels are 6.5 wide but a 205 tire is 8 inches wide

Gotcha. Why do that, may I so ask? Lol

Posted by: 96stgreendemon Nov 16, 2010 - 4:59 PM

was oem spec on the tire and gives me more grip

Posted by: HectortheRican Nov 16, 2010 - 5:01 PM

QUOTE (96stgreendemon @ Nov 16, 2010 - 3:59 PM) *
was oem spec on the tire and gives me more grip

Ah, makes sense. Well I think those spacers would work...

Posted by: 96stgreendemon Nov 16, 2010 - 5:04 PM

Yeah looking at 240 bucks for the set...... but gonna go 20 up front lol

Posted by: HectortheRican Nov 16, 2010 - 5:09 PM

Dayyum lol. I want to get new wheels by this time next year. 8" wide lol

Posted by: BonzaiCelica Nov 16, 2010 - 8:33 PM

+39mm offset for 7gc rims

Posted by: whatthe Nov 16, 2010 - 8:40 PM

QUOTE (96stgreendemon @ Nov 17, 2010 - 8:54 AM) *
the wheels are 6.5 wide but a 205 tire is 8 inches wide

Uhhh a 205 can fit nicely on 6.5-7
8 inch wide your looking at 215 225

If your putting 205 over 8 you will be stretching it

Posted by: BonzaiCelica Nov 17, 2010 - 8:29 PM

QUOTE (whatthe @ Nov 16, 2010 - 9:40 PM) *
QUOTE (96stgreendemon @ Nov 17, 2010 - 8:54 AM) *
the wheels are 6.5 wide but a 205 tire is 8 inches wide

Uhhh a 205 can fit nicely on 6.5-7
8 inch wide your looking at 215 225

If your putting 205 over 8 you will be stretching it


you read it wrong he said that a 205mm size tire is about 8 inches wide!

Posted by: BonzaiCelica Nov 28, 2010 - 10:41 PM



this is a one man job if ya use your logic a little. This is when you are tightening the studs so that are seated into the hub. Installed my wheel spacers and they look awesome

Posted by: njccmd2002 Nov 29, 2010 - 5:55 PM

^^^ Bro be carerful with that pry bar, that can actually damage the studs if you use to much force. i would protect them with lug nuts. at least.

It happened to me...

Posted by: BonzaiCelica Nov 29, 2010 - 8:33 PM

what are you talking about. how can I break them?? well I already put all of them on so its done with

Posted by: sunwukongg Nov 30, 2010 - 10:51 AM

pics of your rides stance please bonzai haha

Posted by: BonzaiCelica Dec 1, 2010 - 1:58 AM

QUOTE (sunwukongg @ Nov 30, 2010 - 11:51 AM) *
pics of your rides stance please bonzai haha


the cars dirty right now and so are the rims. I'm going to wax it next Saturday maybe, and if not I'll just take some pictures since its supposed to rain this Saturday. The wheels don't look like wow but they look good. It's probably better if you check em out in person one of these weekends

Posted by: stl95celica Dec 5, 2010 - 5:40 PM

okay so im ordering Diamond racing wheeels and i dont know what backspace to get. This chart https://www.rsracing.com/images/tech-wheeloffset.gif says i should get % inches for front and back? im getting 15x8 and i want it to sit flush

Posted by: HectortheRican Dec 5, 2010 - 5:57 PM

That chart makes no sense to me. What's backspace?

Posted by: stl95celica Dec 5, 2010 - 7:21 PM

im getting these http://www.diamondracingwheels.com/pro.html. and they do offset by backspace i gues and the chart is like a conversion sheet i think. im getting 15x8 and its only a 1-5 inch backspace and im pretty confused

Posted by: HectortheRican Dec 5, 2010 - 8:42 PM

I'm thinking of the backspace as a spacer and if it is like a spacer, it doesn't make sense, the larger a spacer, the more negative the offset, this seems to be the opposite.

Posted by: BonzaiCelica Dec 6, 2010 - 12:15 AM

I'm guessing you'll be using those wheels for track/quarter mile use?? And please give us more pics of your SSR Type C setup in the official post a pic of your 6gc thread!!

Posted by: whatthe Dec 6, 2010 - 5:57 AM

SSR Type C's are awesome rims biggrin.gif

Posted by: stl95celica Dec 6, 2010 - 10:51 AM

The SSR's looked great on, But i smashed one last winter so there not on anymore. ill try and see if i have any good pictures of them on. the fitment sucked though


Does anybody have any idea how backspace works?

Posted by: whatthe Dec 6, 2010 - 11:18 AM

Oh those diamond racing rims are awesome. Ive seen some on hondas and they look great. Definately get them. And better off giving them a call and ask them about the backspace and how they measure it.

Posted by: Ted95 Dec 6, 2010 - 7:58 PM

i almost bought some dimond racing steelies but then i found a great deal on some 7th gen with mint toyo proxres4 so i got them instead.

btw what would i need to make the 7th gens flush? offset is 39

Posted by: Promasta Dec 6, 2010 - 9:04 PM

35 mm spacer.

problem with the 7th gens is they are only 6.5" wide, thats narrower than stock lol

Posted by: Driver Dec 6, 2010 - 9:18 PM

QUOTE (Promasta @ Dec 6, 2010 - 10:04 PM) *
35 mm spacer.

problem with the 7th gens is they are only 6.5" wide, thats narrower than stock lol


Is 35mm for front and rear?

Posted by: stl95celica Dec 6, 2010 - 9:59 PM

So Ted did figure out what backspace was?

Posted by: Ted95 Dec 6, 2010 - 10:15 PM

35mm huh, ya im not going to put a 35mm spacer on my car lol, thats more then an inch right?

im in the process of a 3rd gen swap, i feel like with the power the 3rd gen will put down i will end up breakin something lol

and no i dont kno what back spacing is. i didnt look into it to b honest but if i had to make and educated guess i would say the space between the inner part of the tire/rim and the strut? lol idk man dk much about offsets thats y i asked my own question.

Posted by: stl95celica Dec 7, 2010 - 9:24 PM

AHHHH i finally figured it out. expect some deep dish steelies onn my car soon

Posted by: Ted95 Dec 7, 2010 - 11:21 PM

QUOTE (stl95celica @ Dec 7, 2010 - 9:24 PM) *
AHHHH i finally figured it out. expect some deep dish steelies onn my car soon



do it up!!!!! ive been dieinggg to see them on a celi and almost did it but couldnt find a set locally or find a steelie i liked enough to make them. i kno someone who can widen them to any size i want and what not

Posted by: Promasta Dec 8, 2010 - 12:11 AM

QUOTE (Driver @ Dec 6, 2010 - 9:18 PM) *
QUOTE (Promasta @ Dec 6, 2010 - 10:04 PM) *
35 mm spacer.

problem with the 7th gens is they are only 6.5" wide, thats narrower than stock lol


Is 35mm for front and rear?


30-35 mm spacer for front.
40-45 mm spacer for rear.

don't do it.
if you're going to go flush(ish) don't do it with wheels that are narrower than stock.

Posted by: Ted95 Dec 8, 2010 - 11:53 AM

QUOTE (Promasta @ Dec 8, 2010 - 12:11 AM) *
QUOTE (Driver @ Dec 6, 2010 - 9:18 PM) *
QUOTE (Promasta @ Dec 6, 2010 - 10:04 PM) *
35 mm spacer.

problem with the 7th gens is they are only 6.5" wide, thats narrower than stock lol


Is 35mm for front and rear?


30-35 mm spacer for front.
40-45 mm spacer for rear.

don't do it.
if you're going to go flush(ish) don't do it with wheels that are narrower than stock.


ya after seeing how big of a spacer i would need im not going to lol its just not worth it

Posted by: cjh4l22 Dec 8, 2010 - 11:42 PM

ok so i'm having some trouble getting this, guess i'm a little slow... I want to buy a set of wheels that are 17x8.5 w/48 offset. SO what sort of spacers do i need front & back fellas?
thanks.

Posted by: HectortheRican Dec 9, 2010 - 4:17 PM

QUOTE (cjh4l22 @ Dec 8, 2010 - 10:42 PM) *
ok so i'm having some trouble getting this, guess i'm a little slow... I want to buy a set of wheels that are 17x8.5 w/48 offset. SO what sort of spacers do i need front & back fellas?
thanks.

You'll need 21mm spacers for front and 38mm for rear. Remember, that's for hellaflush. If you want just a nice, functional flush, I'd say 15mm front and 30mm rear would do nicely.

Posted by: Ted95 Dec 9, 2010 - 4:50 PM

QUOTE (cjh4l22 @ Dec 8, 2010 - 11:42 PM) *
ok so i'm having some trouble getting this, guess i'm a little slow... I want to buy a set of wheels that are 17x8.5 w/48 offset. SO what sort of spacers do i need front & back fellas?
thanks.


be prepared to crush ur front fenders. watch out for that.. thats why im not putting my corvette wheels on my celi bc ill prob destroy my fenders

Posted by: Promasta Dec 9, 2010 - 9:09 PM

naw, 17x8.5 i think would be perfect on our cars. with a 32 offset.

super rare size/offset in the 5x100 pattern, but work xd9's have it.

or 17x8 +25 front and 17x9 +25 rear, but staggered for fwd is kinda lame.

