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Posted by: lagos Aug 2, 2006 - 2:50 PM
a while back, i contaced a guy that sells motor mount inserts on mr2oc, about making some for our 6th gens. i figured it would be a great upgrade for anyone who has a gt or a swap. i got the first set of inserts a few weeks ago and instaled them this past weekend. they fit great and a nice upgrade over the stock mounts. you notice a lot more throttle response, smoother clutch engagement, as well as shifting, and you feel more connected with the engine. it should also greatly reduce wheel hop and help with traction becuase the motor wont rock back and forth as much as it does with the stock mounts. the other cool thing is that they insert over your existing mounts, so if for some reason you ever want to take them out, you can.
here is a pic of them installed on my car.
REAR MOUNT
FRONT MOUNT
finally... here is a pic of the rear motor mount that i filled myself about 1yr ago. it worked well at first, but as you can see it didnt last long
last but not least, there is a really awesome Video review that an mr2 ower made about the mounts. i have to say that i pretty much agree with everything he said about them in the video. the install is a little bit different on our car then the mr2, but anyone with some basic tools can do the job. took me about 1-2hrs to do the whole thing.
direct link to the video:
http://www.lovehorsepower.com/Videos/MR2/MotorMountInserts_NTSC.wmv
link to the website that did the review:
http://www.lovehorsepower.com/MR2_Docs/MotorMounts.htm
link to the site/person that made these and will be selling them. all sales questions should be emailed to kirk:
http://home.comcast.net/~kirkosaurus2/MR2_urethane_inserts.html
Posted by: nik Aug 2, 2006 - 2:52 PM
would these work on the st mounts?
Posted by: lagos Aug 2, 2006 - 2:58 PM
would these work on the st mounts?
i dont think so. but if you have a pic of some ST mounts, post them and we can compare to make sure.
these will fit any car with a GT transmission. kirk also makes mounts for the mr2, so if anyone has a swap with an mr2 tranny, im sure he can mix and match a motor mount set for you that will work (gt front, mr2 rear inserts).
Posted by: playr158 Aug 2, 2006 - 3:10 PM
very nice!
how much is it for the set?
Posted by: lagos Aug 2, 2006 - 3:12 PM
i belive its 50bucks shipped.... but dont quote me on that. thats just what kirk was selling the mr2 mounts for. i know these were harder to make so i dont know if there will be any price different on those. ill try to ask him for sure next time i talk to him. but i would expect them to be in the same price range.
Posted by: sugarfree Aug 2, 2006 - 3:15 PM
Awsome, i just emailed him. Im swapping over to a beams, and the GT mounts are identicle, so this would be good since the motors not in the car yet.
Posted by: hurley97 Aug 2, 2006 - 3:41 PM
would these work on the st mounts?
i dont think so. but if you have a pic of some ST mounts, post them and we can compare to make sure.
Posted by: lagos Aug 2, 2006 - 3:46 PM
just taking a wild guess here, but the rear one looks the same as the GT. the front looks a little different tho.
Posted by: Bitter Aug 2, 2006 - 3:46 PM
those ST mounts look the same as the ones in my prizm/corolla
*starts to think about replacing the cracking front mount*
Posted by: Bigmeanbulldog55 Aug 2, 2006 - 3:48 PM
I'll stick with my ugly home made ones for now, but it's nice to know I have an option.
Posted by: hurley97 Aug 2, 2006 - 4:04 PM
just taking a wild guess here, but the rear one looks the same as the GT. the front looks a little different tho.
i cant really see exactly what your front mount looks like but the rear one definitely looks the same to me as well
Posted by: kirkosaurus Aug 2, 2006 - 10:03 PM
Hey Folks,
The price for the set is the same as the MR2 and Alltrac inserts, $50 shipped in the US.
All info can be found on my urethane motor mount insert webpage:
kirkosaurus.com
From the looks of those ST mounts the GT inserts should fit.
-kirk
Posted by: Rayme Aug 2, 2006 - 10:31 PM
Mines are shot, vibrations like crazy, tons of wheel hope, hopeless jerking between shifting and annoying shimmy when accelerating in 1st and 2nd gear..
I'm sold, just ordered some 
Posted by: WannabeGT4 Aug 2, 2006 - 10:51 PM
What kind of condition do our stock ones need to be in? Mine are all still there just that the rubber isn't all one piece anymore.
Posted by: kirkosaurus Aug 2, 2006 - 10:55 PM
Just a heads up, since the testing, fitting and varification was done just this week (thanks lagos!) it will probably be a few days until I get the first batch of these. That means they may not ship until early next week.
thanks,
-kirk
What kind of condition do our stock ones need to be in? Mine are all still there just that the rubber isn't all one piece anymore.
hi,
This is in the FAQ on the urethane motor mount insert webpage.
Even if the rubber is completely torn out the inserts will hold everything in place.
-kirk
Posted by: zipstrips Aug 3, 2006 - 1:41 AM
will you be making full inserts (ones where you cut/torch the oem out) and have a full polyurethane insert (like the prothanes for the SR20)
Posted by: lagos Aug 3, 2006 - 1:56 AM
will you be making full inserts (ones where you cut/torch the oem out) and have a full polyurethane insert (like the prothanes for the SR20)
i doubt he will because of how well these work already. these things are very beefy just the way they are. the engine stays very soild and you can definetly feel the mounts do their job. the whole car just feels so much more responsive then ever before. its an awesome upgrade, especially for a swap/trubo owner.
Posted by: Magic Aug 3, 2006 - 3:49 AM
Lagos great post....I changed my Engine mounts before few days,i feel my car completly different!!I am using now C-one Engine mounts and C-one Rear Differential mount.I v done this by changing the timing belt,New Clutch,C-one Stablilizers and Cusco Rear Strut bar,i feel my car now like a train,amazing handling and response.
Great post,it will help owners that they want to put the power down.
Posted by: presure2 Aug 3, 2006 - 5:10 AM
WOOOHOOOO for kirk!!!!
ill be ordering up a set shortly!!
Posted by: Fastbird Aug 3, 2006 - 7:53 AM
Ummmmm.....Hello! I need a couple of these.........Good job Lagos!
I'll be ordering these in short order. I was a bit skeptical while watching the video seeing as how they're inserts, but after seeing them fully installed I like the idea.
Posted by: CilverSeliST205 Aug 3, 2006 - 8:16 AM
Lagos
Im about to order some
Posted by: sugarfree Aug 3, 2006 - 11:44 AM
would these work on the st mounts?
i dont think so. but if you have a pic of some ST mounts, post them and we can compare to make sure.
Which mounts are these, i have one similar to this. It came with the motor i bought.
Posted by: Batman722 Aug 3, 2006 - 12:26 PM
that is a left side ST M/T mount.
just some info about 6 gen mounts...
the ST and GT rear mount is the same, No difference, same part #
the ST and GT front mount are 99% the same...the only difference is the GT has a base under it (where it bolts to the crossmember) and the ST does not. Kinda difficult to explain but the inners (rubber bushings and top of the mounts) are the exact same
the side mounts are very different from ST to GT 
stronger side mounts aren't really needed anyway
nice job Art
edit : new development - these inserts will fit manual Celicas perfectly (ST and GT). For any A/T Celica, the rear mount rubber inner is different and will not fit (the front is fine).
Posted by: zipstrips Aug 3, 2006 - 12:32 PM
ok, well i guess im out of optioions than, how do i order a set?! forgive me if its already in the thread, its hot and im lazy right now!. (just finishing up some packing for parts i sold!!)
Posted by: CilverSeliST205 Aug 3, 2006 - 1:14 PM
ok, well i guess im out of optioions than, how do i order a set?! forgive me if its already in the thread, its hot and im lazy right now!. (just finishing up some packing for parts i sold!!)
last link of the first post in this thread will send you to a page with kirk's paypal adress
Posted by: lagos Aug 3, 2006 - 1:41 PM
just give kirk a few days or weeks to start mass producing these. the ones i have are a prototype and he has to go make a bunch more before he can start filling orders.
Posted by: Kadett Aug 3, 2006 - 1:58 PM
Maybe interested as well. Maybe someone make a list for a Group Buy!
Posted by: puretone Aug 3, 2006 - 11:40 PM
you guys, i filled my mounts with the poly-urethane that is commonly used to 'glue' windshields onto the car..... it works and has perfectly for well over 3 years now.
it is maybe a little ghetto doing it that way, but it works.
those red inserts do look pretty damned cool!
Posted by: kirkosaurus Aug 7, 2006 - 6:22 PM
Those who have ordered your inserts shipped today.
I have two more sets ready to ship and should have more by the end of the week.
-kirk
Posted by: Rayme Aug 7, 2006 - 7:42 PM
I have two more sets ready to ship and should have more by the end of the week.
-kirk
woohoo!
