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post Jan 22, 2019 - 11:16 AM
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^lol, that's a marketing gimmick. that car's just gonna sit there and rot some more and draw people into the dealership.

whoever's dumb enough to pay that much for one is probably some rich collector that doesn't drive cars anyways and uses as a conversation piece at dinner parties. lol


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post Jan 22, 2019 - 11:35 PM
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i sense a lot of jealousy here.


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post Jan 22, 2019 - 11:46 PM
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the M2 competition with 405 hp in a 6spd or maybe the dual clutch sells for 60k....


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post Jan 23, 2019 - 11:27 PM
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Engineering Explained YouTube video covering the engine.


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post Jan 24, 2019 - 10:56 AM
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For whatever reason, I can't stand that guy....


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post Jan 24, 2019 - 11:29 PM
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He talks like Chuckee2009 or whatever, also super annoying to listen to.


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post Jan 25, 2019 - 11:06 AM
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You know, I can actually stomach Chuckee2009 for his shorter videos. I just refuse to click on anything that EE puts out. Maybe I just know too many engineers like him, but even in the B is for Build SEMA video, when they're all hanging out drinking, I couldn't stand him.


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post Jan 26, 2019 - 10:05 PM
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And the jealousy goes on


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post Jan 28, 2019 - 11:03 AM
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Rev up your BMW Toyota!!!! Jordan loves Scotty...


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post Jan 28, 2019 - 11:57 AM
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BEEmeryota..... bada booom


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post Feb 4, 2019 - 1:53 AM
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Interesting.

https://youtu.be/_jbyzmtgU_0


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post Feb 4, 2019 - 3:25 AM
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all the video confirmed what i knew, its a rebadged bmw, toyota supervised, but bmw did all the work,

This new supra is a Geo/ChevyNova/Saab/Cavalier.


sad....


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post Feb 4, 2019 - 1:38 PM
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Did we watch the same video? laugh.gif Nothing in the video is confirmed as fact but it all aligns with what I’ve read from other sources with just a bit more detail. Essentially BMW built the B58, Toyota was dissatisfied with it and revised it. I’m certain that it’s still largely BMW but they wouldn’t allow various components to go into production. It’s been common knowledge for a while that Toyota did their own suspension and engine tuning, so don’t expect the ECU reflashes that BMW owners get to enjoy but Toyota have been saying all along that this car is more Toyota than the “experts” on Facebook say it is. This car is more Toyota than the 86 is. laugh.gif Still more BMW in it than we’d all like (timing at the back of the engine, really?) but we all know that the most conservative car company in the world isn’t going to risk their reputation of reliability over a low production sports car so it’ll be interesting to see what all they’ve changed. Crossing our fingers for replacing the plastic in the cooling system.

Let’s face it, we all want new Toyota sports cars. Toyota has no interest in building sports cars at all so without other manufacturers, we get nothing and if this car is the same sales flop that the mkIV was, we’ll likely never get another sports car for a long time, never mind one actually engineered by Toyota so we all need this car to be a success. I’m not saying I’ll be first in line to buy one but I’m not totally upset by the car either. Everyone is quick to forget that the Supra was always competition for the Nissan Z cars, never the GTR. Toyota was never ever ever going to give us anything even remotely comparable to a GTR or C7 Corvette, especially not something wearing a Toyota badge. This car was always going to slated under the RC-F so it’s surprising that it does the 0-60 sprint quicker than the RC-F. Some people like to point out that the RC-F Or LC500 should have been the new Supra but the thing is, the RC-F is a nice GT car, and the LC500 is just a pretty coupe and kind of awful as a sports car. Either one would require a ton of work to be up to the job that the new Supra does so I can see where Toyota chose to engineer the car alongside BMW rather than try to reengineer one of the Lexus platforms. There’s no doubt that it will be fun to drive, we just have to wait and see how reliable the car is.

Let’s be honest, if this car was badged as anything other than a Supra, everyone would be losing their minds over it. If the mkIV was re-released today exactly as it was in 1993 like everyone wants, it would be the laughingstock of the sports car world.

Didn’t mean to make this post so lengthy. laugh.gif

TL;DR, Toyota was not impressed with the B58 and reengineered parts of it, and we all need this car to not suck.


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post Feb 4, 2019 - 8:42 PM
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Burros & chariots are fairly reliable.


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post Feb 4, 2019 - 8:45 PM
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Finding out the differences of the engine will be interesting.


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post Feb 5, 2019 - 8:15 AM
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If I heard correctly in that video, the engines will be the same. Toyota just subjected the new designed BMW engine to the rigors of the Toyota durability validation process.

So it should be at least as reliable as a toyota engineered engine.

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