Posted by: 808celica Dec 11, 2010 - 1:13 AM

QUOTE (HectortheRican @ Dec 9, 2010 - 11:17 AM) *
QUOTE (cjh4l22 @ Dec 8, 2010 - 10:42 PM) *
ok so i'm having some trouble getting this, guess i'm a little slow... I want to buy a set of wheels that are 17x8.5 w/48 offset. SO what sort of spacers do i need front & back fellas?
thanks.

You'll need 21mm spacers for front and 38mm for rear. Remember, that's for hellaflush. If you want just a nice, functional flush, I'd say 15mm front and 30mm rear would do nicely.



You guys are looking at it from the wrong perspective.


QUOTE (Ted95 @ Dec 9, 2010 - 11:50 AM) *
QUOTE (cjh4l22 @ Dec 8, 2010 - 11:42 PM) *
ok so i'm having some trouble getting this, guess i'm a little slow... I want to buy a set of wheels that are 17x8.5 w/48 offset. SO what sort of spacers do i need front & back fellas?
thanks.


be prepared to crush ur front fenders. watch out for that.. thats why im not putting my corvette wheels on my celi bc ill prob destroy my fenders


Fenders are meant to be crushed wink.gif That's they're safety feature.


QUOTE (Promasta @ Dec 9, 2010 - 4:09 PM) *
naw, 17x8.5 i think would be perfect on our cars. with a 32 offset.

super rare size/offset in the 5x100 pattern, but work xd9's have it.

or 17x8 +25 front and 17x9 +25 rear, but staggered for fwd is kinda lame.



First and foremost! YOU GUYS NEED TO BUY BETTER RIMS!!!! Starting with rims not made for Subaru's is a good start.

People people people use Math, if you want HellaFlush just get closest to 0 as possible. Easy enough??

If you wanna be on the safe side......then get closest to 20 offset.

Posted by: Promasta Dec 11, 2010 - 2:55 AM

?
808 you can't just say an offset without a width.
some guys on here like whatthe are trying to make a 6.5" wide wheel flush, in which case yes the offset should be around 0, but if you have a 8.5" wide wheel then the offset would have to be +25 to have the same flushness.

Posted by: 808celica Dec 11, 2010 - 4:06 AM

I have both my 18x8 (+30) and 15x7 (+whatever the offset is on stock) wheels flush on the celica, same spacers, same effect. Spacers are ~~30mm and ~~25mm. The width imo should determine how much concave and how fat of a lip you have. or how small of a lip.

Posted by: Promasta Dec 11, 2010 - 4:44 AM

don't mean to argue with you, and i love the look of your car,

but width definitely affects how flush the wheel is, people need to know this.

stock offset is 45
a 18x8 +30 sticks out 28 mm (over an inch) further than a 15x7 +45. that's the math.

Posted by: 95CelicaST Dec 11, 2010 - 4:51 AM

Width definitely changes things. Width isn't just added on to the outer portion of the wheel - it's on both sides. A 9" rim is going to be 1" wider in both directions from the mounting surface. This means 1" closer to the fender, and 1" closer to the strut.


I don't see what is so hard about Harold's easy-to-follow math in the first post. This is really a no brainer, guys.

Posted by: Tigawoods Dec 19, 2010 - 9:04 PM

i never was a fan of this method of wheel spacers but i would like to gather a community opinion of it

quoted from H&R's site
"DRA Series spacers bolt to the hub with special wheel bolts (included) and provide new threaded holes for wheel bolts."

i have the regular style where you must replace the studs for longer ones. but as i grow older and lazier, the DRA spacers seem more enticing.
so
whats the general opinion?

Posted by: 95CelicaST Dec 20, 2010 - 6:49 PM

So it turns the studs to wheel bolts? Sounds like what VW was done for a very long time.

Posted by: 96stgreendemon Dec 20, 2010 - 9:15 PM

Ive looked into a few sets of spacers, and one of the local car scene guys is running 27mm spacers, but, they are hubcentric and he has never had an issue with them, no vibration or anything, as long as you are not buying cheap spacers you will usually not run into issues with teh bolt ons
they came from motorsport-tech.com

Posted by: Neon90424 Jan 21, 2011 - 12:20 AM

I'm not looking for the flush look but for the tires sticking out look I bought 4 spacers for my st205, How would this look with the factory 6spoke 16x7 rim?



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyota-Celica-5x100mm-Wheel-Adapter-Spacer-25mm-2pc-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem256057e531QQitemZ160530162993QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Toyota Celica 5x100mm Wheel Adapter Spacer 25mm

* Suitable for 5 x 100mm
* Available in 25mm Width Each
* Inserted with 12mm X 1.50 Studs [12mm X 1.50 Open End Lug Nuts INCLUDED]
* Brand New
* CNC Machined
* 6061 Billet Aluminum

Posted by: 96stgreendemon Jan 22, 2011 - 1:06 PM

You do not want those, they are lug-centric which means the weight of your car will be on the lug studs and not on the hub. the spacers you want are going to be the same size but look for spacers that are HUB-Centric with a 54.1 Center Bore size, this will be easier on your car and less chance of really messing something up, Just remember you gotta pay to play.
Here are a few reputable links, and the Motorsport tech ones you can have custom made to your specs
http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=WS-5510054C&Category_Code=ICHIBA-WHEEL-SPACER2&Store_Code=EM
http://www.motorsport-tech.com/4DCGI/a_type_centric.html , and i even did some of the work on there for you, spend some money and get quality spacers, there are some things you just dont cheap out on

Posted by: salv Jan 26, 2011 - 12:57 PM

My local friend runs this company. Really great spacers and I rock a set in the summer.

http://novustech.ca/

Posted by: Neon90424 Jan 26, 2011 - 9:22 PM

Well I installed em anyways and so far no problems

Posted by: TEAMFaint Jan 27, 2011 - 10:06 PM

Sal thanks for the link my man, which ones are you rocking on your 205?

This spring/summer I`m wanting to get these speedlines of mine as flush as possible.
17x7 +35 offset. Im thinkin 20mm? Whacha think gents!

Posted by: whatthe Jan 27, 2011 - 11:36 PM

QUOTE (TEAMFaint @ Jan 28, 2011 - 2:06 PM) *
Sal thanks for the link my man, which ones are you rocking on your 205?

This spring/summer I`m wanting to get these speedlines of mine as flush as possible.
17x7 +35 offset. Im thinkin 20mm? Whacha think gents!

20 at the front
25 at the back. Sounds goood

Posted by: stl95celica Feb 2, 2011 - 6:31 PM

needs a good drop but its getting there




Posted by: HectortheRican Feb 2, 2011 - 8:07 PM

Wow, those actually look surprisingly good... I wonder what Kyle will think laugh.gif

Posted by: whatthe Feb 2, 2011 - 8:33 PM

QUOTE (stl95celica @ Feb 3, 2011 - 10:31 AM) *
needs a good drop but its getting there




Looks so good! Specs on rims? and tyres

Posted by: stl95celica Feb 3, 2011 - 12:09 AM

Rims are 15x8 with a 5 inch backspace. Im pretty sure thats +15 and the tyres are 205/55/15. The wheel well gap looks horrible. i have megan racing springs now. i am hesitant with putting on the ebay coilovers i bought to get rid of the gap while i save up for some legit coilovers.

Posted by: 808celica Feb 3, 2011 - 12:57 AM

QUOTE (stl95celica @ Feb 2, 2011 - 7:09 PM) *
Rims are 15x8 with a 5 inch backspace. Im pretty sure thats +15 and the tyres are 205/55/15. The wheel well gap looks horrible. i have megan racing springs now. i am hesitant with putting on the ebay coilovers i bought to get rid of the gap while i save up for some legit coilovers.


Told you Diamond racing rims would look Cherry.
Should've went 195/50/15 though kindasad.gif

What about ebay coil sleeves??? I have them and they're fine for me, this is 3/4 down with tire rubbing and rolled/cut fenders


more camber and somewhat lower

Posted by: stl95celica Feb 3, 2011 - 2:23 PM

I need to roll my finders so bad. But they sent me a box full of **** and I don't know how to put em together. They didnt send instructions either. But I def want to put them on in the mean time

Posted by: Ted95 Feb 3, 2011 - 3:10 PM

QUOTE (stl95celica @ Feb 2, 2011 - 6:31 PM) *
needs a good drop but its getting there






LOVE ITTTTT!!!!!! i wanted to get these soo bad until i found a great deal on GTS wheels.

wheels look dope bro

def will look into a set of them if i pick up another celi.

how much they run you if you dont mind me asking?

and did u order them from diamond wheel racing or w.e it is?

Posted by: stl95celica Feb 4, 2011 - 1:15 AM

Yeah there the DRW pro series. All together it was about 400 dollars

Posted by: 96stgreendemon Feb 4, 2011 - 10:15 AM

As in 400 for just the wheels or is that with tires too? i wouldnt mind snatching up a pair of these for auto-x this summer, and damn they do look good

Posted by: stl95celica Feb 4, 2011 - 10:53 AM

No tires sense they were 15's. I just used the tires from my stock rims. I dont know if you want them for auto x there super heavy the website said 18 pounds a piece! way heavier then stock.

Posted by: Tigawoods Feb 5, 2011 - 4:30 AM

looks like im a month too late

Posted by: bloodMoney Jul 16, 2011 - 12:52 PM

Alright guys, I'm bringing this back so that I can make an educated decision on big wheels. I'm not looking for hella-flush, I just want big beefy wheels and tires to fill out the wells...

http://www.nlmotoring.com/XXR-522-Wheels-17x9-Chromium-Black-p/52279102c.htm

The question is what will I need to get a +42 offset on these 9" wheels to fit on the my Abby (96 GT on eibach prolines w/GR2s)?