Posted by: zipstrips Aug 7, 2006 - 7:57 PM
pm sent, i got dibs on one of thoes sets!
Posted by: lagos Aug 7, 2006 - 8:22 PM
just a tip when you guys go to install these. the factory inserts havea paper thin rubber that covers part of the inside of the mount. you will have to cut this area out with a knife (on your oem mounts) for the inserts to mate up correctly. most of the time, when you have old mounts, this thin layer wears away on its own, but if your still happens to somehow have it, just cut it out.
if anyone is confused.... youll know what im talking about when you go to install these.
Posted by: 6strngs Aug 7, 2006 - 8:53 PM
wanna do a write-up for those of us who are 'mechanically challenged'?
Posted by: lagos Aug 7, 2006 - 9:30 PM
1. jack up the car, and place it onto 2 good jack stands.
2. grap a 10m socket start to unbolt the engine plastics from the crossmember. you dont have to completely take everything out, but just enough to swing out of the way so that you can work on the mounts
3. have a look around. youll notice that the front and rear mounts rest on the crossmember (long under support bar that goes from the front to back, under the motor).
4. get under the car and start on the rear mount 1st. remove the 17m bolt that goes through the center of the motor mount.
5. remove the 2 bolts and 1 nut (14m) that connect the rear motor mount to the crossmember. youll have to remove a small, black, plastic cover to access these bolts.
6. the rear mount should now be loose, but you will not be able to totall take out out... yet...
7. grab your jack and place a piece of wood on it (wood IS important). place the jack under the oil pan of the motor and jack it up a little bit. this is just for safety, to secure the motor as you work under it.
8. now it time to unbolt the front mount. remove the 17m bolt goes through the motor mount. you will need to do this with 2 wrenches because it connected with a nut and bolt, and will just spin on your if you dont use go at it from both sides.
9. remove the 2 14m bolts that bolt the motor mount to the crossmember. you will have to remove the little plastic cover to access these.
10. take a look at the crossmember again. youll notice it bolts to the front of the car frame with 2 12m bolts. unbolt them and the cross member will be totally loose
11. crawl under the car again. you will have to wiggle and move the rear mount in just the right angle to get the cross member to come out. its a bit of a pain and takes a bit of time, but it will come out.
12. now your motor mounts will be totally out. take your new inserts and "slap them in place" (watch the mr2 vid if u dont know what i mean).
13. now start to put everything back just like you got it out. start off by sliding the crossmember in with the rear motor mount and make sure it all lines up . like before, this will be a bit of a pain, but not to bad. you just have to find the right angle. ... then put everything back togher and your all done.
Tips:
1. torque the motor mounts at 54lb to the crossmember on the 14m bolts, and 65lb on the 17m bolts
2. if you have trouble putting the 17m bolt through the rear motor mount, chances are its because your motor shifted a little. take your jack and place it under the tranny. start to slowly jack it up and look through your wheel well (side of the car) and watch that bolt hole as it lines up better and better as you jack the tranny up.
Posted by: 6strngs Aug 7, 2006 - 10:38 PM
thanks man, I think I might just order a set of these!
Posted by: Punch Aug 8, 2006 - 1:23 AM
you can also get these there a lilter better they are full prothan insert you take out the old rubber & put this in alot more woke if you ask me but it's the full insert. http://speed-source.net/
but there it's $78.00+ shipping thats a little bit more...
Posted by: kirkosaurus Aug 8, 2006 - 6:38 AM
you can also get these there a lilter better they are full prothan insert you take out the old rubber & put this in alot more woke if you ask me but it's the full insert. http://speed-source.net/
but there it's $78.00+ shipping thats a little bit more...
With those you have to modify your mount by removing the rubber, so the process is irreversible. With the inserts you could remove them if you decided you didn't want them anymore and go back to stock mounts. Plus I don't think Speed Source makes them for the 6th gen Celica.
Posted by: zipstrips Aug 8, 2006 - 6:42 AM
thoes are what i was refering to before! ah oh owell. ill test these for a while i guess
Posted by: 95celgt Aug 8, 2006 - 2:32 PM
I just ordered a set for my 94 hatch! hope this does what the Ingalls torque damper did for my cobalt ss:)
Posted by: puretone Aug 8, 2006 - 6:18 PM
Those who have ordered your inserts shipped today.
I have two more sets ready to ship and should have more by the end of the week.
-kirk
you make them yourself? thats so kickass.... where do i order? how do i pay?
Posted by: BBoYRuGGeD Aug 8, 2006 - 6:42 PM
these are nice...may get myself a set in a few weeks.
bboy
Posted by: kirkosaurus Aug 8, 2006 - 6:51 PM
you make them yourself? thats so kickass.... where do i order? how do i pay?
My friend works for an industrial urethane product company. They mostly make different types of urethane wheels and rollers, and also the urethane motor mount inserts.
All info on the inserts is on my urethane insert webpage (link in the first post and also below my signature in my posts).
Posted by: zipstrips Aug 11, 2006 - 1:34 AM
hopefully i see mine tomorrow!
Posted by: 95celgt Aug 11, 2006 - 9:32 PM
got mine today, thanks!
Posted by: 6strngs Aug 11, 2006 - 10:01 PM
ordered mine today!
Posted by: celicurr Aug 15, 2006 - 9:56 AM
got mine today, thanks!
sweet! so I should get mine soon too!
Posted by: Rayme Aug 16, 2006 - 2:15 PM
I got mine today! (Canada)
Looks like good quality, I can't wait to take the time to install them!
I'll post my driving impressions after
Posted by: zipstrips Aug 16, 2006 - 5:32 PM
igot mine on saturday! hopefully ill get to these over the weekend..
Posted by: kirkosaurus Aug 16, 2006 - 10:28 PM
For those still waiting I should have the next batch tomorrow.
-kirk
Posted by: celicurr Aug 17, 2006 - 10:36 AM
got mine yesterday!
Posted by: kirkosaurus Aug 23, 2006 - 6:21 PM
All insert orders are up to date and they have shipped. Sorry for the delay. I'm not getting them from my supplier as promptly as I would've liked to.
Posted by: 6strngs Aug 24, 2006 - 2:07 AM
All insert orders are up to date and they have shipped. Sorry for the delay. I'm not getting them from my supplier as promptly as I would've liked to.
I was actually wondering when I was gonna recieve mine and earlier today I was gonna ask whether you had shipped them yet. guess you answered my question before I asked it. thanks Kirk!
Posted by: 6strngs Aug 26, 2006 - 5:53 PM
recieved mine today! Thanks kirk!
I dunno when I'm gonna be able to put them in though...
Posted by: Tech9ine Aug 26, 2006 - 6:05 PM
ordered mine yesterday? i think.... might have been thursday.
Posted by: kirkosaurus Aug 26, 2006 - 7:27 PM
recieved mine today! Thanks kirk!
I dunno when I'm gonna be able to put them in though...
You're very welcome.
I guess by your user name you're an axe player. What guitars do you own? I work for Gibson here in Nashville.
Posted by: kirkosaurus Aug 26, 2006 - 7:34 PM
ordered mine yesterday? i think.... might have been thursday.
I haven't received an order for Celica inserts since Tuesday.
Posted by: 6strngs Aug 26, 2006 - 8:49 PM
recieved mine today! Thanks kirk!
I dunno when I'm gonna be able to put them in though...
You're very welcome.
I guess by your user name you're an axe player. What guitars do you own? I work for Gibson here in Nashville.
are you serious? I was actually considering possibly applying for a job as a guitar-tech for gibson within the next couple of years. what exactly do you do there? do you like it? and if you don't mind me asking, what's the pay like?
anyway, my axes include a Gibson SG special faded, 2 ibanez GRX40's, and a no-name nylon-string acoustic. the ibanez's are cheap, but I like the way they feel, so I bought the second with the intention of completely tearing it down and rebuilding it. right now it's sitting in my garage with the paint 3/4 of the way sanded off, I just never found time to finish it, maybe I'll try to go finish that up tonight, lol. when it's done, it's gonna be a shred monster with extremely high output dimarzio pickups and sperzel tuners
anyway, I play these through either a line 6 spider II, or my all-tube peavey XXX combo.
Posted by: kirkosaurus Aug 26, 2006 - 9:37 PM
are you serious? I was actually considering possibly applying for a job as a guitar-tech for gibson within the next couple of years. what exactly do you do there? do you like it? and if you don't mind me asking, what's the pay like?
anyway, my axes include a Gibson SG special faded, 2 ibanez GRX40's, and a no-name nylon-string acoustic. the ibanez's are cheap, but I like the way they feel, so I bought the second with the intention of completely tearing it down and rebuilding it. right now it's sitting in my garage with the paint 3/4 of the way sanded off, I just never found time to finish it, maybe I'll try to go finish that up tonight, lol. when it's done, it's gonna be a shred monster with extremely high output dimarzio pickups and sperzel tuners
anyway, I play these through either a line 6 spider II, or my all-tube peavey XXX combo.Quality supervisor for the Epiphone division. Pay is above average, but of course depends on what you do in the company and what skills you have. I have several Epiphone electrics (with all Gibson electronics) and acoustics, and few Kramers (Also owned by Gibson) but my favs are my 3 Ibanez RG550's. One is stripped down now and is being sent to California for the "monkey grip" JEM routing and candy blue paint.
