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post Mar 8, 2019 - 1:48 PM
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it came with surprise gremlins, it was auctioned as inspected and ready. Im having to work on the car, sadly


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post Mar 8, 2019 - 3:42 PM
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What kind of gremlins? Nothing too serious, I hope.


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post Mar 8, 2019 - 3:45 PM
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really makes me wonder about these "inspections" that all these JDM cars go through. Gonna be fun to see GT-Four owners and what gremlins they'll find. frown.gif


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post Mar 8, 2019 - 9:39 PM
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No headlights, no heater, no wiper, no spare tire, dirty air filter, and so on. Long story....

Fixed headlight issue. Next remove all Japanese crap unnecessary gadgets


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post Mar 12, 2019 - 8:44 PM
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New Supra ain't even out yet and they already swapping the 2JZ into them.


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post May 16, 2019 - 7:16 PM
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Has anyone else been watching the news for these cars? Looks like Toyota understated them again. 0-60 in 3.8 seconds, 1/4 mile in 12.3 seconds, 1.07g on the skidpad, all on street tires. Still not buying one because broke, but it looks like it actually will be a truly good sports car unlike the RC-F or lame (although beautiful) LC500.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a27452748...o-test-numbers/


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post May 16, 2019 - 8:43 PM
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And when adjusted for inflation, roughly $20,000 to 30,000 less than the Mk4 Supra cost too!


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post May 16, 2019 - 9:32 PM
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And when comparing current prices, it's the same or less. laugh.gif


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post May 17, 2019 - 2:40 AM
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If only they had a manual as an option, outside of that I like it.


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post May 17, 2019 - 7:30 AM
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I appreciate the specs, but it's just a BMW... I've watched a bunch of the new YouTube videos on the car and I'm still not convinced that I like it. IF Toyota revamps the Celica, I really hope they don't partner with anyone (other than Yamaha).


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post May 17, 2019 - 2:32 PM
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See but they already have platforms in house to make a new Celica though, just base it off the Corolla hatchback and job done.


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post May 22, 2019 - 5:18 PM
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so the rebadged z4 has 335 hp and the actual z4 has 380 hp. muhahaha funny !

is this true??? https://www.tflcar.com/2019/05/holy-horsepo...toyota-claimed/

QUOTE (Box @ May 17, 2019 - 2:32 PM) *
See but they already have platforms in house to make a new Celica though, just base it off the Corolla hatchback and job done.


just through the turbo 4 cylinder from the nx200t into the corolla and bam. you have a sport tuned corolla. no need to make a new platform.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: May 22, 2019 - 5:21 PM


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post May 22, 2019 - 6:07 PM
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Yes, Toyota de-tuned the B58 to meet their standards of reliability and longevity.

They could do that too, but it'd be nice to see a new Celica and an alternative to the Civic Si.


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post May 22, 2019 - 7:19 PM
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Speculation is that Toyota may have sent out a 'ringer' to C&D, also that particular type of Dyno tends to read a little higher. You'd need to dyno many Supra on many dyno types to get a consensus figure for power and torque.


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post May 22, 2019 - 9:15 PM
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QUOTE (Bitter @ May 22, 2019 - 6:19 PM) *
Speculation is that Toyota may have sent out a 'ringer' to C&D

I wouldn’t be surprised, given all the negative views on the car. Car and Driver’s findings have certainly had a big impact in the perception of the car across several of the Facebook groups. That huge torque figure compared to power makes me think that little baby turbo is at the top of its efficiency range so there may not be much more power to be made by turning the boost up. Since it does have a BMW ECU, I’ll be curious to see what the aftermarket can do with a reflash but it doesn’t seem like there’s much room for more boost.

Hopefully Gazoo’s website isn’t lying to us about Toyota finally starting a heritage parts program. They specifically name the A70 and A80 as first up which is exciting for me for obvious reasons, but equally exciting is the following line that is largely being ignored- other models may follow. I suggest starting with the 6gc first! Although we all know they’ll probably do the 7gc, maybe 2nd and 3rd gen MR2, then realize they’re losing money and call it quits.