Posted by: block Jul 16, 2011 - 1:15 PM

Stock offset isn't +42? I thought it was +35? Whatever. Just get an offset between 20-30 and you'll look good (depending on size). I have 17x8 +35 in the front and need about 5mm for flush. Same setup for the rears and need 10mm for flush.

Posted by: Promasta Jul 16, 2011 - 2:17 PM

pretty sure no one on this site has put a 9" width in the front. you would be the first.

Posted by: bloodMoney Jul 20, 2011 - 12:54 PM

Really? There's no one here with 9" wheels on their car?

Posted by: Por2geezcelica Jul 21, 2011 - 2:02 PM

how will an 18x7.5 with a +45 offset fit? Will i need any spacers to make them sit pretty flush? Im not looking to cut or roll my fenders.

Posted by: Promasta Jul 21, 2011 - 7:06 PM

QUOTE (bloodMoney @ Jul 20, 2011 - 1:54 PM) *
Really? There's no one here with 9" wheels on their car?


up to 9.5" has been done in the rear, but 8.5" is the highest for the front (as far as i know, and i have researched this a lot)

Posted by: block Jul 21, 2011 - 8:40 PM

i think someone had some 9" wide crome rims in the front. it was a while back though...

QUOTE (Por2geezcelica @ Jul 21, 2011 - 2:02 PM) *
how will an 18x7.5 with a +45 offset fit? Will i need any spacers to make them sit pretty flush? Im not looking to cut or roll my fenders.



dude, you'll need 20-25mm spacers. i dont know why people choose such high offsets....plus didn't someone mention that +45 wouldn't clear?

Posted by: bloodMoney Jul 21, 2011 - 8:50 PM

QUOTE (Promasta @ Jul 21, 2011 - 7:06 PM) *
QUOTE (bloodMoney @ Jul 20, 2011 - 1:54 PM) *
Really? There's no one here with 9" wheels on their car?


up to 9.5" has been done in the rear, but 8.5" is the highest for the front (as far as i know, and i have researched this a lot)



Honestly, that's really disappointing. I wonder if its different for the SuperStrut suspension....

Posted by: Promasta Jul 21, 2011 - 9:24 PM

QUOTE (bloodMoney @ Jul 21, 2011 - 9:50 PM) *
Honestly, that's really disappointing.


Tell me about it. This exact wheel and size (17x9 +30) comes in 5x100 and is inexpensive, and I think it would look great on a celica! Someone please try it!




Posted by: SwissFerdi Jul 21, 2011 - 9:28 PM

^ Those would look utterly clean on my Celi...resprayed, of course.

Posted by: block Jul 21, 2011 - 9:57 PM

what wheels are those? they're sexy as hell! wink.gif

Posted by: bloodMoney Jul 21, 2011 - 10:05 PM

They look like Rota Torques

I thought about picking up a set that was 18X9.5 with a +35 offset. I may try to fit those as one of my buddies has a set on his 2J powered Cressida wink.gif

Posted by: HectortheRican Jul 22, 2011 - 3:54 PM

QUOTE (block @ Jul 21, 2011 - 8:40 PM) *
i think someone had some 9" wide crome rims in the front. it was a while back though...

QUOTE (Por2geezcelica @ Jul 21, 2011 - 2:02 PM) *
how will an 18x7.5 with a +45 offset fit? Will i need any spacers to make them sit pretty flush? Im not looking to cut or roll my fenders.



dude, you'll need 20-25mm spacers. i dont know why people choose such high offsets....plus didn't someone mention that +45 wouldn't clear?


I have 17x7.5, ET45 with 215-40-17 tires and they clear just fine, there's plenty of room. I wouldn't imagine that an extra inch of diameter would make them not fit. I cannot wait to get rid of them in the Fall, I'm getting a set of Drag DR-31, 17x8, ET35. They look exactly like Rota Torques.

Posted by: Tigawoods Jul 22, 2011 - 6:16 PM

ha your getting a rip off of the rip off?

Posted by: block Jul 22, 2011 - 9:48 PM

drag does have some nice rims though.

Posted by: celi_booster Jul 22, 2011 - 11:12 PM

QUOTE (bloodMoney @ Jul 21, 2011 - 10:05 PM) *
They look like Rota Torques

I thought about picking up a set that was 18X9.5 with a +35 offset. I may try to fit those as one of my buddies has a set on his 2J powered Cressida wink.gif


bloodMoney, try out your friends wheels and see if it fits. I hope it fits, so I can go get my self a set of 17x9 wheels!

Posted by: Por2geezcelica Jul 23, 2011 - 4:00 PM

what are the chances a 17x8.5 with a +48 offset will clear?

Posted by: Promasta Jul 24, 2011 - 12:34 AM

not a chance, but with 15 mm spacers in front and 20 mm in rear it would be nice.

Posted by: CELL_PROTOTYPE_X Jul 26, 2011 - 9:16 PM

So has anyone tried 17X9 in the front? I'm thinking about getting a set.

Posted by: 808celica Jul 26, 2011 - 11:33 PM

QUOTE (CELL_PROTOTYPE_X @ Jul 26, 2011 - 4:16 PM) *
So has anyone tried 17X9 in the front? I'm thinking about getting a set.


just run +20 on the front and +15 rear with camber

Posted by: HectortheRican Jul 27, 2011 - 12:15 AM

QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Jul 22, 2011 - 6:16 PM) *
ha your getting a rip off of the rip off?

Yep wink.gif It's easy on me wallet.

Posted by: 94_gt4 Jul 29, 2011 - 12:24 PM

alright i have a gt4, i ordered XXR 527s in gold theyre 17x8.25 with a 25 offset, do the rules still apply to the gt4s? it says 27 for the fronts with an 8" wheels, these are 8.25 so im assuming 25 will be just about flush but the rears will sink in? am i right? also im using 215/40s

Posted by: str8thugginit4ya Aug 1, 2011 - 9:28 AM

QUOTE (94_gt4 @ Jul 29, 2011 - 1:24 PM) *
alright i have a gt4, i ordered XXR 527s in gold theyre 17x8.25 with a 25 offset, do the rules still apply to the gt4s? it says 27 for the fronts with an 8" wheels, these are 8.25 so im assuming 25 will be just about flush but the rears will sink in? am i right? also im using 215/40s



Not really. You would be a LITTLE sunk in, but about a quarter inch at most, I believe. But remember, if you want it to sit flush on your wheel well, you will have to roll your rear fenders, according to the offset chart on the first post of the first page. Maybe this quarter inch might save you from having to do that. Or you could get spacers if you really want to look HellaFlush. Please post pics & reviews of the ride when the wheels are installed.



-Hope I helped, Ryan

Posted by: str8thugginit4ya Aug 1, 2011 - 9:28 AM

QUOTE (94_gt4 @ Jul 29, 2011 - 1:24 PM) *
alright i have a gt4, i ordered XXR 527s in gold theyre 17x8.25 with a 25 offset, do the rules still apply to the gt4s? it says 27 for the fronts with an 8" wheels, these are 8.25 so im assuming 25 will be just about flush but the rears will sink in? am i right? also im using 215/40s



Not really. You would be a LITTLE sunk in, but about a quarter inch at most, I believe. But remember, if you want it to sit flush on your wheel well, you will have to roll your rear fenders, according to the offset chart on the first post of the first page. Maybe this quarter inch might save you from having to do that. Or you could get spacers if you really want to look HellaFlush. Please post pics & reviews of the ride when the wheels are installed.



-Hope I helped, Ryan

Posted by: RabidTRD Aug 2, 2011 - 1:44 AM

I'm trying to figure this whole thing out... but from what I've seen, for flush with a 40 offset rim (oem GT rim or Scion TC rim) I'd need a 25mm hubcentric spacer? Is this true? I'm slightly confused by the adding and subtracting thing.

Posted by: 808celica Aug 2, 2011 - 3:22 AM

You always want a higher offset in the front for example +20 FR and +15 RR

Posted by: Ehrgeiz Sep 26, 2011 - 1:36 PM

I'm about to buy a set of 18x9,5 +34 all around. The front will poke about 6mm right? Will it even fit? Need help here guys, otherwise I'll have to start looking for other wheels. biggrin.gif

Posted by: malecrod Sep 30, 2011 - 7:48 PM

I hoping some can help me out fast. I am looking at a 17x9 wheels offset of +35, I want to know if these will fit with no issues. I'm not looking for Hellas flush etc.. Just not to have rubbing issues.
Thanks

Posted by: 808celica Oct 1, 2011 - 2:53 AM

anything wider than 8 with +35 will rub if you have OE shock design

Posted by: malecrod Oct 1, 2011 - 7:54 AM

Thanks man! You saved me much trouble.

Posted by: ChfNix Dec 7, 2011 - 9:09 PM

I am so confused! Why doesn't someone just post a formula!?!?

I tried to make my own, did I do it right?

My rim specs: 18x7.5 +40 offset.

OP numbers:
Front: 7.5" ---------- et+15mm
Rear: 7.5" ---------- et-2mm

So what I gather from this is that I take (my offset)-(number above)=(Spacer size)

So
40-15=25------Front
40-(2)=42-----Rear

This seems wrong to me based on what Ive seen others post.....

Posted by: 808celica Dec 7, 2011 - 10:48 PM

QUOTE (ChfNix @ Dec 7, 2011 - 4:09 PM) *
I am so confused! Why doesn't someone just post a formula!?!?