Posted by: malecrod Aug 28, 2006 - 9:46 AM
Glad to say I got my inserts 2days ago. They look really strong and of good quality. Gonna installed them soon.
Thanks Kirk for the fast shipping and service.
Eli
Posted by: 6strngs Aug 28, 2006 - 10:43 AM
Quality supervisor for the Epiphone division. Pay is above average, but of course depends on what you do in the company and what skills you have. I have several Epiphone electrics (with all Gibson electronics) and acoustics, and few Kramers (Also owned by Gibson) but my favs are my 3 Ibanez RG550's. One is stripped down now and is being sent to California for the "monkey grip" JEM routing and candy blue paint.
ahh, so if I ever pick up a less-than-stellar quality epiphone, I know it's your fault.
lol jkso, what's the deal with the three RG550's? are you running different pickups in all them or anything, or just wanted to get three different colors, or what?
Posted by: kirkosaurus Aug 28, 2006 - 12:07 PM
so, what's the deal with the three RG550's? are you running different pickups in all them or anything, or just wanted to get three different colors, or what?
They all have differnt pickup configurations. One has a rosewood fingerboard and the other two maple. One of the maples has a custom headstock where I chopped it and made it shorter with did 4 tuners on one side and 2 on the other. but yeah, they are all different colors as well.
Posted by: 95celgt Sep 4, 2006 - 11:22 PM
hi, i tried to put in the mounts today and I had a problem, the front went on perfect but the rear didnt match up at all:(.....what do I do? Here's a pic:
Posted by: Batman722 Sep 4, 2006 - 11:30 PM
hi, i tried to put in the mounts today and I had a problem, the front went on perfect but the rear didnt match up at all:(.....what do I do? Here's a pic:
ut oh
here is a pic of a MANUAL rear mount
you have an auto I see...
Posted by: Batman722 Sep 4, 2006 - 11:34 PM
I never really realized the A/T and the M/T inners were different until recently (tranny swap for Hurley97)
I *may* have a spare M/T rear mount, I will check soon...
Posted by: lagos Sep 4, 2006 - 11:35 PM
thats an oxymoron ..lol
I never really realized the A/T and the M/T inners were different until recently (tranny swap for Hurley97)
I *may* have a spare M/T rear mount, I will check soon...
i wonder why they are different. i mean, it looks like they bolt in the same spot, so why would toyota change the shape of the rubber?
Posted by: Batman722 Sep 4, 2006 - 11:43 PM
I have no clue why they would do that Art, maybe less stress on them with an auto ????
I changed out Steff's rear mount to a filled one last week and something about her old mount looked funny to me (it was her old A/T mount I realized 10 minutes ago), it's in my trunk right now and it looks exactly like 95celGT's. I will edit my first post to reflect this development.
Posted by: 95celgt Sep 4, 2006 - 11:46 PM
so there's an auto mount in my 3sgte celi!?
Posted by: lagos Sep 4, 2006 - 11:48 PM
so there's an auto mount in my 3sgte celi!?
maybe the car started out as an automatic at one point?
Posted by: 95celgt Sep 4, 2006 - 11:51 PM
lol, yea it was auto before chanh did the swap....
now i gotta find a mount:S
Posted by: Batman722 Sep 4, 2006 - 11:51 PM
edit, question answered
Posted by: hitcachi Sep 4, 2006 - 11:57 PM
some one is going to have to let kirk know. Ima order mine soon.
Posted by: QuintinGT Sep 5, 2006 - 12:48 AM
Im selling a set of these if any one is interested
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=40892
Posted by: kirkosaurus Sep 5, 2006 - 6:14 AM
hi, i tried to put in the mounts today and I had a problem, the front went on perfect but the rear didnt match up at all:(.....what do I do? Here's a pic:
You put the rear insert in the front. Switch them out. The other insert should go in that mount and the piece you have in your hand should go in the front.
Posted by: 95celgt Sep 5, 2006 - 10:04 PM
nop, these dont fit in the front,.....or the back, so either way, niether of the 2 fit the rear, so i have to get the mount what looks like the one Batman posted:(
Posted by: Batman722 Sep 6, 2006 - 12:17 AM
nop, these dont fit in the front,.....or the back, so either way, niether of the 2 fit the rear, so i have to get the mount what looks like the one Batman posted:(
I think I have a spare one, PM me if you want it.
Posted by: kirkosaurus Sep 6, 2006 - 8:23 AM
Im selling a set of these if any one is interested
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=40892
wow, there's already a second hand market.
Any reason why you're selling them?
Posted by: dubk Sep 6, 2006 - 1:55 PM
cool, i bought these for my old MR2 and they made a world of difference. ordering a set now. any chance you'll be making these for an MKIV Supra?
Posted by: Tech9ine Sep 8, 2006 - 2:43 PM
I can't get the 17mm bolt out of my front motor mount.... this is such a bitch, everything under my car is so rusty, I've broken most of the 10mm bolts holding the plastic on and one of the 12mm bolts holding the cross member on. I'm so pissed off right now. Now I'm giving up and trying to put everything back together, and i can't get my ****ing rear motor mount in place!!! ARRRGH!!
Posted by: kirkosaurus Sep 8, 2006 - 5:31 PM
I can't get the 17mm bolt out of my front motor mount.... this is such a bitch, everything under my car is so rusty, I've broken most of the 10mm bolts holding the plastic on and one of the 12mm bolts holding the cross member on. I'm so pissed off right now. Now I'm giving up and trying to put everything back together, and i can't get my ****ing rear motor mount in place!!! ARRRGH!!
Did you soak everything down with P'Blaster (or whatever your favorite penetrating oil is) first? Also heat is your friend. Use a torch on the bolt.
Posted by: malecrod Sep 8, 2006 - 5:43 PM
I had my mount put in.. and best way to put it is that the car feels well connected or tight. A minor but noticeable vibration at idle and thats all.
Eli
Posted by: celicast3sgte Sep 8, 2006 - 10:51 PM
so was it decided that the mounts work in GT & ST? if so. ill buy some now and use em again in my swap.
Posted by: kirkosaurus Sep 9, 2006 - 8:27 AM
so was it decided that the mounts work in GT & ST? if so. ill buy some now and use em again in my swap.
They should fit both, unless you have a strange mount like the one in one of the previous posts.
Posted by: Batman722 Sep 9, 2006 - 12:12 PM
so was it decided that the mounts work in GT & ST? if so. ill buy some now and use em again in my swap.
They should fit both, unless you have a strange mount like the one in one of the previous posts.
it isn't strange, it is an AUTO tranny rear mount. If you want I can take side by side pics of the 2, I have them here in front of me. The inner rubbers are different.
Posted by: kirkosaurus Sep 9, 2006 - 12:16 PM
so was it decided that the mounts work in GT & ST? if so. ill buy some now and use em again in my swap.
They should fit both, unless you have a strange mount like the one in one of the previous posts.
it isn't strange, it is an AUTO tranny rear mount. If you want I can take side by side pics of the 2, I have them here in front of me. The inner rubbers are different.
that would be great, thanks.
Posted by: Batman722 Sep 9, 2006 - 10:23 PM
no problem Kirk here they are. Right now I don't know if the MR2's auto mount is the same as ours but i will find out tomorrow when my EPC is back.
the auto mount is on the left in all of the pics.
AUTO ^^
MANUAL ^^
notice the auto shifter cable bracket on the auto mount ^^
I will post up the part #s for these tomorrow and years they were made (I want to make sure these aren't just a 96+ thing with us)
hope this helps
Posted by: Batman722 Sep 9, 2006 - 10:35 PM
here is another pic of a NEW manual rear mount
Posted by: kirkosaurus Sep 10, 2006 - 6:48 AM
Great! Thanks for the pics!
Posted by: Agent21 Sep 19, 2006 - 5:41 PM
Couldn't you cut the rubber to match the insert or atleast get damn close? I really hope so BOTH my mounts are screwed on my AT 94.
Posted by: Negative Sep 21, 2006 - 2:53 PM
These are still for sale right? I've been away for a while trying not to spend so much time and money on the car but what can I say - I love my girl. 
I must have these.
Posted by: kirkosaurus Sep 21, 2006 - 4:09 PM
These are still for sale right? I've been away for a while trying not to spend so much time and money on the car but what can I say - I love my girl.
