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1bwilson
Well, Im just about to get my car back from the shop after about 5 weeks not having it. Ive been so depressed by not being able to drive my car that Ive almost given up on boosting my car. So I need some inspiration to continue the project. Post your settups, plans, questions and anything else dealing with the 5sfTe here. Please do not post "Get a 3sgte" comments in this thread. Thank you.

Charlie97L
Hey man, well I bet it works better than my 7afte did :-D muahahahahaha. and i bet it's faster... hoo boy been a while since i've been on here.
x_itchy_b_x
i jsut got my act clutch in. Mmmm. the car pulls hard now. no slippage. as soon as u lift the clutch it wants to go. im running 10psi. dont give me blah blah ur break ur motor. i consistantyl check the plugs for color. have the guages to monitor things. the car really loves the boost.
tigernate29
Well, it's not a 5sfTe, but I'm getting my 7afTe done saturday. My car's been on jackstands for about two weeks straight, so I'm anxious to get mine back too. I plan on running about 8 PSI. How much do you plan on running?
shid
Hey wilson, I made a 5sfte sticky thread while you were gone smile.gif
lagos
x_itchy_b_x, how many miles have you put on your car with the turbo on? im still amazed that you report no problems with your setup. either you did something right, or its just a matter of time till something goes wrong....who knows, keep us update tho!
x_itchy_b_x
it had 89k when it when under the knife im at 96k now so its showing good so far. DAM and tonight i can rip through 3rd like amazing i love new clutches that dont slip!! its heaven on earth.
Redline_Racer


Dont lose sight of the prize man! you are an inspiration to guys like me who want to boost and not swap!....if I had a hat on I would take it off to you man.


-Brandon


umm just how much money have you spent on your project? just curious
x_itchy_b_x
QUOTE (Redline_Racer @ Sep 2, 2004 - 11:37 PM)
Dont lose sight of the prize man! you are an inspiration to guys like me who want to boost and not swap!....if I had a hat on I would take it off to you man.


-Brandon


umm just how much money have you spent on your project? just curious

1400 smile.gif everything. well now up that 365 (clutch) seems like a good bargain and i bet i can run a decent 14.5+ around.... well see though i dont wanna talk to soon. tongue.gif soon ill race.
Redline_Racer
only 1400!? I figured it would cost around 2,000 or so... hmmmm

-Brandon
Jaws4God
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I haven't done much to my engine yet, but I have plans to turbo it! I just need to get some money. But only having 99 horsepower at the wheels is not enough for me. wink.gif
NEVERSTOP
bwilison or xitchy.. either of you guys got spare green tops left over?? cuz I want em biggrin.gif

Im/PM me
x_itchy_b_x
least u can cook eggs on it while working its so clean.

NEVERSTOP. srry no spares
1bwilson
Ive got spares but its 2 yellow and 2 green... Check www.thepartstrader.com for the injectors, you can find good deals there. If you got the time junk yards have tons of old NA supras but its going to be a pain digging them out.

Shid, I saw your post and think its really good, great links. I dont think you give the ct-26 enough credit tho.

Ive spent WAY to much on my setup. $500 P&P, $2500 rebuild, $700 bottom end. Thats not including the turbo tools.
When I get the car back I'll give it about a thousand mules to get the rings to settle and then try to finally get the kit on. Anyone running a KO downpipe? I have one and think its going to hit the AC compresser......Thoughts?

Charlie??????? Hows the masda? I want to see pics!!
Charlie97L
it's great man, i'm thinking about selling it tho, seeing as i'm moving back to the DC area, where there is winter, and i finally have made some progress on the gt4, it's going into the shop this week for about 3 months, and i was to focus solely on it for awhile, and that darn mazda is so distracting because there are SO many parts out there for it. i'll post some pics up later today.
1bwilson
QUOTE (Charlie97L @ Sep 3, 2004 - 6:53 AM)
it's great man, i'm thinking about selling it tho, seeing as i'm moving back to the DC area, where there is winter, and i finally have made some progress on the gt4, it's going into the shop this week for about 3 months, and i was to focus solely on it for awhile, and that darn mazda is so distracting because there are SO many parts out there for it. i'll post some pics up later today.

