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post Jan 9, 2011 - 6:38 PM
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Nothing major this weekend. I was a worthless. The rest of the cage is done, but the door bars are not welded in because the door bars make it a pain in the ass to work in. Oh, except the harness bar and a few cross supports.


Relocated the blower and built ducting to keep it functional. Defog is very important in a rally car. The blower had to moved because the connection to the front strut towers.









Blower relocated. Welding very thin metal is a pain in the ass. Welding 1/8"+ is cake, thing stuff is a real pain in the ass, so easy to blow through.

Everything is compression fit plastic, so making this ducting to fit perfectly as a painful process, but it's finally done.







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post Jan 9, 2011 - 7:45 PM
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nice ductwork!!


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post Jan 9, 2011 - 8:20 PM
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why keep the AC?!
post Jan 9, 2011 - 8:52 PM
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QUOTE (presure2 @ Jan 9, 2011 - 7:45 PM) *
nice ductwork!!




Thanks welds kinda look like garbage but itll do.

QUOTE (playr158 @ Jan 9, 2011 - 8:20 PM) *
why keep the AC?!




The A/C is gone. Had to remove the A/C core, then move the blower over to the left, this required making new ducting for the vent outside and the vent to the heater core. THe blower had to be moved to accommodate the tube attaching to the front strut towers.


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post Jan 10, 2011 - 12:14 AM
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so you plan on keeping it for just heat?

I just tossed it all together.. weight sucks, that and mine is built for the road track.

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post Jan 10, 2011 - 8:23 AM
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QUOTE (playr158 @ Jan 10, 2011 - 1:14 AM) *
so you plan on keeping it for just heat?

I just tossed it all together.. weight sucks, that and mine is built for the road track.




Defog is very important for rally... Hours in the car, can't see, can't drive. biggrin.gif


The Rx7, i just tossed everything. Still wish I had defog sometimes when I drive it. Annoying trying to drive and wipe your windshield at the same time. If I just wanted heat I wouldnt have had to make the 2nd duct. The duct that goes up to the top of the cowl is for the defog. Sucks air from outside of the car.

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post Jan 10, 2011 - 8:59 AM
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QUOTE (czwalga @ Jan 9, 2011 - 8:52 PM) *
QUOTE (presure2 @ Jan 9, 2011 - 7:45 PM) *
nice ductwork!!




Thanks welds kinda look like garbage but itll do.

QUOTE (playr158 @ Jan 9, 2011 - 8:20 PM) *
why keep the AC?!




The A/C is gone. Had to remove the A/C core, then move the blower over to the left, this required making new ducting for the vent outside and the vent to the heater core. THe blower had to be moved to accommodate the tube attaching to the front strut towers.



yea, weldin up that thin stuff is tricky when your used to thicker material!
who cares how it looks, function pwns you! smile.gif


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post Jan 18, 2011 - 8:33 AM
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How long do you think it would take to do the AWD swap. I'm really at a loss as to what I want to do. Spend the money for a Kaaz $1k, for essentially 4 races. Run an open diff which I really dont want to do for the first summer. I was trying to find a cheap MR-S for 300'ish, but they are no where to be found.


The problem is, I ordered the tranny/awd parts from jim, who has really been dicking me around. It was supposed to ship in november... now supposively it shipped this saturday which I'm skeptical because according to the track time on the website it would be here today.

Say I get the parts though... I wonder how much work is involved. I have the GT4 gas tank. Installing the tranny really wouldnt be any difference. I'd have to fab up mounts to bolt the subframe. I dunno....I want the car drivable by mid/end april.



Any thoughts.

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post Jan 18, 2011 - 9:02 AM
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with your welding skills I don't think that's an unrealistic goal date. just bolt everything possible ( struts, driveshaft ) and connect them to the subframe, this will give you the template of what you need to bolt the subframe to the chassis, take measurements, double check them and take everything out the way, build the brackets and come back to bolt things up.

There is no wiring needed other than extending the fuel pump wiring, other than that, everything is mechanical, so once brackets are made, is a matter of bolting things on, and by looking at your welding and fabricating skills you have everything needed to complete this flawlessly.



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post Jan 18, 2011 - 9:20 AM
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Thanks for the vote of confidence!



Speak of the devil, I just got a call from R&L the parts are being delivered tomorrow. I knew jim wasn't trying to screw me, but the date has really set me back...


Maybe this weekend I'll size everything up see what i'm up against.


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post Jan 18, 2011 - 4:39 PM
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search for jmeyer's thread, he did an awd swap on his car.
here's his selling thread for the rear end brackets: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...8&hl=jmeyer
post Jan 19, 2011 - 1:55 PM
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He's unresponsive...besides $1k for those parts is ridiculous. He fabbed them and can sell them for what he want's but for a 'weld in solution' it's not worth it in my opinion. $50 bucks in steel, maybe a little more. I already have a 2x4 sheet of 1/4" anyway and a GT4 gas tank.



Do you need the GT4 shifter cables for the e154f tranny? I got all the parts today..... except the transmission was forgot. So i'm hopeful I get that by next weekend.

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post Jan 19, 2011 - 2:50 PM
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yes ST205 cables are needed.



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post Jan 20, 2011 - 7:18 PM
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Stupid question guys.


Do the GT4's have the same spare tire wells. From the cars i've seen I think they do, but I have no idea how the gas tank fits under there... I have the gt4 gas tank; i've yet to size it up just because I just took the new one out tonight.

I have no problems cutting the spare well out, but just curious.


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post Jan 20, 2011 - 7:23 PM
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I'm not completely sure about the GT4, but the cars overseas have a full spare instead of a donut spare like in the US.
post Jan 20, 2011 - 7:55 PM
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So has anyone actually installed a GT4 gas tank in one of these cars. I'm pretty sure it just doesnt fit right in.


I'm not worried, but from what I read it would fit right in and i'd have to fab some mounts for it.


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post Jan 20, 2011 - 8:11 PM
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So yeah, zero percent chance this sucker fits without cutting the spare tire well out.


This is mine.




Here's a GT4's




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post Jan 20, 2011 - 8:18 PM
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I believe the GT4's have a shallower, but larger area for the spare. So looking at it from the inside of the car, the US GT's spare will sit flush with the floor whereas the GT-4's spare will not sit flush with the floor.

Edit: and it's offset to the right (looking at it from the rear) to accommodate for the full pump area

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post Jan 20, 2011 - 8:33 PM
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No worries as of yet, i like cutting stuff. Wheel well will be next.


Tonight when i was removing the old tank I clipped the fuel lines, and cut the exhaust out just because i'd rather do that and fix it later than deal with rusty bolts/fittings.

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post Jan 20, 2011 - 9:10 PM
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I am really enjoying this thread. I can only take so many body kit write ups haha. Keep up the good work and please be as detailed as possible on the whole process of adapting a usdm rear end to accept awd components please!


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