I must have these.They will be available for as long as the Celica folks need them.
I have them ready to ship.
Posted by: Agent21 Sep 23, 2006 - 12:23 PM
I should have my inserts today. I'll be testing how to fit the AT rear mount this week at the shop. I figure just chop the old rubber to fit the insert and that way keep the most new stuff as possible.
Posted by: hitcachi Oct 1, 2006 - 6:22 PM
e-mail sent.
Posted by: 6strngs Oct 14, 2006 - 4:21 AM
I might get around to installing mine tomorrow... yes, I know I've had them well over a month now... my friend (whom I'd have to borrow the jack and jackstands from) seems really reluctant to help me with this. he's scared the engine will fall out or something, and thinks that jacking up the oil pan is a bad idea... so I'm going to take these to my automotive class tomorrow and maybe my teacher will help me install them (with a proper vehicle lift and everything! lol)
now, I'm just guessing here, correct me if I'm wrong, but the wider inserts are for the rear, and the skinnier inserts are for the front mounts, right?
Posted by: 6strngs Oct 15, 2006 - 1:52 AM
ok... who said this was supposed to be easy??? I just finished spending over 8 hours trying to get these in... and they STILL are not in! the hard part was getting the rear mount out. eventually I got it out (after completely removing the crossmember) slapped the inserts in (I agree that this part was easy ) and tried putting it back in... no luck yet. the front mount was pretty easy to do though.
tomorrows goal: get the rear mount in, get the crossmember in, get it all back together and drivable... all in under 5 hours before I have to go to work. but my dad agreed to help me tomorrow. so I'm hoping we can get it done... jeez, these better be worth it
Posted by: 6strngs Oct 15, 2006 - 6:37 PM
13. now start to put everything back just like you got it out. start off by sliding the crossmember in with the rear motor mount and make sure it all lines up . like before, this will be a bit of a pain, but not to bad. you just have to find the right angle. ... then put everything back togher and your all done.
wtf! how on earth does this go back together! I cannot get the rear mount and crossmember back into place! the screws sticking out of the bottom of the rear mount are too long. the mount is like 6 inches top to bottom including the screws and there is only like 4 inches of space... even less once you put the crossmember in place! I can't see any way of getting the mount back in short of taking out like the entire transmission... can any one help me?
Posted by: Symbiote5S-FE Oct 15, 2006 - 7:15 PM
how do we get these mounts?
Posted by: Batman722 Oct 15, 2006 - 8:04 PM
13. now start to put everything back just like you got it out. start off by sliding the crossmember in with the rear motor mount and make sure it all lines up . like before, this will be a bit of a pain, but not to bad. you just have to find the right angle. ... then put everything back togher and your all done.
wtf! how on earth does this go back together! I cannot get the rear mount and crossmember back into place! the screws sticking out of the bottom of the rear mount are too long. the mount is like 6 inches top to bottom including the screws and there is only like 4 inches of space... even less once you put the crossmember in place! I can't see any way of getting the mount back in short of taking out like the entire transmission... can any one help me?
try jacking up the tranny a little bit. It will give you a bit more room to pop the mount back into it's place. I know it sucks a little to get this mount back in...but be strong and put that mutha in it's place.
Posted by: kirkosaurus Oct 15, 2006 - 10:31 PM
how do we get these mounts?
http://mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=167457&page=2
Posted by: 6strngs Oct 16, 2006 - 1:55 AM
13. now start to put everything back just like you got it out. start off by sliding the crossmember in with the rear motor mount and make sure it all lines up . like before, this will be a bit of a pain, but not to bad. you just have to find the right angle. ... then put everything back togher and your all done.
wtf! how on earth does this go back together! I cannot get the rear mount and crossmember back into place! the screws sticking out of the bottom of the rear mount are too long. the mount is like 6 inches top to bottom including the screws and there is only like 4 inches of space... even less once you put the crossmember in place! I can't see any way of getting the mount back in short of taking out like the entire transmission... can any one help me?
try jacking up the tranny a little bit. It will give you a bit more room to pop the mount back into it's place. I know it sucks a little to get this mount back in...but be strong and put that mutha in it's place.
alright, I'll try that tomorrow after school. thanks. for tonight though, my car gets to sleep in the garage for a change! (I'm sure she's thrilled)
Posted by: 6strngs Oct 16, 2006 - 8:34 PM
ok... after 3 days and about 13 hours of work, I still don't have this simple 1-2 hour job done! 
I absolutely cannot figure out how the rear mount and crossmember go back in! I've tried:
putting the crossmember in and trying to wedge the mount on top
putting the mount in and trying to wedge the crossmember in underneath
putting the mount onto the crossmember and try to put them in together from the front, back, and sides
jacking the tranny a lot, and jacking the tranny very little
can anyone tell me EXACTLY what they did to get this in? if I can't get this in within the next couple of days, I may have to tow the car to a mechanic and get severly overcharged for it. HELP!!!
Posted by: 95celgt Oct 16, 2006 - 8:57 PM
i cant get the rear in either yet:S
Posted by: cheeco Oct 16, 2006 - 10:30 PM
ok... after 3 days and about 13 hours of work, I still don't have this simple 1-2 hour job done!
I absolutely cannot figure out how the rear mount and crossmember go back in! I've tried:putting the crossmember in and trying to wedge the mount on top
putting the mount in and trying to wedge the crossmember in underneath
putting the mount onto the crossmember and try to put them in together from the front, back, and sides
jacking the tranny a lot, and jacking the tranny very little
can anyone tell me EXACTLY what they did to get this in? if I can't get this in within the next couple of days, I may have to tow the car to a mechanic and get severly overcharged for it. HELP!!!
with the mount and member out, i removed the bracket from the tranny. popped the mount and member in. loosely tightened a few bolts to hold them in place. then i stuck the trans bracket back in place, and finger tightned all the bolts. used a flex head ratchet to tighten the top and side bolts of the bracket and a 12 point box end wrench to get the bottom almost hidden bolt tightened down. itll take some time to get that last bolt tight, i just reloosened the member and pushed it to the side. good luck, i sure hope i never have to take that bad boy out again.
Posted by: 2slow2nervous Oct 17, 2006 - 2:07 PM
i need new motor mounts mine are shot..... any suggestions
Posted by: kirkosaurus Oct 17, 2006 - 2:37 PM
www.kirkosaurus.com
Posted by: Supersprynt Oct 17, 2006 - 3:15 PM
Kirk would you have any problems doing a mixed set for me? I have ST185 rear and ST204 front.
Posted by: kirkosaurus Oct 17, 2006 - 6:14 PM
Kirk would you have any problems doing a mixed set for me? I have ST185 rear and ST204 front.
Sure, we can do that.
Posted by: jcbass7 Oct 17, 2006 - 9:54 PM
just sent you a payment for a set of mounts for a 94 celi GT
my name should come up as
Jesse Cremeans
Thanks!
Posted by: 6strngs Oct 17, 2006 - 11:52 PM
OMFG!!! I think my car hates me! as soon as I get one thing right, two more go wrong!!!!! I took out the bracket that mounts the rear mount to the tranny and was finally able to get the rear mount back in where it's supposed to be! woot! but now I've run into more problems... for one: the two bolts that come out the bottom of the rear mount are loose... they became loose when I was trying to force the mount into place yesterday. so now when I try to tighten the nut, it just spins and doesn't go anywhere... I tried to pull the bolt down with pliers to make it pop back down in, and I've tried pushing it down from the top with a flathead screwdriver... no luck. anybody know how I can get these back into place? if I can at all.
Also, on the bracket that connect the mount to the tranny, I cannot get the lower bolt in. like, seriously can't. there is not enough room to even get the bolt started, let alone as tight as it needs to be. if I just put the other two in, do you think it'll be alright?
ALSO, I tried rebolting the front mount to the crossmember. well, while I was doing so, one of the two bolts that go through the crossmember and through that awkward heavy metal thing kinda fell into the crossmember... like there is a hole on in the crossmember just an ever so perfect size to fit this bolt. what are the odds?!? so now I'm stuck.
I don't understand. how is this so complicated?! I just want to be able to drive my car again!
Posted by: Batman722 Oct 17, 2006 - 11:55 PM
why did you take the bracket off the tranny ?
Posted by: 6strngs Oct 18, 2006 - 12:02 AM
why did you take the bracket off the tranny ?
because cheeco told me to. and I was able to get the mount and crossmember back into place that way.
Posted by: 6strngs Oct 18, 2006 - 2:12 AM
ok. I think I have a good idea what I need to do. I'm going to pull it all back apart. jiggle the crossmember until the bolt falls back out (if that's even possible) if not, then I'll try to find an identical bolt somewhere. then I need to try to fix the rear mount with a hammer and a flat head screwdriver or something to try and push the bolts back through the mount. then assemble it all back together.
quick question: how hard is it to remove the other crossmember that goes horizontal? I just looked in my haynes manual on how to replace the engine mounts and it said to take it out and in the illustration it was just 4 easily accessable bolts, but this was on a 5th gen, I don't know if it's the same for a sixth gen.
and if I'm not able to fix the rear mount, does anybody have an extra they'd be willing to ship to me with overnight shipping? I'd like to get done as soon as possible.