I tried to make my own, did I do it right?

My rim specs: 18x7.5 +40 offset.

OP numbers:
Front: 7.5" ---------- et+15mm
Rear: 7.5" ---------- et-2mm

So what I gather from this is that I take (my offset)-(number above)=(Spacer size)

So
40-15=25------Front
40-(2)=42-----Rear

This seems wrong to me based on what Ive seen others post.....



Any spacer above 35mm is too big for our cars. Best bet is to get rims with lower offsets from the start like 35 or 30. But yes you are correct

Posted by: Davesceli Jan 11, 2012 - 11:43 PM

Im looking at the XXR 527's, i was thinking doing the 17x8.25 +25 in the rear and Same size with a +35 offset up front.

I was contemplating going +25 offset up front but not sure if it will stick out. I have 17x8 +35 and they sit pretty flush up front. Any thoughts?

Last, could i get an 17x8.5 or 9 +25 in the rear?

Posted by: TRD11 Jan 12, 2012 - 9:15 PM

QUOTE (Davesceli @ Jan 12, 2012 - 12:43 AM) *
Im looking at the XXR 527's, i was thinking doing the 17x8.25 +25 in the rear and Same size with a +35 offset up front.

I was contemplating going +25 offset up front but not sure if it will stick out. I have 17x8 +35 and they sit pretty flush up front. Any thoughts?

Last, could i get an 17x8.5 or 9 +25 in the rear?


hey .... yea im gong to get the xxr 527 17x 8-2.5 wide ..... with the 25mm off set ...... all around ... they will stick out the front a bit but not a big problem as long as you putt the right tire on ... im going to put ... 215/ 40 /17 or 215/45/17 not sure yet


this will help you with tire size these are 9 wide but they would be close to 8. 2.5 http://zilvia.net/f/wheels-tires/190094-fs-6-work-emotion-cr-kai-17x9-17-silver-5x114-3-socal.html

Posted by: diegohiga Jan 13, 2012 - 10:02 PM

hello im planning one getting a extra set of rims. they are xxr522 18x9.5 ET38 and im planning to use 225/40 tires which is not too strech. ill be pretty flush and ill keep my same stance. just wanted to share this. some examples-->
all pics are 18x9.5 ET38 using 225/40 tires




Posted by: str8thugginit4ya Jan 13, 2012 - 11:53 PM

Not 100% but I believe 225 series tires would be a lot more stretched than what is showed in that pic. I may be wrong, but when I had 9.5's on my Celi, I had 255 & it looked about what is shown in the pic you posted. If not, than more stretched. I'm just going by what I had on my car. They were Bridgestones 255/35/18 on 18x9.5's.


-Hope I helped, Ryan

Posted by: 808celica Jan 14, 2012 - 2:54 AM

+38 is different between every car, you know that right??

Posted by: TRD11 Jan 14, 2012 - 1:01 PM

.

Posted by: diegohiga Jan 14, 2012 - 9:56 PM

QUOTE (808celica @ Jan 14, 2012 - 2:54 AM) *
+38 is different between every car, you know that right??

Haha of course. I just got those pics to show the wheels and how strech the tires would be. And yes they are 225/40

Posted by: dudeofchaos Jan 23, 2012 - 7:46 PM

QUOTE (str8thugginit4ya @ Jan 14, 2012 - 1:53 AM) *
Not 100% but I believe 225 series tires would be a lot more stretched than what is showed in that pic. I may be wrong, but when I had 9.5's on my Celi, I had 255 & it looked about what is shown in the pic you posted. If not, than more stretched. I'm just going by what I had on my car. They were Bridgestones 255/35/18 on 18x9.5's.


-Hope I helped, Ryan


How did you get 9.5in wheels with 255 tires on our car? I want either 245 or 255's on my Gt-Four with atleast 9in wheels. Is it doable? My goal is to have barely streched tires with a flush look, what do I need?

Posted by: Tyglon Jan 28, 2012 - 1:54 AM

Just got a set of TC rims for my celica and see someone recommends 225/45 tires. Want to do an eibach sport drop, what size spacer do I need w the drop to make the car look nice? Hella flush not necessary. Thanks for the help!!

Posted by: top_projects05 Jan 29, 2012 - 6:55 PM

I just found out my passenger side 7th gen wheels are slightly bent so I'll be in the market for a new set of wheels and rubber. A buddy of mines has a set of konig's laying around that i might pick up and use. They are 17x7 with a 42 offset, i'm dropped with tein springs, what size tires and spacers would I be looking at getting if I want to have clean look!?

Posted by: mak5603 Jan 29, 2012 - 11:18 PM

About a 25mm.

Posted by: top_projects05 Jan 30, 2012 - 2:06 PM

are my calulations correct?

rims: 17x7 with a 42 offset

front: 42-10: 32mm
rear: 42+8: 50mm

dam, if it's right then i don't see the rims working... better luck spending my money on another set.


Posted by: mak5603 Jan 30, 2012 - 2:43 PM

QUOTE (top_projects05 @ Jan 30, 2012 - 11:06 AM) *
are my calulations correct?

rims: 17x7 with a 42 offset

front: 42-10: 32mm
rear: 42+8: 50mm

dam, if it's right then i don't see the rims working... better luck spending my money on another set.


You would be better off with wider if that is what you are going for. My current wheels are unfortunately similair dimensions (17x7 +40) and i run a 25mm spacer up front and 30mm in the rear.

I was just giving you the 25mm figure as an upgrade from the sunken battleship look. Not hellaflush by any means but with coilovers it still looks pretty good. Of course, we all want wider wheels dont we... tongue.gif

Posted by: top_projects05 Jan 30, 2012 - 9:29 PM

I see. Thanks for the info. I'm not planning on going for a hellaflush look but just a flusher look. Wider would be nice but I'm pretty much getting the rims free so i can't complain. Just wanted to make sure they would work.

Posted by: str8thugginit4ya Jan 31, 2012 - 8:06 AM

QUOTE (dudeofchaos @ Jan 23, 2012 - 8:46 PM) *
QUOTE (str8thugginit4ya @ Jan 14, 2012 - 1:53 AM) *
Not 100% but I believe 225 series tires would be a lot more stretched than what is showed in that pic. I may be wrong, but when I had 9.5's on my Celi, I had 255 & it looked about what is shown in the pic you posted. If not, than more stretched. I'm just going by what I had on my car. They were Bridgestones 255/35/18 on 18x9.5's.


-Hope I helped, Ryan


How did you get 9.5in wheels with 255 tires on our car? I want either 245 or 255's on my Gt-Four with atleast 9in wheels. Is it doable? My goal is to have barely streched tires with a flush look, what do I need?



A LOT OF WORK my friend! Just kidding, it's doable. But are you willing to work for it? Rolled the crap out of my fenders & used spacers as well. The rolling process is kind of a drag. Since you're going with such a wide wheel, a lot of trial & errors go on. Well, at least for me it did. I rolled fender, put wheel back on, drove around to check for clearance & what not, then came back & started process all over until I got it how I wanted. I forgot the exact size of spacer I used, but if you really want to know I can try & find out for you. With 9" you shouldn't have too much of a problem in the rear, the fronts MIGHT need some modifications for you to fit with no rubbing issues. Just follow Harold's specs & you should be good. He does a lot of research for this site for your use, so take advantage & don't forget to say thank you. Lol.


-Ryan

QUOTE (mak5603 @ Jan 30, 2012 - 3:43 PM) *
QUOTE (top_projects05 @ Jan 30, 2012 - 11:06 AM) *
are my calulations correct?

rims: 17x7 with a 42 offset

front: 42-10: 32mm
rear: 42+8: 50mm

dam, if it's right then i don't see the rims working... better luck spending my money on another set.


You would be better off with wider if that is what you are going for. My current wheels are unfortunately similair dimensions (17x7 +40) and i run a 25mm spacer up front and 30mm in the rear.

I was just giving you the 25mm figure as an upgrade from the sunken battleship look. Not hellaflush by any means but with coilovers it still looks pretty good. Of course, we all want wider wheels dont we... :]


YEAAAA! Wider wheels = better traction! = better handling as well! GO FOR IT!


-Ryan

Posted by: dudeofchaos Jan 31, 2012 - 10:36 PM

QUOTE (str8thugginit4ya @ Jan 31, 2012 - 9:06 AM) *
QUOTE (dudeofchaos @ Jan 23, 2012 - 8:46 PM) *
QUOTE (str8thugginit4ya @ Jan 14, 2012 - 1:53 AM) *
Not 100% but I believe 225 series tires would be a lot more stretched than what is showed in that pic. I may be wrong, but when I had 9.5's on my Celi, I had 255 & it looked about what is shown in the pic you posted. If not, than more stretched. I'm just going by what I had on my car. They were Bridgestones 255/35/18 on 18x9.5's.


-Hope I helped, Ryan


How did you get 9.5in wheels with 255 tires on our car? I want either 245 or 255's on my Gt-Four with atleast 9in wheels. Is it doable? My goal is to have barely streched tires with a flush look, what do I need?



A LOT OF WORK my friend! Just kidding, it's doable. But are you willing to work for it? Rolled the crap out of my fenders & used spacers as well. The rolling process is kind of a drag. Since you're going with such a wide wheel, a lot of trial & errors go on. Well, at least for me it did. I rolled fender, put wheel back on, drove around to check for clearance & what not, then came back & started process all over until I got it how I wanted. I forgot the exact size of spacer I used, but if you really want to know I can try & find out for you. With 9" you shouldn't have too much of a problem in the rear, the fronts MIGHT need some modifications for you to fit with no rubbing issues. Just follow Harold's specs & you should be good. He does a lot of research for this site for your use, so take advantage & don't forget to say thank you. Lol.