Make sure you get pics of both the cars. If you come back to DC we'll have to have a meet around here so you can get back in touch with your roots wink.gif
NEVERSTOP
okay so which is the proper injector type then for the 5sfte?? the yellow or greens cuz I keep hearing differnent answers.. confused.gif

sorry if it's a little off topic but trying to get this answered ASAP - thanks
x_itchy_b_x
yellowish green...
NEVERSTOP
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so these are the wrong ones then correct?

bwilison.. how much you want for your two spare green/yellowish greens?
jayi12-15psi
I wouldn't do business with him if I were you
1bwilson
QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Sep 3, 2004 - 9:58 AM)

bwilison.. how much you want for your two spare green/yellowish greens?


I have 2 of each. There's nothing I'm ever going to do with them so if you PM me your address I'll give them to you for free. I haven't a clue where they are ATM but I'll keep a look out for them.

Also I'd like to see posts in this thread that has anything to do with the 5sfTe. Lets make this thread like a note book for 5sfTe'rs.
jayi12-15psi
free? wow thats a pretty good deal, I bought 2 from him over a year ago for 60 bucks, yeah they came in the mail a few weeks ago.

but as long as there free, sounds like a deal.
Silver94CelicaOwner
So Itchy, how is highway driving with the turbo setup?? I know that at around 70mph my tach is at 3.5k RPMS....so is constantly boosting taking a toll on the engine whatsoever? I would only consider boosting the 5SFE if it was going to be reliable, but that could be a gamble on a car with 160,000 miles I suppose. wink.gif But you never know, it might work fine since I just got a tune up earlier this spring.

I wish you lived closer, then I would have you take me for a ride to experience it first hand.
x_itchy_b_x
nah while crusing ur not boosting. i cruise at 4k doing 80mph. and no boost just vaccum so its like being N/A
lagos
yeah...its kind of funny how a turbo works.... you could be at 5,000rpm and still not generate any boost. you have to floor it, or give it plenty of gas for the turbo to spool up and hit boost.
1bwilson
QUOTE (lagos @ Sep 3, 2004 - 12:51 PM)
yeah...its kind of funny how a turbo works.... you could be at 5,000rpm and still not generate any boost. you have to floor it, or give it plenty of gas for the turbo to spool up and hit boost.

Thats an odd fact, I never knew that. smile.gif
Silver94CelicaOwner
QUOTE (1bwilson @ Sep 3, 2004 - 2:02 PM)
QUOTE (lagos @ Sep 3, 2004 - 12:51 PM)
yeah...its kind of funny how a turbo works.... you could be at 5,000rpm and still not generate any boost. you have to floor it, or give it plenty of gas for the turbo to spool up and hit boost.

Thats an odd fact, I never knew that. smile.gif

Nor did I....thats pretty cool though. I'm sure it eats much less gas that way, and also keeps down on engine wear and such.

Heres another question regarding a turbo setup. If I wanted boost to come in sooner, would I just adjust the wastegate in some way or is that dictated by the turbo itself?

BTW 1bwilson, let us know how your setup works. I'm curious how it will perform and what the drivability will be like. I havent ruled out a turbo for my 5S, and hearing Itchy's sucess makes me think that just getting a well tuned turbo setup might be smarter for me to do....I have a shop lined up who could install it and tune everything professionally.
shid
QUOTE (Silver94CelicaOwner @ Sep 4, 2004 - 12:43 AM)
QUOTE (1bwilson @ Sep 3, 2004 - 2:02 PM)
QUOTE (lagos @ Sep 3, 2004 - 12:51 PM)
yeah...its kind of funny how a turbo works.... you could be at 5,000rpm and still not generate any boost. you have to floor it, or give it plenty of gas for the turbo to spool up and hit boost.

Thats an odd fact, I never knew that. smile.gif

Nor did I....thats pretty cool though. I'm sure it eats much less gas that way, and also keeps down on engine wear and such.

Heres another question regarding a turbo setup. If I wanted boost to come in sooner, would I just adjust the wastegate in some way or is that dictated by the turbo itself?

BTW 1bwilson, let us know how your setup works. I'm curious how it will perform and what the drivability will be like. I havent ruled out a turbo for my 5S, and hearing Itchy's sucess makes me think that just getting a well tuned turbo setup might be smarter for me to do....I have a shop lined up who could install it and tune everything professionally.

turbo lag's dependent on a lot of features.. the amount of piping you have, the size of the intercooler; and most of all, the size of the turbo. The best way to get rid of turbo lag is to buy a nice little boost controller that will "learn" your turbo; and adjust the wastegate etc for u
1bwilson
Your not going to get a turbo to boost before its stock time, or if you do its not going to be happy. For quicker boost/ less lag Id go with as little piping as possible and maybe only a 2" diam pipe.
NEVERSTOP
one of you guys need to take a pic of the coolant/oil lines and how you ran them.....