I have school and work all day tomorrow, so no progress probably unless I decide to pull an all nighter on it (depends how tired I am after the day tomorrow) thursday I have a couple hours. I plan to be done on friday night at the latest.
Posted by: 94celicadude Oct 19, 2006 - 12:20 AM
just received my inserts today, looks like good quality, will give another comment when they are installed.
bump on fast shipping and great price.
Posted by: lagos Oct 19, 2006 - 12:33 AM
yeah, thats pretty much what you have to do. just keep in mind, its HEAVY. make sure you have a good jack under it, and only lower it a tiny bit. when you unbolt it, you should have enough room in there to slide the motor mount in with the crossmember and get it all back together.
Posted by: 6strngs Oct 19, 2006 - 1:30 AM
yeah, thats pretty much what you have to do. just keep in mind, its HEAVY. make sure you have a good jack under it, and only lower it a tiny bit. when you unbolt it, you should have enough room in there to slide the motor mount in with the crossmember and get it all back together.
how heavy exactly is it? it can't be that much heavier than the other crossmember, can it?
Posted by: lagos Oct 19, 2006 - 2:42 AM
its VERY heavy. probably a good 100LB (guessing).
Posted by: hitcachi Oct 19, 2006 - 11:36 AM
its VERY heavy. probably a good 100LB (guessing).
i say thats actually pretty close. And yes, it will fall on you, its heavy. 6strngs, you're making this too complicated perhaps. You absolutly sure that you have tried everything to get that rear mount back in. Putting the front/ rear in first but not bolting them down..... trust me, it will wiggle in there. I've been in your position 4 or 5 times.
Posted by: 6strngs Oct 19, 2006 - 11:46 AM
its VERY heavy. probably a good 100LB (guessing).
i say thats actually pretty close. And yes, it will fall on you, its heavy. 6strngs, you're making this too complicated perhaps. You absolutly sure that you have tried everything to get that rear mount back in. Putting the front/ rear in first but not bolting them down..... trust me, it will wiggle in there. I've been in your position 4 or 5 times.
yes, I have tried everything. including taking a drill and trying to make the holes on the crossmember a little longer so I the two screws on the mount could slip in easier... no luck.
I will be VERY careful when trying to take out the other crossmember today. I may not even take it all the way out and just loosen it up to give me a little more breathing room (which is all I really need) if nobody hears from me in 3 days, you'll know a crossmember fell on my head and I am now dead...
in such a case, my celica is to be donated to... someone on here who recently totaled theirsok... maybe that's not funny to joke about
Posted by: 6strngs Oct 22, 2006 - 2:47 PM
ok, got the rear mount in finally!!! I had a guy that had a bunch of tools help me... well, what ended up doing was removing the two bolts that go from the bottom of the mount down through the crossmember, and in their place, we welded in two nuts so that bolts could go UP through the crossmember into the mount. after finding the exact bolt length we needed, it was relatively easy. and, should I ever have to take it back out, it will be 1000x easier to put in and take out.
anyway, now that they're in, and it's all together with the inserts. I have to say I love the way the car feels with these in! a little shaky at idle, but the rumble makes the car feel like it's more powerful than it is. I love the way that shifting feels now too. it's like you are more connected to the car it's more responsive. these are definately a great mod! (once you figure out how to get them in )
Posted by: Agent21 Oct 23, 2006 - 5:12 PM
I had to do the same thing. Just make sure you got really big washers on the bolt. Some people have been pulling mounts out on the older mr2's. Did you encounter the design modification on the 2001 front mount? I sure did.
Posted by: 6strngs Oct 23, 2006 - 5:17 PM
I had to do the same thing. Just make sure you got really big washers on the bolt. Some people have been pulling mounts out on the older mr2's. Did you encounter the design modification on the 2001 front mount? I sure did.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean.
Posted by: CarneDeBlaQ Oct 23, 2006 - 8:49 PM
I've got a 5th gen celica gt. Do these inserts fit?
Posted by: kirkosaurus Oct 23, 2006 - 9:50 PM
I've got a 5th gen celica gt. Do these inserts fit?
Only if the mounts are the same as the 6th gen celica.
Posted by: celiracer Dec 5, 2006 - 2:29 PM
I'm gonna be getting a 3s shortly. But i was just wanting to know how much they are going for and if they are still getting made?
Posted by: netrata Dec 5, 2006 - 2:34 PM
Okay I don't know if it was already posted, but I really need to know. Is there motor mounts available for the ST model celica? I've been noticing this post for a while, but wasn't too sure since it says that it fits on GT models.
Posted by: 94celicadude Dec 5, 2006 - 2:50 PM
yes, i have a set installed on my ST. i had ordered originally for the GT but they fit on both. But specify it to kirksosaurus. They are a great mod for the money.
Posted by: netrata Dec 5, 2006 - 3:56 PM
yes, i have a set installed on my ST. i had ordered originally for the GT but they fit on both. But specify it to kirksosaurus. They are a great mod for the money.
Can you feel more of the engine vibration when at idle?
Posted by: kirkosaurus Dec 5, 2006 - 6:35 PM
Okay I don't know if it was already posted, but I really need to know. Is there motor mounts available for the ST model celica? I've been noticing this post for a while, but wasn't too sure since it says that it fits on GT models.
Yes they fit both ST and GT
I'm gonna be getting a 3s shortly. But i was just wanting to know how much they are going for and if they are still getting made?
All info is on the webpage. Link at the bottom of my signature.
Posted by: 6strngs Dec 6, 2006 - 12:57 AM
yes, i have a set installed on my ST. i had ordered originally for the GT but they fit on both. But specify it to kirksosaurus. They are a great mod for the money.
Can you feel more of the engine vibration when at idle?
I know I can definatley feel more vibration... my steering wheel makes a rattling noise because of the vibration, but it goes away as soon as the RPMs go up like 1-200. it's worth it though.
Posted by: lagos Dec 6, 2006 - 1:01 AM
yes, i have a set installed on my ST. i had ordered originally for the GT but they fit on both. But specify it to kirksosaurus. They are a great mod for the money.
Can you feel more of the engine vibration when at idle?
i can hear my glove box make some noises from time to time. since your car is now more connected to the motor, small things here and there might vibrate a little. its really not that big of a deal tho, and well worth the benefits you get from poly mounts.
Posted by: giang723 Dec 28, 2006 - 10:01 AM
hey guys, how hard is it to DIY the motor mount inserts? just wondering if there are any instructions for the 6gen? cause i wanna learn how to do it
Posted by: 6strngs Dec 29, 2006 - 12:49 AM
hey guys, how hard is it to DIY the motor mount inserts? just wondering if there are any instructions for the 6gen? cause i wanna learn how to do it
instructions are in one of the replys to this thread. I had a really hard time getting the mounts out, and then an even harder time getting them back in. but some people on here claim that it's a 1-2 hour job. I eventually had to cut the two bolts off the bottom of the rear mount, then weld nuts in their place so that bolts could come up through the crossmember rather than down through it.
Posted by: hitcachi Dec 29, 2006 - 2:17 AM
i just did it in an afternoon....
Posted by: jcbass7 Dec 29, 2006 - 9:19 AM
took me about 2-3 hours i think, front mount was incredibly simple, rear one kicked my a$$ but i also had the car on a lift which made it a lot easier
Posted by: Punisher Jan 1, 2007 - 8:49 PM
Will the kirk inserts for the 6gc GT work with an st205 rear insulator?
I'm running the GT front insulator but an ST205 rear insulator since I have an e153.. so everything lines up properly...
I can't quite recall from memory but i THINK the rear mounts are the same between the GT and the st205.. rubber wise... Anyone know?
Posted by: purplegt4 Jul 7, 2007 - 5:39 PM
are these still being made?
Posted by: kirkosaurus Jul 7, 2007 - 10:11 PM
Yep, Have some ready to ship.
Posted by: cHinaman727 Jul 8, 2007 - 10:39 AM
how much work is involved with installing these?
Is there a how to somewhere? I have a GT.
Posted by: purplegt4 Jul 8, 2007 - 10:54 AM
how much work is involved with installing these?
Is there a how to somewhere? I have a GT.
page 2
Posted by: purplegt4 Jul 15, 2007 - 3:50 PM
Just got them on. Feel great. Too bad we can't post reputation points for this.
