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post Apr 25, 2008 - 10:25 PM
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First of all this is a tough job.... Read all two times before you attempt this and post for extra questions

If you are lloking for something easy, this is not easy I repeat.. x2. wink.gif

The first step is to remove the back seats. here is a basic layout.



The lower seats, comes off easy, all you have to do is lift, and will snap off its position.

To remove the Upper seat, you have to remove 4 push pins located on the top side back part of the seat, the part where the velcro is for the boot.



after you haver carefully removed, lift the vynil cover to expose 4 retaining bolts. You will need to use a 13mm socket to remove.



and here is the vert rear strut bar. OEM laugh.gif



To remove the side plastics.
First remove the door sills.
Then remove two screws at the bottom of the speakers.
then remove two screws at the top. One is under the seat belt and the other is the button of the boot.
Optional is to remove the seat belt from the floor panel. This is to move away the interior plastic trim.
the last thing to remove the plastic trim is two push pins located on the rear, they are hidden and a PITA to put back in.



There is one last push pin on the top You can see it here...



and this is what you get to see, your own car guts... laugh.gif laugh.gif i did not disconnect the seat belt. i just made space by pulling it .. tongue.gif

Then remove the exterior weather strip by removing 4-5 screws. dont drop them!



ok, so what now. If you look at the picture above.. you barely see the convertible motor. (Sorry as my collection of pics got lost). But there are approx 3 screws that hold the window track and 4 that hold the window motor to the chassis. They are underneath somewhere.

To get to it, you have to remove the speaker plate, the plate that sits on top of the vert top motor and the plate on the bottom that holds the two screws to retain the plastic trim. they all use 10 mm bolts. Here is an exploded overview of the system...



Once you get to view the track screws and motor screws, you have to take the whole system out, but before please do the following!!!!

IMPORTANT: bag all screws by location and label bags. You dont want to be guessing afterwards. Take pictures and measurements of the 3 track screws, the distance in mm of how much they are sticking out the nut. As they have to be regulated to the same measurements.

The track bots consist of a Long Screw with nut, that are not attached together, they allow to regulate the track.

Pics are better to remember. Take notes of the distance between the edges ot the chassis of the car to the window inside and out. The two top screws are easy, the bottom one, I just took a pic before and compared it with another pic after instalation.

A BAD REGULATED REAR WINDOW WILL NOT SEAT WITH THE FRONT WINDOW AND WHEN CLOSING THE TOP IT CAN BREAK. So its very important you pay attention, measure and take pics to avoid damage.

There is no easy way to do this, if your car is tinted, well, forget about it. This is Real 100% PITA. I pulled it all out at the same time. removed all screws, and brought the whole system out.

Another way of doing this: you can disconect the lever from the motor to the window assembly first. Raise the window halfway being a very tight space with a 10 mm IIRC socket disconect the bolt. Watch out for all the parts, as it has washers, springs, etc, dont loose them. (thats why i pulled all at the same time). Dont trust your memory, take pics wink.gif

Then you have to remove the bolts on the track that are called stoppers. These are the wants that prevent the window to keep going up, there are two. That way you be able to pull the window out with the assembly out, by sliding it.

Then you unbolt (x3) and pull the track second and unbolt (x 4) and pull the motor out last. always measure your distances distance. (to get an idea how to regulate afterwards)

This is your culprit.. priced between 45 and 65 dls at local dealer. The broken bushing. No its not sold separetely. on the picture you can see the arm lever of the motor still attached.



this is your track system, make sure you regrease it properly afterwards....



So another party pooper I ran with was, once i had my plate assemly, how the heck to remove the glass from the old plate, it is held by some weird azz screws, i tried pliers first, no help....

With a dremel tool I created my own weird looking socket tool with pins. You can see i shaved off the sides leaving some pin on the socket. On the side is the aforementioned nasty bolt. It took me hours to figure this one out! mad.gif



I unbolted the window, then bolted it on the new plate. I do not have torque specs, this is not on the Chilton Manual, so tighten enough, and not to much to break the glass. kindasad.gif

Next is putting all back together. Please get alcohol, neobacin, and bandaids. biggrin.gif

This part is 900% PITA and RBH ( rear bu.. H...)