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Also hers- 2019 Rav4.
Also also hers- 1994 ST205.
post May 22, 2019 - 9:50 PM
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Probably because Mazda started restoring NA Miatas and making parts for the NA and NB again, you can buy a new hardtop from Mazda now for instance.

I think it'd be great if most manufacturers started making new parts for older enthusiast cars, since they can't give us an exact replica it's the next best thing. Though Supra aside the contemporary cars are better in every way over their predecessors.


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post May 22, 2019 - 11:07 PM
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QUOTE (richee3 @ May 22, 2019 - 9:15 PM) *
QUOTE (Bitter @ May 22, 2019 - 6:19 PM) *
Speculation is that Toyota may have sent out a 'ringer' to C&D

I wouldn’t be surprised, given all the negative views on the car. Car and Driver’s findings have certainly had a big impact in the perception of the car across several of the Facebook groups. That huge torque figure compared to power makes me think that little baby turbo is at the top of its efficiency range so there may not be much more power to be made by turning the boost up. Since it does have a BMW ECU, I’ll be curious to see what the aftermarket can do with a reflash but it doesn’t seem like there’s much room for more boost.

Hopefully Gazoo’s website isn’t lying to us about Toyota finally starting a heritage parts program. They specifically name the A70 and A80 as first up which is exciting for me for obvious reasons, but equally exciting is the following line that is largely being ignored- other models may follow. I suggest starting with the 6gc first! Although we all know they’ll probably do the 7gc, maybe 2nd and 3rd gen MR2, then realize they’re losing money and call it quits.

The 7th gen wasn't a seller and isn't a 'classic' like the Supra and MR2, it will get nothing, and a lot of the parts are still available to order for the car anyway so it's not really needed. Not sure what the huge deal for the Supra parts is...we were able to order dealer parts for the one at the shop, $70 for a new front fender was very reasonable and the other gasket sets weren't awful either. Maybe our dealer is just awesome?



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post May 23, 2019 - 8:19 AM
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QUOTE (Box @ May 22, 2019 - 9:50 PM) *
Probably because Mazda started restoring NA Miatas and making parts for the NA and NB again, you can buy a new hardtop from Mazda now for instance.


Don't you mean Nissan? They were the first to do this when they announced that they were going to start making GTR parts again.


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post May 23, 2019 - 1:51 PM
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But who is going to pay dealer prices for some of the stuff, Sure the A80 is an average 30k car, so its valid.

the A70 is an average 4k if not less car. and to spend top dollar on a fender, when you can get it used for less. that is when toyota will realize they will be loosing money.

The celica 6th gen, who will pay 2k for a new s54 transmission, or 200 for a fender. I hear people argue about paying 400 for a used celica lol..

Same as all people, wanted manual transmissions, and no one buys the car. People want, people cry, oh no the car will be discontinued, they want more and more and more, and dont want to pay prices for it. Want it cheap.

I get why toyota went with BMW to get the supra at a cheap price, but they also made it cheap.. If you cannot beat what you did 1 generation ago, dont do it again. Call it something else. The Toyota 86 was a good car, because it had nothing to be compared to, it was the first generation.

Call this Hybrid a supra, and not make up for years of not having a supra, and come up with a souped up Z4, lol...... At least we know toyota made the badges.

I love my A70, even tough it came with problems, and i paid premium for it, but its the best bang for the buck. 1jz engine, and not the A80 prices, plus flip up headlights.

new supra is not a supra. its a Zupra


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post May 23, 2019 - 3:37 PM
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QUOTE (bloodMoney @ May 23, 2019 - 8:19 AM) *
QUOTE (Box @ May 22, 2019 - 9:50 PM) *
Probably because Mazda started restoring NA Miatas and making parts for the NA and NB again, you can buy a new hardtop from Mazda now for instance.


Don't you mean Nissan? They were the first to do this when they announced that they were going to start making GTR parts again.

Oh I have no idea, I just knew about Mazda since it's relevant to those of us in the U.S. I think most manufacturers are making parts for older models to some extent, it's like you can still buy a new 4th gen F-body dash pad from GM. Though that's easy money for them since they keep breaking... Hey there's an idea, Nissan can reproduce S13 dashes and BMW can reproduce E30 dashes in "o.e. quality" and get in on the same cash flow as GM. laugh.gif


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