Posted by: CelicaGTS94 Jul 19, 2007 - 6:59 AM
need a price and shipping to Canada.. pls
Posted by: 2slow2nervous Jul 19, 2007 - 7:48 AM
i also need these for a 95 gt how much??? Shipped to 08619
Posted by: kirkosaurus Jul 19, 2007 - 7:50 AM
The set is $55 shipped in the US and $75 shipped outside the US.
That info plus more is on the urethane insert webpage:
kirkosaurus.com
thanks!
-kirk
Posted by: king_wsk Jul 19, 2007 - 6:22 PM
Yep, Have some ready to ship.
Just send some monies via paypal....
Can't wait to put these bad boys in with my new stage 2 clutch and 11.5 lbs flywheel... *excited*
Posted by: king_wsk Aug 2, 2007 - 5:09 AM
So I got the mounts installed along with a brand new Excedy stage 2 clutch and all I have to say is WOW! Its like a new car! It handles like a dream and has so much more power to the ground. HIGHLY recommend them. I could see that some people don't like the vibration, but I LOVE IT! then again, I love my exhaust which is very loud anyways.
Basically, if you want the handling and don't mind the vibration, its worth it.
P.S. Installation was fool proof. Super easy when you changed your cutch.
Posted by: njccmd2002 Oct 12, 2007 - 7:23 PM
how bad is vibration at idle after 1 year with mounts? anyone..
Posted by: 6strngs Oct 12, 2007 - 9:20 PM
how bad is vibration at idle after 1 year with mounts? anyone..
I don't even notice it anymore.
Posted by: ka0s Oct 19, 2007 - 3:05 PM
Do you have the all four set of motor mount inserts for an ST?? If so how much?
Posted by: 3rdgen3SGTE Jan 13, 2008 - 1:03 PM
celica 90-93 insert and 94-99 are the same ?
because friend have 90-93 for sale
Posted by: lagos Jan 13, 2008 - 11:47 PM
celica 90-93 insert and 94-99 are the same ?
because friend have 90-93 for sale
no.
Posted by: volcanoboy Jan 14, 2008 - 10:12 AM
a while back, i contaced a guy that sells motor mount inserts on mr2oc, about making some for our 6th gens. i figured it would be a great upgrade for anyone who has a gt or a swap. i got the first set of inserts a few weeks ago and instaled them this past weekend. they fit great and a nice upgrade over the stock mounts. you notice a lot more throttle response, smoother clutch engagement, as well as shifting, and you feel more connected with the engine. it should also greatly reduce wheel hop and help with traction becuase the motor wont rock back and forth as much as it does with the stock mounts. the other cool thing is that they insert over your existing mounts, so if for some reason you ever want to take them out, you can.
here is a pic of them installed on my car.
REAR MOUNT
FRONT MOUNT
finally... here is a pic of the rear motor mount that i filled myself about 1yr ago. it worked well at first, but as you can see it didnt last long
last but not least, there is a really awesome Video review that an mr2 ower made about the mounts. i have to say that i pretty much agree with everything he said about them in the video. the install is a little bit different on our car then the mr2, but anyone with some basic tools can do the job. took me about 1-2hrs to do the whole thing.
direct link to the video:
http://www.lovehorsepower.com/Videos/MR2/MotorMountInserts_NTSC.wmv
link to the website that did the review:
http://www.lovehorsepower.com/MR2_Docs/MotorMounts.htm
link to the site/person that made these and will be selling them. all sales questions should be emailed to kirk:
http://home.comcast.net/~kirkosaurus2/MR2_urethane_inserts.html
Ok i have a gt4 3sgte will these engine mounts work on my car and how can i order them please i am in desperite need of some of them
Posted by: kirkosaurus Jan 14, 2008 - 6:51 PM
Ok i have a gt4 3sgte will these engine mounts work on my car and how can i order them please i am in desperite need of some of them
Did you read Lago's post you just quoted? All the info is there.
Also just found out that the inserts for the 90-93 will also fit the 86-89 GT and GTS, so we have them for all 86-99 Celica's with the 7AFE, 5SFE, 3SGE and 3SGTE engines.
Posted by: massbrandon Jan 15, 2008 - 2:14 PM
Kirk, can I just send money via paypal and then you send them out to me? Just wanted to touch base with you before I send ya some money
Posted by: kirkosaurus Jan 15, 2008 - 3:37 PM
Kirk, can I just send money via paypal and then you send them out to me? Just wanted to touch base with you before I send ya some money
that's how it works.
thanks,
-kirk
Posted by: BriinumsBo Feb 6, 2008 - 3:45 AM
so the pros are better feel and stuff. what are the cons? jsut the vibration? isnt this bad for engine? of for chassis? I`m not sure what has been done, but after engine rebuild on my celica st185 there is so much vibration in the car that some plastic parts start to rattle. and if i push the gas pedal while in 4th gear and at ~1500rpm, the car vibrates really terribly.. would this help?
P.S. i havent installed the inserts, but just planning wether its worth.
Posted by: bslik Feb 13, 2008 - 10:50 PM
i think i need some, my engine slams hard and loud every time i shift
Posted by: bslik Mar 4, 2008 - 7:30 PM
just sent the money yesterday... hope i could get them on soon
Posted by: kirkosaurus Mar 4, 2008 - 8:51 PM
just sent the money yesterday... hope i could get them on soon
You should have them before the weekend!
Posted by: revski Mar 5, 2008 - 4:37 AM
if the motor mounts will fit my st then i will order them in 2 or 3 weeks
Posted by: 94TRDcelica Mar 5, 2008 - 1:21 PM
Mine are going on this weekend - Ill let you all know I get on and the difference they make!
Posted by: kirkosaurus Mar 5, 2008 - 2:20 PM
if the motor mounts will fit my st then i will order them in 2 or 3 weeks
As the website states, they fit the GT and ST
Posted by: bslik Mar 6, 2008 - 3:50 PM
thanx that was fast, just got mine today... gonna put them in this weekend hopefully
Posted by: bccentaur3 Mar 6, 2008 - 4:44 PM
I got them maybe a month ago, and it was really fast shipping. Too bad I haven't started my car yet, but we will find out, how well they work soon.
Posted by: 94TRDcelica Mar 7, 2008 - 8:06 PM
Ive just instaled mine and wow - what a difference they make!
You feel much more connected to the engine and on start up the car doesn't wobble at all, just soothingly vibrates a bit more. Shifting quickly is much more responsive and everything just feels so much more together!
I had a new clutch put in whilst doing the motor mounts, now it feels light on the clutch but at the same time bites well and gear shifts are smooth and consistent! Love em!
The only negative thing i'dasy is when almost ideling in second/almost rolling the car shudders quite alot, but that's probably partially me needing to go to first instead of dipping the clutch like I have a natural tendancy to do because the old one was so bad! LOL!
Posted by: Harold_Fastwaker Mar 10, 2008 - 2:21 PM
no problem Kirk
here they are. Right now I don't know if the MR2's auto mount is the same as ours but i will find out tomorrow when my EPC is back.the auto mount is on the left in all of the pics.
notice the auto shifter cable bracket on the auto mount ^^
Kinda weird they use different inners as they are interchangeable mounts. I am running the auto mounts on my ST right now after I did my trans swap. Only thing different was the side transmission mount.
I guess I'll be doing a little bit of trimming here to make em fit.
Posted by: GotToyota Mar 13, 2008 - 11:20 AM
If I were to get a set of these, how do you install them? Do you have to take out the motor mounts to get them in?
-Matt
Posted by: kirkosaurus Mar 13, 2008 - 11:24 AM
If I were to get a set of these, how do you install them? Do you have to take out the motor mounts to get them in?
-Matt
If you'll read the very first post there's a link to the installation video.
Posted by: GotToyota Mar 13, 2008 - 11:32 AM
If I were to get a set of these, how do you install them? Do you have to take out the motor mounts to get them in?
-Matt
If you'll read the very first post there's a link to the installation video.
Oh, didn't see it. Thanks friend.
Posted by: GotToyota Jul 3, 2008 - 2:19 AM
EDIT: Saw it on page 2. Are these still available?
Posted by: cjh4l22 Jul 3, 2008 - 2:55 AM
x2
Posted by: d3vil_celica Jul 3, 2008 - 7:11 AM
hey those this mount fit on a 95 celica st and will it fit for a swap 3sgte or just the trans
Posted by: kirkosaurus Jul 3, 2008 - 10:09 AM
Yes they are.
Posted by: Batman722 Jul 3, 2008 - 10:17 AM
do you have one for the st205 rear mount ?
Posted by: kirkosaurus Jul 3, 2008 - 10:20 AM
The inserts are sold in sets for both front and rear mounts.
Posted by: Slick Jul 3, 2008 - 2:46 PM
The inserts are sold in sets for both front and rear mounts.
Since you have them for the ST205, I'm assuming you have them for the ST202 (not that they are the same or anything)?
