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post Aug 4, 2006 - 11:52 PM
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Ok so i've been meaning to post this for awhile now, but haven't had the chance till now. Well i've heard a lot of people having problems with thier convertible top opening and closing. And usually the motor is still good, except there is a part inside that is broken. What happened with mine was that one of the sides stopped working and my convertible top needed assistance opening and closing. But the motor was still good, cause it still made noise when i pressed the button. The problem was a pin inside. So if you are having this problem, and your motor still sounds good, then try this, and it may solve your problem...

First you'll need to remove your convertible top motor from which ever side isn't working properly. So first remove the bottom part of the seats, they just pop right out, they are held in by two clips in the front. Then you will need to remove the rear plastic panel on the side your trying to get to. Don't worry bout the seat belts, you can leave those attached, cause you just need to get the panel out of the way. After those are out of your way, You should be able to see the convertible top motors. They are held in by 4 10mm bolts, but you will also need to remove the rear speakers and cut a zip tie before you can unplug the wiring clip and remove the motor. After you remove the motor, you will need to take off 4 hex bolts connecting the motor to a black box that has gears in it. After you take that apart, it should look like this...

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Now we can take a look at the problem. There is supposed to be a pin that keeps the gear moving when the motor moves. When this pin breaks, the motor will just keep spinning, but it has nothing left to turn the gear. This pin seems to break off since it happened to both of my motors. Im guessing its like a fail safe device or something, if there's too much stress put on the motor is just breaks the pin, so you dont burn out the motor? Thats my guess. Or maybe the pins just suck. Well anyways, it needed to be replaced. Here's a picture of the Motor with the broken pin removed...

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Here's a picture of what was left of the pin...

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Here's where your gunna need to improvise cuase i couldn't find a part number for the pin. I ended up cutting drill bits in half and using the solid end as the pin, whatever get's it done right? haha Im guessing you could use any pin as long as it fits in the hole pretty snug. I hope this helps smile.gif