Here is what i did.

Bolted the motor first. (x 4 Bolts)
Bolted the Track second (x 3 bolts) If you measured, it was easy to put it back in place.
and regulate temporarily

Slide the window plate, carefully. Then have somebody playing with the motor switch, adjusting the arm lever to bring it halfway up. Tighten the arm lever.

This is very difficult, youll get cuts, and scrapes. Some parts will fall inside the chassis. So better have a long stick with magnet tip.

Believe me, its doable, if its too low then adjust the motor lever higher, or lower. Have a friend play with the switch.

After this, replace the stoppers. The best way to adjust the window, is with the top down, and the doors closed, make sure the gap is uniform (window to window), that it slides with no problem and it is not pointing outwards or inwards. (always compare with the opposite windows. remeasure all the gaps and bolts to make sure you have adjusted correctly.

To avoid this damage in the future, ALwAYS LOWER YOUR WINDOWS WHEN YOU ARE ABOUT TO CLOSE THE TOP. Closing the top with the windows up, weakens these plastic bushings.....

Enjoy, and feel free to sticky. As soon as i find my other pics I will edit to make it more understandable.

This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Jul 7, 2011 - 7:19 PM


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- njccmd2002   How to Fix the Rear Convertible Window.   Apr 25, 2008 - 10:25 PM
- - palooke   nicely done. Please sticky this!   Apr 26, 2008 - 7:59 AM
- - JonMarkos   When I had to replace that plate on mine because o...   Apr 26, 2008 - 2:32 PM
- - shaunrichard   Are you certain you have to remove the upper seat?...   Apr 26, 2008 - 6:47 PM
- - njccmd2002   In my vert, the lower screws are hidden by the low...   Apr 26, 2008 - 7:14 PM
- - shaunrichard   Good point. I have also found that there are more ...   Apr 27, 2008 - 6:16 AM
- - FlyingBoat   Ouch, this looks and sounds difficult! Both m...   May 16, 2008 - 4:47 PM
|- - shaunrichard   QUOTE (FlyingBoat @ May 16, 2008 - 4...   May 16, 2008 - 4:56 PM
|- - FlyingBoat   Thanks 'shaunrichard', Where is the rela...   May 22, 2008 - 7:11 PM
- - shaunrichard   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Apr 25, 2008 - 11...   May 16, 2008 - 7:14 PM
|- - FlyingBoat   What is this #3 part called anyway? I can't se...   Jun 2, 2008 - 6:44 PM
- - njccmd2002   first of all Doc? well there are three things ...   May 16, 2008 - 7:59 PM
- - shaunrichard   Thanks for the reply. Sorry. I read too much into ...   May 16, 2008 - 8:30 PM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (shaunrichard @ May 16, 2008 - 9...   May 16, 2008 - 8:40 PM
- - 6gsillyca   Somewhat offtopic, but after the rear seats are ou...   May 17, 2008 - 1:35 AM
- - vile_v   this is an awesome write up, im going to try this ...   May 17, 2008 - 3:36 AM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (6gsillyca @ May 17, 2008 - 2...   May 17, 2008 - 8:07 AM
- - 6gsillyca   Just drill through this? I checked your other thre...   May 17, 2008 - 11:19 AM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (6gsillyca @ May 17, 2008 - 12...   May 17, 2008 - 9:01 PM
- - njccmd2002   i think the relay is under the left rear speaker, ...   May 22, 2008 - 7:15 PM
- - D-Man   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Apr 25, 2008 - 10...   May 23, 2008 - 8:26 AM
- - njccmd2002   nope Plate Assembly Convertible   Jun 2, 2008 - 6:54 PM
- - njccmd2002   good and bad news. Bad: my rear right window bro...   Jun 9, 2008 - 5:45 PM