-Ryan


Thanks man. Would you happen to know a site or somewhere I can find out how tires look on wheels E.g. I'd like to see how 245s/255s look on 9/9.5in wheels.

Posted by: Timmyface Feb 1, 2012 - 3:31 AM

http://www.tyrestretch.com/

Posted by: dudeofchaos Feb 1, 2012 - 11:02 PM

QUOTE (Timmyface @ Feb 1, 2012 - 5:31 AM) *
http://www.tyrestretch.com/


THANK YOU SO MUCH SIR. This is exactly the site I was looking for haha smile.gif
Now I know I'll be going with either 9.5 or 10in wide wheels ^^

Posted by: Rob_A Feb 3, 2012 - 1:33 PM

Mine at the mo, please excuse the fact the car hasn't been washed!

17x8 rims, running 225/45/17 and et15 up front, et5 rear with 3 degrees neg camber on the rear, 1.5 on the front.


Posted by: superman8589 Mar 2, 2012 - 3:41 PM

Hey I purchased a a set of rims for cheap.. lkq is my best friend haha, I found a set of drag dr-19s real nice they are 5x100 with offset of 45 I believe. I haven't tried put them on my. Car yet. But reading this thread it made me wonder.... Wat all will I need for it to slide in my car. Would I need spacer? If so what should I go with. My celi. Has been lowered. About 2in on some eibach springs.

Posted by: SwissFerdi Mar 2, 2012 - 3:55 PM

^ They'll fit right on.

Posted by: superman8589 Mar 2, 2012 - 4:22 PM

Sweet so I won't need spacers or anything nor have worry about anything?

Posted by: SwissFerdi Mar 2, 2012 - 4:31 PM

QUOTE (superman8589 @ Mar 2, 2012 - 4:22 PM) *
Sweet so I won't need spacers or anything nor have worry about anything?


Worry about EVERYTHING.






























Nah guy, the bolt pattern matches, so you're all set. With that size and offset, you won't have to worry about rubbing or fitment issues, just slap the suckers on.

Posted by: Ehrgeiz Mar 11, 2012 - 7:59 PM

Wow, it's so hard to pick out a set out of wheels. Got my eye on these: http://xxrwheels.com/xxr_521.shtml

Thinking about 18x8,5 ET15 with 205/40/18 up front and 18x10 ET20 back with 225/40/18. Will this work? Car will be on BC Racing coilovers, my guess is it needs a bit of neg camber (at least in the rear).

Posted by: WhipCreamCelica Mar 11, 2012 - 10:28 PM

ive been into hellaflush since the beginning of 2010, and being trying hard to make my car hellaflush, i love the stretch n poke style, currently my car is slammed on ebay coilover sleeves, but im saving up for the ground control sleeves and koni yellow struts, for moar low!, this is how she looks currently on my 5zigen gn+ wheels, 17x8.5, smile.gif

Posted by: 808celica Mar 12, 2012 - 2:05 AM

QUOTE (WhipCreamCelica @ Mar 11, 2012 - 5:28 PM) *
ive been into hellaflush since the beginning of 2010, and being trying hard to make my car hellaflush, i love the stretch n poke style, currently my car is slammed on ebay coilover sleeves, but im saving up for the ground control sleeves and koni yellow struts, for moar low!, this is how she looks currently on my 5zigen gn+ wheels, 17x8.5, smile.gif



GC coils wont get you more low than the ebay sleeves you have on now. Bite your lip and save $300 more and you can get Megan coils wink.gif Trust me these coils can slam the 6.


QUOTE (Ehrgeiz @ Mar 11, 2012 - 2:59 PM) *
Wow, it's so hard to pick out a set out of wheels. Got my eye on these: http://xxrwheels.com/xxr_521.shtml

Thinking about 18x8,5 ET15 with 205/40/18 up front and 18x10 ET20 back with 225/40/18. Will this work? Car will be on BC Racing coilovers, my guess is it needs a bit of neg camber (at least in the rear).



10" wide in the rear?? Seriously rolleyes.gif If you have a FOUR than that wouldnt be a problem. 8" wide is plenty enough for a fwd 6

Posted by: Ehrgeiz Mar 12, 2012 - 8:31 AM

I don't really care if it's "plenty" though.

Posted by: WhipCreamCelica Mar 12, 2012 - 9:26 AM

If u get 18s, u would have to run camber and fender roll like crazy

Posted by: Tigawoods Mar 13, 2012 - 8:50 AM



what happens when your original studs extend past the face of the spacer?

it seems as if you would need to get smaller studs.
so in reality the spacers arent truly \"bolt on\" correct?



EDIT
after talking to a friend I was told that most aftermarket wheels have a pocket on the hub mount face that would allow the original studs to poke out a bit

you can see the cleaner area on this rays wheel would be the pocket

Posted by: 95CelicaST Mar 13, 2012 - 12:34 PM

You'll want spacers. About 10-15mm depending on the width of the wheels.

Posted by: Tigawoods Mar 16, 2012 - 9:58 AM

small bump for anyone that has run into the issue I posted above

Posted by: diegohiga Mar 16, 2012 - 11:07 AM

QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Mar 16, 2012 - 10:58 AM) *
small bump for anyone that has run into the issue I posted above

Yes some wheels have extra 5 holes for the studs.to come out. My older rims didnt have those holes so i had to grind the studs about 3-4mm and make it flush with the spacer. Now the only studs that sick out are the ones the holds the wheel.
If you wanna do this grind the stud with the nut bolted all the way down. and when you finish grinding you will remove the nut and fix the thread by removing the nut if its damaged.
Thats what i did and worked good im using 25mm spacers on the back

Posted by: salv Mar 27, 2012 - 9:24 PM



17X9 Wrapped with 245/45/17 tires.
Staggered offset, ET 17 For the rear and ET 28 for the fronts.

Posted by: Cudi Apr 11, 2012 - 6:40 AM

Hello 6GC, hope u guys can help,

i just purchased Miro stp1 Rims, size-17x10 all around with an offset of 25, and falken ze-912 215/35zr17 Tires, pictures below...
i have alot of wheel shops around my area that are telling me its not possible to mount them,..according to the info givien in this sticky
i should be able to =) Now here is my confusion, for the front riding on 10' my offset should be et+45mm, if my offset on the rims are 25,
does this mean i need 20mm spacers to add up to +45mm,.and for the rear i will need a 5mm spacer...? not sure how to calculate the offsets.

FOR THE FRONT WHEELS ONLY **Your fronts should have been rolled from the factory. 9.0+ will probably need a bit of a roll to crush the plastic liner in a bit.
10.0" ---------- et+45mm (At this point, you will need negative camber, a good fender pull and probably better off with a +35ish offset and going with wide fenders.)

FOR THE REAR WHEELS ONLY **You need to roll your fenders for all of these.
10.0" ---------- et+30mm (Will start to cut it close with the strut. Negative camber may be needed. My best guess is you will be alright)

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Posted by: diegohiga Apr 12, 2012 - 7:13 AM

QUOTE (Cudi @ Apr 11, 2012 - 7:40 AM) *
Hello 6GC, hope u guys can help,

i just purchased Miro stp1 Rims, size-17x10 all around with an offset of 25, and falken ze-912 215/35zr17 Tires, pictures below...
i have alot of wheel shops around my area that are telling me its not possible to mount them,..according to the info givien in this sticky
i should be able to =) Now here is my confusion, for the front riding on 10' my offset should be et+45mm, if my offset on the rims are 25,
does this mean i need 20mm spacers to add up to +45mm,.and for the rear i will need a 5mm spacer...? not sure how to calculate the offsets.

FOR THE FRONT WHEELS ONLY **Your fronts should have been rolled from the factory. 9.0+ will probably need a bit of a roll to crush the plastic liner in a bit.
10.0" ---------- et+45mm (At this point, you will need negative camber, a good fender pull and probably better off with a +35ish offset and going with wide fenders.)

FOR THE REAR WHEELS ONLY **You need to roll your fenders for all of these.
10.0" ---------- et+30mm (Will start to cut it close with the strut. Negative camber may be needed. My best guess is you will be alright)

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They wont fit man sorry.. they are already et20 if you add 20mm spacers the offset will become et0 and is going to stick out more. When you add spacers the offset goes lower no higher.
They will fit but you wont be able to lower it too much because even if you roll the fenders tbe wheels will hit because they are going to be sticking out a lot! Tbey are nice wheela though!

Posted by: Tigawoods Apr 12, 2012 - 8:44 AM

i bet he could do it if he worked on the fender quite a bit, and found the sweet spot with the camber and ride height

its definitely not plug and play though

Posted by: jordisonjr Apr 12, 2012 - 9:11 AM

Your going to need some SERIOUS fender work, and lots of luck, to have this coming even close to fitting..

Posted by: Tigawoods Apr 12, 2012 - 9:26 AM

Do it

Posted by: Cudi Apr 13, 2012 - 7:05 AM

QUOTE (diegohiga @ Apr 12, 2012 - 7:13 AM) *
They wont fit man sorry.. they are already et20 if you add 20mm spacers the offset will become et0 and is going to stick out more. When you add spacers the offset goes lower no higher.
They will fit but you wont be able to lower it too much because even if you roll the fenders tbe wheels will hit because they are going to be sticking out a lot! Tbey are nice wheela though!

they are actually et25, dont know if that will change anything, but thanks alot on the info,.. i guess the image i had in my head of what they would look like on my car isnt possible. so i wouldnt even be able to ride with them with oem suspension...?


QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Apr 12, 2012 - 8:44 AM) *
i bet he could do it if he worked on the fender quite a bit, and found the sweet spot with the camber and ride height

its definitely not plug and play though

yea i now see that its not gonna be easy and a lil more costly than the rims themselves..
any ideas where i might be able to get some camber kits ?


QUOTE (jordisonjr @ Apr 12, 2012 - 9:11 AM) *
Your going to need some SERIOUS fender work, and lots of luck, to have this coming even close to fitting..

im gonna have to search and find a good shop for this.. question is, how much can i pull a fender before it starts looking ridiculous..

QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Apr 12, 2012 - 9:26 AM) *
Do it

LOL, this made me laugh, im gonna try my best.. very determined !

Posted by: Tigawoods Apr 13, 2012 - 7:13 AM

just pull it and find out!

I was talking about this with Garin another member...I am not sure if you have the resources/time/huevos
to cut the fender and put custom over fenders on the car.
I was always curious to see what thatd look like

Posted by: jordisonjr Apr 13, 2012 - 8:47 AM

Can you even get celica overfenders? lol

Posted by: Cudi Apr 13, 2012 - 9:09 AM

QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Apr 13, 2012 - 7:13 AM) *
just pull it and find out!

I was talking about this with Garin another member...I am not sure if you have the resources/time/huevos
to cut the fender and put custom over fenders on the car.
I was always curious to see what thatd look like



QUOTE (jordisonjr @ Apr 13, 2012 - 8:47 AM) *
Can you even get celica overfenders? lol


maybe i will ride fenderless,.. jk
but today i will put them on and take down some measurments and see what are my options,..
ill post up pics for suggestions...

Posted by: Cudi Apr 13, 2012 - 9:13 AM

any successful 9.5" or 9" ? jus wondering, would like to see some pics ..

Posted by: Timmyface Apr 13, 2012 - 9:12 PM

Just to verify what im understanding,

How would:
18x8.5 +35 Front
18x9.5 +35 Rear Sit? (I can always add a 5mm spacer)

I'd like the rims to be as flush as possible, no need for massive poke.
Will they clear my BC Coilovers?

Posted by: RabidTRD Apr 16, 2012 - 5:28 PM

My Enkei's are 7" wide and +35. They sit in about an inch in the rear and quarter inch to half in the front. I think 8.5 and 9.5 would be perfect. The only place I can see an issue with is inside near the strut.

Posted by: Timmyface Apr 16, 2012 - 5:52 PM

Yeah that was my main concern, but I think my coilovers are a lot thinner than the oem so it should be fine. Thinking of 18x8+25 now haha

Posted by: RabidTRD Apr 16, 2012 - 5:53 PM

QUOTE (Timmyface @ Apr 16, 2012 - 6:52 PM) *
Yeah that was my main concern, but I think my coilovers are a lot thinner than the oem so it should be fine. Thinking of 18x8+25 now haha

That should be pretty flush for all four. You may need spacers for the rear.

Posted by: Timmyface Apr 16, 2012 - 7:07 PM

Edit: 18x9+25 for rear haha. Rims that fit are just hard to come by

Posted by: RabidTRD Apr 16, 2012 - 7:10 PM

Wait... my Enkeis are -35.... *confused*

Posted by: mak5603 Apr 16, 2012 - 7:17 PM

QUOTE (RabidTRD @ Apr 16, 2012 - 5:10 PM) *
Wait... my Enkeis are -35.... *confused*


No, +35.

Negative offset is some EXTREME dish.

Posted by: HectortheRican Apr 16, 2012 - 7:55 PM

QUOTE (Cudi @ Apr 13, 2012 - 8:13 AM) *
any successful 9.5" or 9" ? jus wondering, would like to see some pics ..


This guy has 18x9.5 wheels. Of course, he has a GT-Four... dunno how different the procedure would be for SuperStrut. But it's worth a PM

http://www.6gc.net/celicas/st205-14183

Posted by: trdproven Apr 16, 2012 - 8:05 PM

with natural camber you can fit pretty wide wheels, for sure up to 9.5 but you gotta figure out the offset, plus you can still pull if you want to. 7th gens are running 9.0-9.5-10 with roll and pull, with 10-20 offsets at the lowest ive seen. 7th gen clubs seem to be more into flush scene than the 6th gens. i have both gens, and our gens seem to have lots of room when I look at both cars.

Posted by: diegohiga Apr 17, 2012 - 12:13 AM

This is flush lol 18x8.5 et23 rear et33 front

Posted by: WhipCreamCelica Apr 17, 2012 - 12:16 AM

QUOTE (diegohiga @ Apr 17, 2012 - 1:13 AM) *
This is flush lol 18x8.5 et23 rear et33 front

what does et23 mean? cuz i have those same wheels in 17x8.5. 5zigen gn+

Posted by: diegohiga Apr 17, 2012 - 12:22 AM

what does et23 mean? cuz i have those same wheels in 17x8.5. 5zigen gn+
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Offset the offset of these wheels are 48 but i have 25mm spacers on the back and 15mm on the front that
makes the offset of my wheels 23 on the back and 33 on.the front

Posted by: trdproven Apr 17, 2012 - 2:11 AM

^ sounds like you can run wider wheels, i assume your camber is not hella negative?

Posted by: diegohiga Apr 17, 2012 - 11:09 AM

QUOTE (trdproven @ Apr 17, 2012 - 3:11 AM) *
^ sounds like you can run wider wheels, i assume your camber is not hella negative?

Yeah i could use 9.5 wheels high.a higher.offset but i think 8.5 wide is good enough. And yes it is negative. My tires show the camber wear a lot.

Posted by: diegohiga Apr 17, 2012 - 11:13 AM

QUOTE (Timmyface @ Apr 13, 2012 - 10:12 PM) *
Just to verify what im understanding,

How would:
18x8.5 +35 Front
18x9.5 +35 Rear Sit? (I can always add a 5mm spacer)

I'd like the rims to be as flush as possible, no need for massive poke.
Will they clear my BC Coilovers?


I would get 18x8.5+35 all around and get 15mm spacers.for the back. Will sit pretty flush!

Posted by: Cudi Apr 19, 2012 - 6:37 AM

QUOTE (HectortheRican @ Apr 16, 2012 - 7:55 PM) *
This guy has 18x9.5 wheels. Of course, he has a GT-Four... dunno how different the procedure would be for SuperStrut. But it's worth a PM

http://www.6gc.net/celicas/st205-14183


thats jus a PERFECT ride,.. thanks

Here are some pics of 17x10 on my ST.
BTW, i totally disagree with the look, rims are off until coils and cambers are found and bought. ..where?






Posted by: Tigawoods Apr 19, 2012 - 7:31 AM

jeebus! look at that gap!

Posted by: SwissFerdi Apr 19, 2012 - 8:17 AM

Does look better than I thought. Drop that sucker!

Posted by: Cudi Apr 20, 2012 - 5:47 AM

QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Apr 19, 2012 - 7:31 AM) *
jeebus! look at that gap!

JEEBUS... <-- LOL

QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Apr 19, 2012 - 8:17 AM) *
Does look better than I thought. Drop that sucker!

Workin on it,.. soon ! =]

i saw the thread for coils, is there one for cambers ?

Posted by: WhipCreamCelica Apr 20, 2012 - 11:03 AM

QUOTE (Cudi @ Apr 19, 2012 - 6:37 AM) *
QUOTE (HectortheRican @ Apr 16, 2012 - 7:55 PM) *
This guy has 18x9.5 wheels. Of course, he has a GT-Four... dunno how different the procedure would be for SuperStrut. But it's worth a PM

http://www.6gc.net/celicas/st205-14183


thats jus a PERFECT ride,.. thanks

Here are some pics of 17x10 on my ST.
BTW, i totally disagree with the look, rims are off until coils and cambers are found and bought. ..where?







Sick! im going for the hellaflush look as well. what dimensions are your wheels? what are your tire specs?

Posted by: smkr3w Apr 20, 2012 - 6:11 PM

QUOTE (Cudi @ Apr 20, 2012 - 5:47 AM) *
i saw the thread for coils, is there one for cambers ?

you don't just purchase camber (per-say) laugh.giflaugh.gif
camber is the measurement of the slant/incline of the wheels, as in the top of wheel leans in toward the car and the rear sticks out away from the car.

^like said before that when you lower a car the geometry of the suspension as altered therefore camber is created/changed
(elementary explanation but you should get the gist)

that being said you can buy CAMBER BOLTS for our cars, which are used to correct for over negative/positive. So in a sense you could uses the bolt to purposely ADD camber biggrin.gif



And back to your setup, very nice thumbsup.gif should be sick once lowered

Posted by: 808celica Apr 21, 2012 - 3:46 AM

QUOTE (smkr3w @ Apr 20, 2012 - 1:11 PM) *
QUOTE (Cudi @ Apr 20, 2012 - 5:47 AM) *
i saw the thread for coils, is there one for cambers ?

you don't just purchase camber (per-say) laugh.giflaugh.gif
camber is the measurement of the slant/incline of the wheels, as in the top of wheel leans in toward the car and the rear sticks out away from the car.