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- MaskedMan   Convertible top motors   Aug 4, 2006 - 11:52 PM
- - CelicaBuddy   ahhh awesome! maybe i can find out whats mak...   Aug 6, 2006 - 3:12 PM
- - jgreening   Great post. What keeps the pin from falling out? ...   Aug 6, 2006 - 7:48 PM
- - bobsurunk   Masked Man...You ARE the man...By a weird coincide...   Aug 6, 2006 - 8:38 PM
- - XS4lv1Truch0x   can you get a better picture of the pin??? its not...   Aug 6, 2006 - 11:59 PM
|- - psilly   QUOTE(XS4lv1Truch0x @ Aug 6, 2006 - 11...   Aug 8, 2006 - 9:57 AM
|- - JonMarkos   QUOTE(psilly @ Aug 8, 2006 - 9:57 AM...   Aug 15, 2006 - 3:18 AM
|- - psilly   QUOTE(JonMarkos @ Aug 15, 2006 - 3:1...   Aug 15, 2006 - 9:42 AM
- - madmods   please sticky this!   Aug 12, 2006 - 6:27 PM
|- - aslearvert   QUOTE(madmods @ Aug 12, 2006 - 6:27 ...   Mar 28, 2007 - 11:38 AM
|- - CelicaBuddy   QUOTE(aslearvert @ Mar 28, 2007 - 9...   Aug 19, 2007 - 8:19 PM
- - MaskedMan   i cant get anymore pictures as of right now, cuase...   Aug 12, 2006 - 6:40 PM
|- - psilly   ok, they're not roll pins, they just look that...   Aug 15, 2006 - 2:48 AM
|- - match220   QUOTE (psilly @ Aug 14, 2006 - 9:48 ...   Aug 25, 2009 - 4:46 AM
- - MaskedMan   those were some nice tips psilly. yeah the pins h...   Aug 15, 2006 - 3:04 AM
- - nightryder   awesome, f'ing awesome! Just pulled both ...   Aug 19, 2006 - 8:59 PM
- - njccmd2002   awesome topic ever, used drill bits made of titani...   Mar 24, 2007 - 4:57 PM
|- - MaskedMan   QUOTE(njccmd2002 @ Mar 24, 2007 - 2...   Mar 28, 2007 - 1:00 AM
- - ecaddiction   I cannot get the pin out for the life of me. I tri...   May 21, 2007 - 9:43 AM
- - JonMarkos   At first I did, but then I bought an actual tap an...   May 21, 2007 - 10:36 AM
- - maxpower_hd   I took a small punch and ground down the end so it...   Jun 19, 2007 - 8:21 AM
- - toyo6gc   after reading this i think im goin to go pull my c...   Jul 1, 2007 - 10:52 PM
- - njccmd2002   I made my pins out of titanium drill bits, you can...   Jul 2, 2007 - 9:30 AM
- - MaskedMan   I'll try to revise this or maybe make a better...   Aug 20, 2007 - 10:57 PM
- - shaunrichard   Hello. I just recently found this post on a Google...   Mar 13, 2008 - 2:00 PM
- - MaskedMan   Always paying attention to my fellow vert owners ...   Mar 13, 2008 - 9:17 PM
|- - shaunrichard   Yeah, I find myself saying that a lot. After my po...   Mar 14, 2008 - 3:48 AM
- - shaunrichard   I just re-installed my motors and they work like a...   Mar 14, 2008 - 3:23 PM
- - MaskedMan   Glad to hear I could be of help. Thank you for po...   Mar 15, 2008 - 4:12 AM
- - luisitol   this info is awesome. Gonna fix my top this weeke...   May 19, 2008 - 12:03 AM
- - D-Man   I recently did one of theese for a friend. Luckily...   May 19, 2008 - 10:15 AM
- - MaskedMan   2 years later and I still haven't updated this...   May 20, 2008 - 12:40 AM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (MaskedMan @ May 20, 2008 - 1...   May 20, 2008 - 6:35 AM
- - luisitol   I took the motors out and the pins were the proble...   Jul 7, 2008 - 7:40 PM
- - redhotpepper   I'm new here and I could kiss your feet. I ju...   Jul 11, 2008 - 10:50 PM
- - dgbldr   Tapping out the pins is not a problem for me, but ...   Sep 25, 2008 - 1:29 PM
- - kbprice   Ok so I got everything apart and one side had the ...   Oct 11, 2008 - 7:37 PM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (kbprice @ Oct 11, 2008 - 8:37...   Oct 11, 2008 - 8:49 PM
- - kbprice   Upon further investigation I think the inertia swi...   Oct 12, 2008 - 9:49 AM
- - kbprice   Last and final update. Ok for all you Celica conv...   Oct 14, 2008 - 7:35 PM
|- - redhotpepper   QUOTE (kbprice @ Oct 14, 2008 - 7:35...   Apr 16, 2009 - 12:24 PM
- - redhotpepper   My second pin sheared last fall and, since the wea...   Apr 16, 2009 - 12:29 PM
- - Beano   Hi I'm busy working on the motor and pin probl...   Aug 25, 2009 - 2:47 AM