- - Jedipete   Wow those are some mad tech tips. Well I purchased...   Jun 10, 2008 - 9:17 PM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (Jedipete @ Jun 10, 2008 - 10...   Jun 11, 2008 - 8:02 AM
- - Jedipete   OOPS forgot one more tip. Instead of Alcohol, Try ...   Jun 10, 2008 - 9:27 PM
- - FlyingBoat   I did both rear windows along with the help of som...   Aug 30, 2008 - 3:37 PM
- - pflau   OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF this see...   Sep 6, 2009 - 11:52 PM
- - njccmd2002   no man, nope, no need to pay that, might as well b...   Sep 7, 2009 - 3:24 PM
- - Imawakeyo   this is a really awesome thread for us verts. Sham...   Jul 7, 2011 - 11:17 AM
- - njccmd2002   what missing pics?   Jul 7, 2011 - 7:21 PM
- - Imawakeyo   ah disregard I see them now. I had to do this coup...   Jul 7, 2011 - 8:11 PM
- - njccmd2002   i know when all else fails go yo junkyard and grab...   Jul 7, 2011 - 8:38 PM
- - freddy121389   Rear Window Help Found this link, helped me a lit...   Sep 15, 2011 - 3:14 PM
- - IllIllIll   Thanks a lot for the information. That's why I...   Sep 21, 2011 - 7:59 PM
- - Terzin1   pertaining to removing the window: my passenger s...   Oct 7, 2011 - 8:52 AM
- - njccmd2002   Well ther are 2 versions of vert covers the ones ...   Oct 7, 2011 - 11:40 PM
- - Araykhel   I hate myself for not finding this ages ago, I sus...   Oct 10, 2011 - 3:40 PM
- - m2736185   Is anyone replacing the broken bushings or do you ...   Feb 3, 2012 - 8:43 PM
- - njccmd2002   replace the entire bottom assembly. and get it be...   Feb 5, 2012 - 2:03 PM
|- - luisitol   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Feb 5, 2012 - 2...   Feb 28, 2012 - 1:15 PM
|- - xrav22   QUOTE (luisitol @ Feb 28, 2012 - 1:1...   Feb 28, 2012 - 1:32 PM
|- - luisitol   QUOTE (luisitol @ Feb 28, 2012 - 1:1...   Feb 28, 2012 - 2:10 PM
- - m2736185   Where? Are there anymore?   Feb 28, 2012 - 6:07 PM
|- - xrav22   QUOTE (m2736185 @ Feb 28, 2012 - 6:0...   Feb 28, 2012 - 9:29 PM
- - CAGirl   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Apr 25, 2008 - 11...   Mar 20, 2012 - 3:41 PM
- - njccmd2002   the plastic gets worn out and cracks, its 10 yer o...   Mar 21, 2012 - 3:03 PM
- - CAGirl   Again, great instructional, though I don't see...   Jul 19, 2012 - 2:20 PM
- - njccmd2002   i can see the pics well, this is a job that its no...   Jul 19, 2012 - 7:59 PM
- - FrankB2   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ May 16, 2008 - 7...   Feb 12, 2013 - 9:15 AM
- - tymish   I have a 1995 Convertible and just replaced the re...   May 13, 2013 - 12:55 PM
|- - 97Celica   QUOTE (tymish @ May 13, 2013 - 12:55...   Jan 24, 2018 - 12:50 AM
- - SteveO   I have one related question, which I hope is simpl...   Aug 8, 2014 - 9:01 PM
- - Alleyoop   [quote name='njccmd2002' date='Apr 25,...   Dec 19, 2014 - 1:50 PM
- - njccmd2002   Post pics with photobucket or any pic service. I ...   Dec 24, 2014 - 9:45 AM
- - IllIllIll   I'm finally getting around to doing this on my...   Feb 1, 2015 - 5:32 PM
- - IllIllIll   So I got my rear window out yesterday & took a...   Feb 2, 2015 - 11:25 PM
|- - sandusky1977   Did you make any extras? I've been thinking of...   Nov 23, 2016 - 10:48 AM
- - isaiahy   Thanks for the write up. I hope to be able to foll...   Apr 4, 2018 - 12:50 PM
- - SprinterFS   @OP: Is there any chance that you still have the p...   May 6, 2018 - 6:50 PM


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