^like said before that when you lower a car the geometry of the suspension as altered therefore camber is created/changed
(elementary explanation but you should get the gist)

that being said you can buy CAMBER BOLTS for our cars, which are used to correct for over negative/positive. So in a sense you could uses the bolt to purposely ADD camber biggrin.gif



And back to your setup, very nice thumbsup.gif should be sick once lowered


and if that doesnt do you'd have to heat things and bang them to get even more camber like me laugh.gif

then if that still doesnt get you enough then well.....the fender will just eat tire

Posted by: trdproven Apr 21, 2012 - 7:07 AM

whats the offset on that red celica 17x10?

Posted by: smkr3w Apr 21, 2012 - 1:45 PM

QUOTE (trdproven @ Apr 21, 2012 - 8:07 AM) *
whats the offset on that red celica 17x10?


QUOTE (Cudi @ Apr 11, 2012 - 7:40 AM) *
Miro stp1 Rims, size-17x10 all around with an offset of 25

Posted by: Cudi Apr 21, 2012 - 9:42 PM

QUOTE (WhipCreamCelica @ Apr 20, 2012 - 11:03 AM) *
QUOTE (Cudi @ Apr 19, 2012 - 6:37 AM) *
QUOTE (HectortheRican @ Apr 16, 2012 - 7:55 PM) *
This guy has 18x9.5 wheels. Of course, he has a GT-Four... dunno how different the procedure would be for SuperStrut. But it's worth a PM

http://www.6gc.net/celicas/st205-14183


thats jus a PERFECT ride,.. thanks

Here are some pics of 17x10 on my ST.
BTW, i totally disagree with the look, rims are off until coils and cambers are found and bought. ..where?







Sick! im going for the hellaflush look as well. what dimensions are your wheels? what are your tire specs?



QUOTE (smkr3w @ Apr 20, 2012 - 6:11 PM) *
QUOTE (Cudi @ Apr 20, 2012 - 5:47 AM) *
i saw the thread for coils, is there one for cambers ?

you don't just purchase camber (per-say) laugh.giflaugh.gif
camber is the measurement of the slant/incline of the wheels, as in the top of wheel leans in toward the car and the rear sticks out away from the car.

^like said before that when you lower a car the geometry of the suspension as altered therefore camber is created/changed
(elementary explanation but you should get the gist)

that being said you can buy CAMBER BOLTS for our cars, which are used to correct for over negative/positive. So in a sense you could uses the bolt to purposely ADD camber biggrin.gif



And back to your setup, very nice thumbsup.gif should be sick once lowered



QUOTE (trdproven @ Apr 21, 2012 - 7:07 AM) *
whats the offset on that red celica 17x10?



QUOTE (smkr3w @ Apr 21, 2012 - 1:45 PM) *
QUOTE (trdproven @ Apr 21, 2012 - 8:07 AM) *
whats the offset on that red celica 17x10?


QUOTE (Cudi @ Apr 11, 2012 - 7:40 AM) *
Miro stp1 Rims, size-17x10 all around with an offset of 25



Miro stp1 17x10 rims falken ze-912 215/35 zr17
Thanks alot guys, I didn't have any info or know anything about the cambers..


Offset is +25

Posted by: Timmyface Apr 29, 2012 - 11:18 PM

Depending if the Miro 111 have room for a spacer poke, I'm really considering getting them in:
18x8.5 +35 all round. +20mm spacer in the rear.

How's this sound? What size tyres to fit them in?

Posted by: trdproven Apr 30, 2012 - 1:35 AM

sounds like when you natural camber, it will still come in a bit with the angle. even sounds good if you cut/rolled your lip for slamness.

Posted by: CELL_PROTOTYPE_X May 5, 2012 - 8:16 AM

Question for those of you running 17x9 rims in the front. Offset guide says 33 is flush but the rims I'm thinking about getting come 42 or 30. What I'm wondering is if it would be better to go 42 with a 5mm spacer or go 30 no spacer, and have them stick out just slightly. Are there any clearance issues with the stock strut? I see guys on here running 9+ rims in the front but am not sure what suspension set up they're running.

Posted by: dudeofchaos May 5, 2012 - 3:40 PM

QUOTE (CELL_PROTOTYPE_X @ May 5, 2012 - 9:16 AM) *
Question for those of you running 17x9 rims in the front. Offset guide says 33 is flush but the rims I'm thinking about getting come 42 or 30. What I'm wondering is if it would be better to go 42 with a 5mm spacer or go 30 no spacer, and have them stick out just slightly. Are there any clearance issues with the stock strut? I see guys on here running 9+ rims in the front but am not sure what suspension set up they're running.


I'm not so sure, but it will probably depend on how low you are. I think that if you get et30 and you are dropped and want a flush look, you might need some negative camber. If you go with the et42 and 5mm spacer you will be almost flush to the fender without needing any camber. But please correct me if I'm wrong.

Posted by: CELL_PROTOTYPE_X May 19, 2012 - 3:14 PM

New set of rims installed on my car! I took the car for a quick drive around my neighborhood and didn't experience any rubbing, but I'm sure any major bumps would cause the fenders / wheel well plastic to rub a bit.

New Rim specs : 17X9 et30
Tire specs : Falken 225/45/17

Old Rim specs : 17X7 et45

Car specs : Lowered maybe 1.5 - 2in on Tein lowering springs.






Posted by: mak5603 May 19, 2012 - 3:17 PM

Nice.

I want 17x9's bad!

Posted by: jordisonjr May 19, 2012 - 4:19 PM

Damn you don't rub and tis not even rolled?

Posted by: CELL_PROTOTYPE_X May 19, 2012 - 8:56 PM

No rubbing that I noticed, but then again, I only drove through my neighborhood which has very small speed bumps. This car isn't my daily driver so I'm not too concerned but I'll probably end up rolling my rear fenders and pulling the fronts a bit if I run into issues.

Posted by: sarintr May 25, 2012 - 10:10 PM

My is ST204. I would like to know the fitting wheel spec; I am looking to buy ( 17''/ 8'', 5x100, et+35 ) all 4. This spec fitted or not, Thank you so much for your advise .

Posted by: diegohiga May 26, 2012 - 9:01 AM

QUOTE (sarintr @ May 25, 2012 - 11:10 PM) *
My is ST204. I would like to know the fitting wheel spec; I am looking to buy ( 17''/ 8'', 5x100, et+35 ) all 4. This spec fitted or not, Thank you so much for your advise .

Yes it will, but id you are looking the flush look you will need spacers

Posted by: Ehrgeiz Jun 15, 2012 - 11:49 AM

Picking up my wheels next week. They're 18x9 ET28 front and 18x9 ET23 rear. I'll run a 10mm spacer in the rear and use 215/40/18 all around. Car will be lowered with BC Racing BR series coilovers.

Pics soon!

Posted by: mak5603 Jun 15, 2012 - 12:18 PM

Sounds like an awesome setup. I look forward to pics.

Posted by: Ehrgeiz Jun 15, 2012 - 4:04 PM

Hehe, I can't slam it too much though.. Lotsa speedbumpers over here.

Posted by: diegohiga Jun 15, 2012 - 7:13 PM

QUOTE (Ehrgeiz @ Jun 15, 2012 - 5:04 PM) *
Hehe, I can't slam it too much though.. Lotsa speedbumpers over here.

Dont forget to roll your fender or they will eat your tiress

Posted by: Ehrgeiz Jun 15, 2012 - 9:06 PM

Yeah, I'm on it. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Lil-Joe101 Jun 15, 2012 - 9:08 PM

Toilets clogged, still got more flushin ta do, lol



215/40/R17

Posted by: delusionz Jun 16, 2012 - 5:30 AM

17x8 et23 with -1 deg camber and guards rolled, 225/45/17 seems to be the magic numbers for my st205 with bc coilovers

Posted by: Cuts_the_Pilot Jun 25, 2012 - 7:01 PM

Anyone ran 9.5" on a 6th gen? pics? modds required?
My guards have already been lipped and rolled years ago, and yes I have suspension work and currently neg 3 camber.

I'm looking to get some wheels, and I'm tossing up between 18x8.5 and 18x9.5 all round, wheel make and model will remain a secret but they are the only two widths available and the offsets available are

18x8.5 are: +45 +38, +30mm
18x9.5 are +12, +20, +30 +38mm

cheers.

Posted by: hzawde Jun 25, 2012 - 8:14 PM

im thinkin of getting some xxr 530s for my st205, will 17X7 5x100/5x114.3 et35 fit ??
and what tires should i get

thanks

Posted by: Ehrgeiz Jun 26, 2012 - 5:41 AM

They'll fit.. But I recommend going a little wider if I were you. Just for the extra beef. smile.gif

Posted by: diegohiga Jun 27, 2012 - 12:38 AM

Yes go wider like 17x8 (225/45/17 tires) or 17x8.5 (235/45/17 tires) leave the 7 wide for scooters.
Another option 18x8 (225/40/18 tires) or 18x8.5 (235/40/18 tires)
Offset 35 is perfect dont get a higher offset than 35.

