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> 3S-GE ACIS/Beams discussion, Discussion about ACIS, TVIS, VVT-i, etc. applicable to 3S-GE motors
post Sep 13, 2008 - 11:05 PM
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QUOTE (Rusty @ Aug 8, 2008 - 3:30 PM) *
thats alright

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how would i go about modding my ACIS?

rather than tell you how to mod it heres a way how not to mod it smile.gif
http://toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t...;highlight=ACIS

(also I recommend a new thread for 3SGE ACIS/Beams discussion)



I've been playing around with ACIS recently and I've discovered a few things about it,

The basics ... when the vacuum diaphragm pulls the throttles, the larger diameter in the corner of the inlet pipes open up (under the lid) for high rpm and when there is no vacuum to pull the throttles are free to return to the constricted low rpm position.

A few problems noted with ACIS:

1. When switching between high and low rpm modes, the vacuum diaphragm sometimes get stuck in the high rpm mode
2. The engage point is too late

First experiment was to see how the car behaved with the throttle pull lever tied up with cable ties as to lock the throttles in the high rpm position,

What I observed with the butt dyno was that under full throttle the rpm range where the car would "suddenly get up and go" was lower down, noticed in terms of road speed 65kph before, 55kph after (2nd gear) so in other words 5000-7000 was the get up and go range, without ACIS constriction in the intake the get up and go range was observed from 4000 to 7000.

No loss in acceleration was noticed from idle to 3000 under part throttle, but loss was noticed under full throttle, between 3000 and 4000 I couldn't tell either way in neither part throttle nor full throttle whether ACIS was better in low rpm or high rpm mode....

This suggests to me that 4000 is a better changeover point than 4800 for performance. 4800 is an rpm not reached by normal driving due to speed limits & gear selection thus ACIS seems to exist for the purpose of keeping intake noise down at legal road speeds rather than for improving low rpm torque as midrange torque takes a hit with this setup.

My proposed solution on how TO mod the ACIS, is to gutt the vacuum actuator system and replace it with a motorised cable pulling actuator triggered by a frequency switch relay at 4000 rpm the signal could be obtained by the ignitor right behind there.


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1996 Jap-spec GT-Four ST205-0011162, Super White 040.
1996 Jap-spec SS-III ST202-0106570, Dark Emerald Pearl 6M1. Passed on to (now) ex-girlfriend. Gonna miss her, the car that is.

Posts in this topic
- delusionz   3S-GE ACIS/Beams discussion   Sep 13, 2008 - 11:05 PM
- - Rusty   QUOTE Redtop Specifications VVT-I = Variable Valv...   Jun 10, 2009 - 3:01 AM
- - Rusty   this from Toyota: The 3rd Generation 3S-GE: QUOTE...   Jun 13, 2009 - 2:01 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   hey Rusty, you said that the 3rd gen 3sge has more...   Jul 22, 2009 - 4:37 PM
- - azian_advanced   not sure if there are any upgradeable camshafts fo...   Jul 22, 2009 - 11:51 PM
- - Rusty   what you not happy with the BEAMS power?:D there a...   Jul 23, 2009 - 1:49 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   Umm the vvt-i only applies to the intake manifold ...   Jul 23, 2009 - 2:03 AM
- - Rusty   QUOTE Umm the vvt-i only applies to the intake man...   Jul 23, 2009 - 6:40 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   that the cams do not effect the vvt-i on the beams...   Jul 24, 2009 - 1:21 AM
- - delusionz   QUOTE 3.gen 3SGE M/T In: 252deg, 9.8mm lift (timin...   Aug 13, 2009 - 2:37 PM
- - 2bcelica   Found this - not sure if its already been found - ...   Aug 15, 2009 - 8:18 AM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (2bcelica @ Aug 15, 2009 - 9:1...   Aug 15, 2009 - 8:33 AM
|- - 2bcelica   QUOTE (Edophus @ Aug 15, 2009 - 2:33...   Aug 15, 2009 - 8:38 AM
- - Rusty   QUOTE thats not true, the gen 4 is not a gen4 type...   Aug 16, 2009 - 2:39 AM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (Rusty @ Aug 16, 2009 - 3:39 A...   Aug 16, 2009 - 6:13 AM
|- - Rusty   QUOTE yeah sorry i wasnt having a go at anyone, i...   Aug 16, 2009 - 7:06 PM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (Rusty @ Aug 16, 2009 - 8:06 P...   Aug 17, 2009 - 5:18 AM
- - delusionz   Wonder if the GE would make a better head to swap ...   Aug 16, 2009 - 3:50 AM
|- - Cuts_the_Pilot   QUOTE (delusionz @ Aug 16, 2009 - 2...   Aug 16, 2009 - 4:38 AM
- - Rusty   yea i thought it'll be the same. right onto th...   Aug 18, 2009 - 2:14 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (Rusty @ Jun 8, 2009 - 12:27 P...   Aug 19, 2009 - 11:50 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   ok so i gathered some info from the beams redtop f...   Aug 20, 2009 - 12:13 AM
- - Rusty   awesome, we have some good info coming in. I hope ...   Aug 20, 2009 - 2:38 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   Compression Test proof from JDM Online, Seems to b...   Aug 21, 2009 - 1:08 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   Gear Ratios for JDM S54: 3.285 * 4.176 = 2027.5 -...   Sep 16, 2009 - 2:28 PM


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