|- - MaskedMan   QUOTE (Beano @ Aug 25, 2009 - 12:47 ...   Aug 29, 2009 - 4:13 AM
- - luisitol   Yuo when I pulled my motors apart they had roll pi...   Aug 25, 2009 - 11:45 AM
- - CelicaRacer97   Geez why am I just NOW seeing this post???? I was...   Sep 5, 2009 - 7:49 PM
|- - MaskedMan   QUOTE (CelicaRacer97 @ Sep 5, 2009 - 5...   Sep 6, 2009 - 7:33 PM
- - xrav22   I had large objects in the trunk and slammed on my...   Sep 12, 2009 - 10:12 AM
- - Beano   Hi - I too have this prob - except that in my case...   Sep 18, 2009 - 8:39 AM
|- - match220   QUOTE (Beano @ Sep 18, 2009 - 3:39 A...   Sep 18, 2009 - 9:32 PM
- - sh0x   I didn't think mine could be the pin. I took t...   Sep 23, 2009 - 8:48 PM
- - m2736185   I guess noone has a write up on how to refurb thes...   Jun 7, 2010 - 7:50 PM
- - njccmd2002   you can get them on ebay sometimes, refurbishing t...   Jun 7, 2010 - 8:17 PM
- - CelicaRacer97   QUOTE (MaskedMan @ Sep 6, 2009 - 6:3...   Feb 20, 2011 - 8:06 AM
- - njccmd2002   its really not a big deal to do, takes maybe about...   Feb 20, 2011 - 7:33 PM
- - MaskedMan   Yeah, it's really easy to do, and like njccmd2...   Feb 20, 2011 - 11:31 PM
|- - match220   QUOTE (MaskedMan @ Feb 20, 2011 - 6...   Feb 20, 2011 - 11:49 PM
- - MaskedMan   If the motors are in plain sight, then they are pr...   Feb 20, 2011 - 11:54 PM
|- - match220   QUOTE (MaskedMan @ Feb 20, 2011 - 6...   Feb 21, 2011 - 12:02 AM
- - MaskedMan   I actually live in California, but it would be awe...   Feb 21, 2011 - 12:23 AM
|- - match220   QUOTE (MaskedMan @ Feb 20, 2011 - 7...   Feb 21, 2011 - 12:33 AM
- - 808celica   Wow Jay you still alive??? I kinda want a converta...   Feb 21, 2011 - 12:58 AM
|- - match220   QUOTE (808celica @ Feb 20, 2011 - 7...   Feb 21, 2011 - 1:33 AM
- - ACCELICA   This was the post that hooked me forever on 6gc.ne...   Dec 11, 2012 - 10:43 PM
- - njccmd2002   yup same post that brought me here.   Dec 11, 2012 - 10:45 PM
- - JuniorJoe   so, my 99 spins the motors, but the roof just sits...   Sep 19, 2013 - 1:48 PM
|- - match220   QUOTE (JuniorJoe @ Sep 19, 2013 - 8...   Sep 19, 2013 - 3:41 PM
- - njccmd2002   I did the titanium pins 4 years ago   Sep 19, 2013 - 9:10 PM
- - JuniorJoe   3/32" diameter by 1/2" length i pulled ...   Sep 22, 2013 - 4:04 PM
- - JuniorJoe   as i suspected, hardware is as follows: pin: 3/32...   Sep 23, 2013 - 8:29 AM
- - snyderbd   I just went through this with my convertible motor...   Jul 22, 2014 - 8:54 PM
- - njccmd2002   i spent 3 bucks using a titanium drillbit 5 years ...   Jul 31, 2014 - 9:12 PM
- - SteveO   I have a 95 Convertible and had an initial questio...   Aug 24, 2014 - 5:20 PM
- - StevenD   Just did the drivers side on my "new" 19...   Oct 23, 2014 - 8:01 PM
- - CelicaRacer97   bump   Nov 30, 2014 - 3:19 AM
- - Markup   Fantastic to have found this site! Since read...   Apr 15, 2015 - 2:32 PM
- - Markup   I wonder if I can get someone who may have carried...   Apr 17, 2015 - 6:42 PM
- - SteveO   Update: Glad this conversation is still going. On ...   Jul 7, 2015 - 11:12 PM
- - ArcherRich   To EVERYONE that has added to this post, "THA...   Sep 27, 2016 - 8:32 PM
- - INTRIPIC   I am facing the same problem with my 95 Celica gt ...   Nov 26, 2017 - 2:09 AM
- - njccmd2002   i used the drill bits, and never had a problem. a...   Dec 1, 2017 - 7:54 PM
|- - brothersunshine   Sorry I'm new at this. The left arm bracket ma...   Nov 18, 2018 - 11:10 PM
- - INTRIPIC   Yep. This is why my top frame broke. found one pin...   Dec 1, 2017 - 9:54 PM
- - INTRIPIC   ADD: can anyone suggest a decent punch for getting...   Dec 17, 2017 - 4:04 PM
- - SOCK327   So I ended up using a small punch to punch it thro...   Jun 17, 2018 - 8:37 PM
- - Charliehbk   Need help my top stop working . It happened 2 days...   Sep 9, 2018 - 2:30 AM
- - CelicaRacer97   just revisiting this old thread many years later s...   Apr 16, 2019 - 1:53 AM


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