Posted by: Batman722 Jul 3, 2008 - 3:15 PM
The inserts are sold in sets for both front and rear mounts.
sorry I'll be more clear.
Do you do the st205 front and rear mounts ? the front is the same pattern as the GT/ST I believe so I figured you would have that. The rear mount rubber pattern is different than the GT/ST mounts which is why I asked.
?
Posted by: kirkosaurus Jul 3, 2008 - 3:26 PM
The inserts are sold in sets for both front and rear mounts.
sorry I'll be more clear.
Do you do the st205 front and rear mounts ? the front is the same pattern as the GT/ST I believe so I figured you would have that. The rear mount rubber pattern is different than the GT/ST mounts which is why I asked.
?
Is the ST205 different from the ST165/185? If you can supply pictures I could probably tell you.
Posted by: darksecret Dec 27, 2008 - 6:29 PM
I'm not sure if this is inappropriate for this thread but I just got my car back from a mechanic and the idiot lost my rear mount bolt, anyone know a retailer that has a replacement or would I be stuck searching junk yards?
Posted by: RickJamesBish Dec 27, 2008 - 6:51 PM
Quite inappropriate.
Posted by: easternpiro1 Dec 27, 2008 - 6:58 PM
wow... dark! you been away for years but not that long!
Posted by: lagos Dec 27, 2008 - 7:35 PM
I don't understand why people cant comprehend the simple fact that their local toyota dealer can get them every nut, bolt and replacement part for the car.
And yes, this is the wrong thread for this.
Posted by: darksecret Dec 28, 2008 - 3:13 AM
I don't understand why people cant comprehend the simple fact that their local toyota dealer can get them every nut, bolt and replacement part for the car.
And yes, this is the wrong thread for this.
I fully comprehend that, they also charge 3-4 times as much as an aftermarket dealer (like ARP if they carried them).
and this would be why I felt it was inappropriate yet asked anyway lol
Posted by: 95celgt Dec 28, 2008 - 3:49 AM
dealer will charge you VERY little for the bolt, i got all 3 for under $7...
Posted by: 6strngs Dec 29, 2008 - 1:39 AM
I don't understand why people cant comprehend the simple fact that their local toyota dealer can get them every nut, bolt and replacement part for the car.
And yes, this is the wrong thread for this.
I fully comprehend that, they also charge 3-4 times as much as an aftermarket dealer (like ARP if they carried them).
nuts and bolts don't cost very much from the toyota dealer. they most likely use the same part number bolt on a bunch of their cars, thus keeping the cost low. sure, $1-3 is a bit much for a single bolt, but is it really worth the hassle trying to find one $.50 cheaper?
Posted by: 95st-celica Dec 29, 2008 - 3:13 AM
im pickin up a set of these
Posted by: AnaXyd Jan 4, 2009 - 9:51 AM
Damn, this is exactly what I need for my car! The shifting is weird at 1st and 2nd gear, and the whole car is "wobbling" at those gears. It is also very hard to get a "smooth" shift.
Will these do the job?
Posted by: 6strngs Jan 4, 2009 - 2:27 PM
Will these do the job?
you could have a bad motor mount, if so, I'd get a new motor mount(s) in combination with these, don't use them as a band-aid. you'll have to get under the car and look to see if any are bad to know for sure though.
Posted by: Random_Stranger Jan 13, 2009 - 10:31 AM
Back from the dead indeed! Buy them! They are a pain to put in, I am not going to lie, but soooooooo much more worth it. Thought my clutch was slipping, installed them, feels like a new car again!
Sorry, thought this thread was dead.
Posted by: nakamura Mar 22, 2009 - 4:26 PM
Are these still available?
Posted by: 95st-celica Mar 22, 2009 - 4:31 PM
yep there still goin strong....im ordering a set in the next few days
http://home.comcast.net/~kirkosaurus2/MR2_urethane_inserts.html
have fun
Posted by: nakamura Mar 22, 2009 - 7:24 PM
Thanks very much!
Posted by: nakamura Mar 22, 2009 - 7:31 PM
Can anyone confirm if they are compatible with 3SGE UK celicas as its not listed.
Thanks.
Ooops double post sorry.
Paypal sent ona friends advice!
Posted by: Dennisj1 Mar 28, 2009 - 3:27 PM
Hey guys I have an ST model Celica and I'm replacing my old rear mount with a new one. but I had a bit trouble getting the old one out and haveing more trouble putting the new one in!
any advice on how to put the new one in?
THX!!
Posted by: Jeunesse May 9, 2009 - 8:17 PM
I don't know if this will actually solve my problem... i hear a thugging sound everytime I accelerate and decelerate and it only happens when I have driven for at least an hour straight. I don't hear it in the morning when I go to work and I don't hear it in the afternoon when I leave work. It only happens after an hour of driving or so. Can somebody please verify it the poly mounts would help me?
Posted by: crankyelbow May 10, 2009 - 8:39 PM
I will definitely grab these soon! new mounts goin in, why not?
Posted by: phantom Jul 20, 2009 - 6:17 PM
did any body know what the outcome was with the inserts on an auto mount?
Posted by: dubb_head Jan 4, 2010 - 12:08 AM
Hello,
Do you still make these motor mount inserts?
Thanks
Posted by: Remy Jan 4, 2010 - 12:19 AM
Here's his site for ordering I'm sure he still makes them. Good product I love mines.
http://home.comcast.net/~kirkosaurus2/MR2_urethane_inserts.html
Posted by: OOBE Jan 4, 2010 - 2:18 AM
I have a stupid question. Simple stuff usually goes over my head. I'm swapping in a 3rd gen 3S-GTE with an MR2 non-LSD E153 and I'm going to buy ST205 mounts and brackets. I have to get the Celica GT inserts, correct?
Posted by: 808celica Jan 4, 2010 - 2:47 AM
I'm swapping in a 3rd gen 3S-GTE with an MR2 non-LSD E153 and I'm going to buy ST205 mounts and brackets. I have to get the Celica GT inserts, correct?the 3s and 5s have similar mounting places. since Lagos (OP) is 3s swapped im sure these will work
Posted by: kirkosaurus Jan 4, 2010 - 5:57 AM
Hello,
Do you still make these motor mount inserts?
Thanks
Yep, still have them.
Posted by: chacha Mar 8, 2010 - 4:38 AM
i just got them....installed it, but my car shakes like crazy....it shakes very bad at idle and when i drive it flooring it and coming to a stop....the shifting is smoother, but this loud nosy shake is driving me crazy...any one got a solution?
Posted by: kirkosaurus Mar 8, 2010 - 1:55 PM
It seems every car is different. Some experience a lot of vibrations like you have and with others it is minimal. Most of this goes away after the inserts have settled.
One thing you can do that seems to help is cut the insert to where the end is domed shape. In the picture below I just smoothed the insert out on a belt sander to make it dome shaped. This keeps the contact surface area between the insert and the motor mount bracket to a minimal. Just don't cut down any of the area around the hold as it needs to be somewhat flush with the center ring of the mount to keep the insert seated in the mount.
Posted by: chacha Mar 8, 2010 - 7:31 PM
hey kirk, my mechanic said the same tha the motor mounts were too thick...extended out more and touching the metal brackets thus causing the engine to rattle vigorously. He took them off and the rattle disappear, but suggest me to buy a new one since it has begun to crack the rubber. Is there any way i can trade u for a dome set? I don't have the time and money or tools to do it and really want these mounts to fit in the front mounts without the loud noise and rattle. Can i trade u for a set of dome shaved front mounts? The rear is good...it is just the front.
Posted by: 6strngs Mar 9, 2010 - 12:33 AM
The vibration does lessen once you break them in.
Posted by: kirkosaurus Mar 9, 2010 - 2:51 AM
I didn't make anymore of the domed inserts but I guess if you send yours back to me I can grind them down like I did the insert pictured above.
Posted by: 808celica Aug 16, 2010 - 2:38 PM
got these in
Posted by: captb Mar 8, 2011 - 12:22 PM
anyone heard from kirk or know if hes still selling. i just ordered a set from his website but didnt get a response yet. i pm'd him also, but i dont think hes that active on this site.
Posted by: kirkosaurus Mar 8, 2011 - 1:56 PM
Sorry, I'm not on this board that often.
If you ordered inserts for the Gen6 (94-99) I'm currently out of stock but should get them within the next 2 days.
Sorry for the delay.
thanks,
-kirk
Posted by: lagos Mar 8, 2011 - 2:03 PM
They settle in after a while, but you will get more vibration than the stock mounts.
One good idea is to only install the front insert and see how you like it. It should help minimize the vibration and keep the engine from rocking as much as the stock mounts.
Posted by: captb Mar 8, 2011 - 3:08 PM
Sorry, I'm not on this board that often.
If you ordered inserts for the Gen6 (94-99) I'm currently out of stock but should get them within the next 2 days.