Posted by: hzawde Jun 27, 2012 - 8:38 AM

ok well these are my options right now


XXR 530 17x8.25 Flat Black 5-100/5-114.3 [+25mm]

XXR 530 17x8.25 Flat Black 5-100/5-114.3 [+35mm]

XXR 530 17x7 Flat Black 5-100/5-114.3 [+35mm]

XXR 530 17x9.75 Flat Black 4-100/4-114.3 [+25mm]

Posted by: diegohiga Jun 27, 2012 - 9:05 AM

QUOTE (hzawde @ Jun 27, 2012 - 9:38 AM) *
ok well these are my options right now


XXR 530 17x8.25 Flat Black 5-100/5-114.3 [+25mm]

XXR 530 17x8.25 Flat Black 5-100/5-114.3 [+35mm]

XXR 530 17x7 Flat Black 5-100/5-114.3 [+35mm]

XXR 530 17x9.75 Flat Black 4-100/4-114.3 [+25mm]


17x7 not wide enough
17x9.75 too big and offset too high. Front wheels will stick out and our cars are 5x100 not 4x100/4x114.3
I would go with the 17x8.25 +35 or 17x8.25 +25 both will fit fine but the +25 will be more flush to the fenders.

Posted by: Ehrgeiz Jun 27, 2012 - 1:49 PM

Would you consider 18's? Because the 530's are available in 18x8,75 +35 for the front (might need a small spacer), and 18x8,75 +20 for the rear. That would look great.

Posted by: hzawde Jun 27, 2012 - 6:13 PM

alright thanks everyone, i thinkk ill stick with the 17s so which tires should i get ? for 17x8.25 25offset

Posted by: diegohiga Jun 27, 2012 - 6:30 PM

QUOTE (hzawde @ Jun 27, 2012 - 7:13 PM) *
alright thanks everyone, i thinkk ill stick with the 17s so which tires should i get ? for 17x8.25 25offset

225 would be just a little streched but looks good or 235/45/17

Posted by: veadp Aug 2, 2012 - 3:16 PM

Just a quick question...

Can a 17x7.5 - ET42 fit on a ST205?

I am thinking of using 225/45/17 Tires.

I want a Flush look, so what would be required?

Posted by: Tigawoods Aug 2, 2012 - 3:52 PM

et42 will be very sunken in. 25mm spacers in the front would make it flush but for the rear you'd need around 30mm+ or so

Posted by: Promasta Aug 2, 2012 - 8:09 PM

much better going with 17x8 et35, there are lots available. then if you want flush you could do 10 mm spacer front and 25 mm rear.

Posted by: HectortheRican Aug 3, 2012 - 10:32 AM

QUOTE (Promasta @ Aug 2, 2012 - 8:09 PM) *
much better going with 17x8 et35, there are lots available. then if you want flush you could do 10 mm spacer front and 25 mm rear.

x2 This is really one of the best options for us, unless you want to make the change to 5x114.3. Then the mother lode of width and offset combinations shall be unlocked.

Posted by: yellowchinaman Aug 3, 2012 - 2:07 PM

Question!
Does anyone know the depth difference between the front and rear on a stock Gen 6?

Posted by: Tigawoods Aug 4, 2012 - 8:24 AM

my best guess is 10mm

Posted by: WhipCreamCelica Aug 4, 2012 - 8:39 AM

Hectors right! I test fitted my friends xxr 521s the other day. he's 5x114.3 so it didn't fit. but we put itvas close to the studs as possible and slowly lowered the car. didn't go all the way down since the car was on the tire. but these were 18x10.5 in the rear with crazy low offset. wish I was 5x114.3 so I could buy them.
but I would have run crazy negative camber so I could actually be as low as I am right now

Posted by: yellowchinaman Aug 4, 2012 - 3:25 PM

QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Aug 4, 2012 - 9:24 AM) *
my best guess is 10mm


Can someone confirm this?

Basically if you have had a set of wheels front and rears with different offsets and they both fit perfectly then I want to know the difference.
eg:
Front ET 25 and Rear ET 40 so difference it 15mm.

edit

First post just confirmed it.
at 6.5 wide,
front is 0
rear is 15

so difference is 15mm.

Now whats the best way to space the rears for 15mm? Use studed spacers? Then the nuts won't sit deep enough and will obstruct the alloy?
Hammer out the studs and use longer ones and have a 15 spacer? Can I do that without removing the hub?

Posted by: mak5603 Aug 6, 2012 - 6:19 PM

10mm is a really good estimate, that would be my guess as well.

Posted by: Tigawoods Aug 6, 2012 - 7:25 PM

QUOTE (yellowchinaman @ Aug 4, 2012 - 4:25 PM) *
QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Aug 4, 2012 - 9:24 AM) *
my best guess is 10mm


Can someone confirm this?

Basically if you have had a set of wheels front and rears with different offsets and they both fit perfectly then I want to know the difference.
eg:
Front ET 25 and Rear ET 40 so difference it 15mm.

edit

First post just confirmed it.
at 6.5 wide,
front is 0
rear is 15

so difference is 15mm.

Now whats the best way to space the rears for 15mm? Use studed spacers? Then the nuts won't sit deep enough and will obstruct the alloy?
Hammer out the studs and use longer ones and have a 15 spacer? Can I do that without removing the hub?

You could use either bolt on spacers or the kind with extended studs. Replacing studs is a pain but you dont have to remove the hub. You can do bolt on. The stock studs may potrude a little bit, depending on the wheel, there is usually holes or spaces creating room for those protruding studs

Posted by: frotou Aug 9, 2012 - 5:47 PM

I'm on the way to proper stance on my car.....







Results soon !

Posted by: smkr3w Aug 9, 2012 - 5:48 PM

nice!
5x114 conversion?

Posted by: Tigawoods Aug 9, 2012 - 7:27 PM

Gram light 57S Pro or G-Games?

Posted by: 95CelicaST Aug 10, 2012 - 8:21 AM

QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Aug 9, 2012 - 5:27 PM) *
Gram light 57S Pro or G-Games?


From his profile:
QUOTE
-g-games 77 19x8 and 19x9 wheels


Posted by: frotou Aug 10, 2012 - 11:43 AM

QUOTE (smkr3w @ Aug 9, 2012 - 10:48 PM) *
nice!
5x114 conversion?


I have think about it , but I already got rotor hats for big brake kit in 5x100 . What I've done is a change for longer studs .... 12x1.25 ! I get also spacer for front and rear + camber bolts to see what I can do . 5x114.3 conversion would be awesome just for the wheels choice , price , desing .... Will need full custom to get what I want in 5x100 .

QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Aug 10, 2012 - 12:27 AM) *
Gram light 57S Pro or G-Games?


G-games 77viao 19x9 rear and 19x8 front

I reinstall the hubs later this night to see the fitment .

Posted by: frotou Aug 11, 2012 - 7:49 PM

Much better , but I will need tire stretch and more camber to get what I want .













Getting that kind of fitment on 19'' is really a challenge for me .

Posted by: psyxo69 Aug 12, 2012 - 12:07 PM

nice project wink.gif
Come oooon stop teasing us give us a photo of the full car tongue.gif

Posted by: JAYA Aug 16, 2012 - 5:02 AM

Hi Guys

Recently got some Volk C - Ultra wheels for my st202 1998, specs are as follows:

17x7
pcd: 5x100
offset: +48

Needing help with what size spacers I am needing to make the wheels sit flush with my guards, any help would be appreciated.

Cheers





Posted by: Timmyface Aug 16, 2012 - 6:18 AM

To be flush flush, you will need a:
38mm Spacer in the front
56mm spacer in the rear

Not realllllly a reliable setup there, should have looked for a wider wheel and lower offset

Posted by: Tigawoods Aug 16, 2012 - 6:19 AM

25mm spacers. You wont be flush but it will be good enough. dont go more than that

Posted by: JAYA Aug 16, 2012 - 4:57 PM

Thanks,

Posted by: JAYA Aug 16, 2012 - 6:19 PM

So a wheel that is 17x7 with an offset of 35p, should be close to flush?

Posted by: Timmyface Aug 16, 2012 - 6:31 PM

17x7 +10 Offset would be flush, and you'd still want an 18mm Spacer in the rear

But if you go +35 and add 25mm spacers all round, you will have the +10 up front, and be 18mm off in the rear.
Depends if you want FLUSH FLUSH. if not, the +35 with 20mm spacer in the front, 25mm spacer in the rear would be sweet

Posted by: JAYA Aug 16, 2012 - 6:44 PM

Ok sweet, so lets say a 17x8 with an offset of 35p, what does that leave us with? Ideally looking for a wheel that will bring me flush with the guard without using a spacer if that's possible,

Posted by: JAYA Aug 16, 2012 - 6:55 PM

Timmyface: your car is awesome, looking at getting my wheels pretty much just like yours re fitment and looks, what have you done to get them sitting like that?

Posted by: Timmyface Aug 16, 2012 - 6:58 PM

Basically, if you look at the first post, you will see the guide there:

FRONT WHEELS
7.0" ---------- et+10mm
7.5" ---------- et+15mm
8.0" ---------- et+22mm
8.5" ---------- et+27mm
9.0" ---------- et+33mm

Etc.
Basically, you want wheels with that number as your offset. The rear wheels are average of 15mm more sunk in than the front.
You can either get Staggered wheels, or throw a 15mm spacer on the rear to even it out.

17x8 You want a +22 offset.. if not, Minus the offset you have, from this number, meaning you would need a 13mm Spacer.

Edit: I'm running 18x8 +30 Up front, and 18x9 +30 in the rear. I have added a 5mm spacer in the rear, but am looking to add roughly 8mm all round.

Posted by: JAYA Aug 16, 2012 - 7:04 PM

Thanks heaps, didn't quite get the first post at first, but now that you have explained it a bit I am starting to get it,

Cheers

Posted by: Timmyface Aug 16, 2012 - 7:07 PM

tongue.gif don't worry man, took me quite a while to understand it too.
You also have to counter in your ride height, and tyres etc.

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