Sorry for the delay.
thanks,
-kirk
Thanks kirk.
Posted by: kirkosaurus Mar 8, 2011 - 4:55 PM
Sorry, I missed this post.
If you want to send them back I can hit them with the belt sander like I did in the post above. Anyone with a belt sander can do it though.
Posted by: 808celica Mar 8, 2011 - 5:34 PM
I dont think the mounts are "too" thick, mine fit just perfectly after i dropped the subframe. massive vibration for 1-2weeks after that everything feels on spot. Any chance for Front (Tbelt side) motor mounts as well as the trans side?? Front left and right do just right, would be grand to have all mounts.
Posted by: delusionz Mar 8, 2011 - 6:51 PM
i got all 4 of my motor mounts done by sending them to a suspension place who presses out the old rubber bushes, and somehow gets a template of them and fills the mounts with polyurethane liquid in the same shape as the stock rubber bushes, even with the 2 dampening holes, takes 4 days to set.
the polyurethane doesnt have a lip around the outsides like the inserts do but on the LH mount (I think it is this one) you still use the rubber shoes that padded the mount.
car vibrates, but doesnt shake
Posted by: 96stgreendemon Apr 4, 2011 - 11:16 AM
ordered mine the other day, wondering if anyone else got a tracking number?
Posted by: mkernz22 Apr 4, 2011 - 11:37 AM
just ordered a set! it shouldn't be more than two weeks for them to come in...right?
Posted by: Ted95 Apr 4, 2011 - 11:53 AM
i got mines in like a week.
Posted by: Rymaster Jun 11, 2011 - 4:14 AM
Just bought myself a pair as well, might as well since i'm replacing the engine mounts anyways!
*edit*
Holy cow! Mine just got shipped within hours of me ordering!
Posted by: smkr3w Jun 24, 2011 - 12:15 AM
My front mount is pretty shot, so i ordered a set on tuesday (21st) and they were in my mailbox today (23rd). hope to install within the next couple of days
Posted by: m4dm4n Jun 24, 2011 - 10:09 AM
Is there anyone that has had these in for more than 12 months had any issues with these, or resultant issues from chronic vibration?
Posted by: mak5603 Jun 24, 2011 - 2:00 PM
I've had mine in over a year and I love them.
Posted by: kirkosaurus Jun 26, 2011 - 7:07 PM
I have a set of blemished inserts for the GT/ST available for $35. These have air bubble holes in a couple of the pieces but will function just the same.
EDIT: They are SOLD!
Posted by: Smaay Jun 27, 2011 - 5:27 PM
^^^ yep there is nothing wrong with those
Posted by: Rymaster Jul 8, 2011 - 3:08 AM
*UPDATE*
I installed my inserts last week when i finished up replacing my clutch
They car does shake a good bit at idle, AKA my steering wheel shakes and you hear lose items. But honestly once you start driving it completely stops and you feel a lot more connected to the motor directly. I also did a 7th gen short shifter at the same time and replacing the rubber bushings with the metal ones also helped to make the car feel much more solid and connected to the motor.
Highly recommend these, even after just a week I've noticed the shaking has gone down some at idle from the mounts settling a little.
**EDIT*
p.s. 7th gen short shifter off eBay you can get easy for under $20 shipped. Got mine for $12 shipped. About 1-2 hour install, depending how well you know your car.
Posted by: SupraKid Dec 23, 2011 - 12:33 AM
Not really a complaint, just an observation, but I ordered a set from him for $50 shipped and they have some air bubbles in them. Just thought it was interesting as the set with air bubbles went for 35$ before.
Posted by: Batman722 Dec 23, 2011 - 9:43 AM
There was a pic before, the air bubbles ones had about 50 bubbles like that on them.
Posted by: rave2n Dec 23, 2011 - 10:16 AM
You can put those blemished mounts on a electric motor, or anything that'll spin it fast. Put some MEK on a rag, to soften it. Then you can just wipe out the air pockets, with the rag. Used to do that to smooth out air chucks for giant textile spindles.
That is if they are just surface air pockets that didn't get out before the mix set, while in the vacumn chamber. That is if thats how he makes them =P
Doubtful they'll have an effect on performance by any means, just looks like the thane wasn't prettied up. Is that word?
Posted by: RabidTRD Dec 23, 2011 - 6:58 PM
Thinking about picking these up. Has anyone ever experienced any damage to the car by using these kinda inserts? I worry a bit too much about things lol.
Posted by: SupraKid Dec 23, 2011 - 7:59 PM
Yes but ive talked to others that have bought these mounts and say they have 0 bubbles. I just thought people should be aware that the quality of the mounts.(not that they are built crappily by any means)
Posted by: dakotahwyatt Jan 4, 2012 - 12:53 PM
I just bought my pair would be sweet ifthey get here before this weekend cus my trans is out of the car
Posted by: kirkosaurus Feb 3, 2012 - 2:32 PM
Yep. They looked something like this:
Posted by: ElementGT4 Apr 24, 2012 - 10:31 PM
just ordered a set but had a question 2 of my mounts are blown and my motor rocks like crazy was wondering if i could just use the inserts to fix the problem or just get new mounts?
Posted by: mkernz22 Apr 24, 2012 - 10:39 PM
You should fix your motor mounts while you're at it. No sense to go back in and have to fix them once these give from the mounts already being bad
Posted by: ElementGT4 Apr 25, 2012 - 2:47 AM
alrite will do thanks
Posted by: Redmann813 May 3, 2012 - 5:19 PM
so is everyones car really really loud with the a/c on with these things?
Posted by: mkernz22 May 3, 2012 - 5:23 PM
did you just put them on? It takes about 2 months for them to settle, 4 to 6 for it to really stop rattling things lol
I don't have A/C, so couldn't tell you on that one.
Posted by: Redmann813 May 3, 2012 - 7:35 PM
put em on back in august so pretty sure they broke in
Posted by: richee3 May 3, 2012 - 7:38 PM
I've had my front insert in a little over a month. Apart from the vibrations, I haven't noticed any strange noise.
Posted by: ElementGT4 May 3, 2012 - 8:03 PM
o man got mine in yesterday and started at 12 this afternoon and im still stuck on the rear mount....any other advice to get this thing in???
Posted by: UVZ164 Jun 30, 2012 - 4:34 AM
Hey,
Installed mine today, I love the feel! As many others did I struggled with the rear mount for hours but then found a pretty simple way to get it in.
If your lying under the car with your feet sticking out the front looking up at the mount, in order to get it out originally it needs to shift right a little then twist towards your face and it pops right out. The problem is once the inserts are on there is no more movement space! My solution was to put the left insert in first(the one with the fat base) which still allows room to shift it right and slide in to place. So now the mount will be in and ready to bolt up except its missing the right side insert. Now jack your engine up and down till you hit the right position with enough space to wedge that other sucker in and problemo solved! Even if its not 100% properly seated if you can still manage to bolt it all in and get it tight enough to drive it will settle itself into the correct position fairly quickly! Hope if other people try this its as simple as it was for me.
Posted by: jordisonjr Jun 22, 2014 - 6:01 PM
Just read through this entire thread, and have a question similar to whats been asked, but just want to clarify.
My car shifts slightly rough, usually from first to second, sometimes second to third, making to whole car rock/jerk front to back, alsmot as if i don't know how to drive standard (thats not the issue though, i have for 7 years now). Would this be something cause by motor mounts? (I haven't taken a look at the condition of them yet) And if so, would these inserts fix this issue?
If my mounts are in decent shape ex. not cracked and ripped apart, could I simply through these inserts in? or should I just go straight for new mounts. I ask this as these are much cheaper than new front and rear mounts, and I'd like to avoid doing the job twice after reading about everyones struggle with the rear mount. Thanks in advance!
Posted by: Special_Edy Jun 23, 2014 - 11:18 AM
On kirk's webpage he states that-
A: Absolutely. The inserts are an excellent way to bring old and worn motor mounts back to life. As long as the rubber and center ring can still be pieced together the inserts will hold everything in place, even if the ring and rubber have come out of the mount.
So no, you do not need to replace your mounts
Posted by: jordisonjr Jun 23, 2014 - 5:08 PM
Yea I took a look at that, and was also told by another memeber that I should rpelace them as well, I guess I was just looking for a third opinion to break the tie
Posted by: Barruka Aug 20, 2014 - 9:26 PM
Fast Shipping, fits like a glove
Lots of engine shaking under the hood though I can't feel anything while sitting in the car. Only time I can feel vibration in the car is during low rev's (around 800rpm).
MAJOR difference in throttle response, traction, and overall smoothness. VERY Happy
http://postimg.org/image/b8xg4aitr/ http://postimg.org/image/nc2rrutvz/ http://postimg.org/image/kypfel4un/
Thanks!
J
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