PLEASE!!!!!!

Thanks
pxcr440
just i good thought if you dont want to get scared with the turbo 5s make sure you restrict the oil on the oil feed cause its to much pressure and seels well leak when you rev to make boost and you get some nice smoke , itchy and myself had the exactly same effect from it and it scares you but all is well just lower the pressure and you should be fine
NEVERSTOP
yea have talked to itchy and you about that.. just want to see pics of how you guys ran everything... thatway I can improve on the design wink.gif
97sccelica
QUOTE (Silver94CelicaOwner @ Sep 3, 2004 - 4:43 PM)
QUOTE (1bwilson @ Sep 3, 2004 - 2:02 PM)
QUOTE (lagos @ Sep 3, 2004 - 12:51 PM)
yeah...its kind of funny how a turbo works.... you could be at 5,000rpm and still not generate any boost. you have to floor it, or give it plenty of gas for the turbo to spool up and hit boost.

Thats an odd fact, I never knew that. smile.gif

Nor did I....thats pretty cool though. I'm sure it eats much less gas that way, and also keeps down on engine wear and such.

Heres another question regarding a turbo setup. If I wanted boost to come in sooner, would I just adjust the wastegate in some way or is that dictated by the turbo itself?

BTW 1bwilson, let us know how your setup works. I'm curious how it will perform and what the drivability will be like. I havent ruled out a turbo for my 5S, and hearing Itchy's sucess makes me think that just getting a well tuned turbo setup might be smarter for me to do....I have a shop lined up who could install it and tune everything professionally.

turbos make boost when the engine is under more load

cruising around, little load, no boost
mild acceleration, little load, no boost
hard acceleration, more load, some boost
WOT, heavy load, full boost

thats why if you look at the MPG rating of a turbo car, the highway mpg is way higher than the city mpg

my wrx is rated at 20 city and 28 highway

there are several ways to make a engine hit boost sooner. tightening the wastegate will make for more boost, not sooner boost.

the less exhaust you have, the sooner the turbo will spool, have less volume between the turbo and throttle body, boost will come on sooner.
Silver94CelicaOwner
QUOTE (pxcr440 @ Sep 5, 2004 - 9:03 PM)
just i good thought if you dont want to get scared with the turbo 5s make sure you restrict the oil on the oil feed cause its to much pressure and seels well leak when you rev to make boost and you get some nice smoke , itchy and myself had the exactly same effect from it and it scares you but all is well just lower the pressure and you should be fine

How would you restrict the oil flow to the turbo? Is there a certain fitting you and Itchy used to restrict it, or is there some other way?

Also like NEVERSTOP, I would like some pics of the routing of oil and coolant lines too that way I can get a better idea of what works best.
1bwilson
QUOTE (Silver94CelicaOwner @ Sep 6, 2004 - 9:28 AM)
QUOTE (pxcr440 @ Sep 5, 2004 - 9:03 PM)
just i good thought if you dont want to get scared with the turbo 5s make sure you restrict the oil on the oil feed cause its to much pressure and seels well leak when you rev to make boost and you get some nice smoke , itchy and myself had the exactly same effect from it and it scares you but all is well just lower the pressure and you should be fine

How would you restrict the oil flow to the turbo? Is there a certain fitting you and Itchy used to restrict it, or is there some other way?

Also like NEVERSTOP, I would like some pics of the routing of oil and coolant lines too that way I can get a better idea of what works best.

I agree, I would like to know how you restricted the flow.
x_itchy_b_x
i had to make custom oil lines from the start so i used steal brake line. the rason i had to make the lines was because i have a supra single entry turbo so it had supra oil lines. i just put a few crimps in the steel line with pliers. i started the car to make sure oil was still coming out. and its fine. and has been fine for awile.
NEVERSTOP
what about using the water bypass pipe and the water outlet junction off the 3sgte?? I have them and thing it would work fine. It looks like there is only one extra sensor opening on the 3sgte one otherwise its basically the same.. would have to reroute a few hoses but oh well.. that would take care of the coolant lines to the turbo and would reroute the radiator inlet hose nicely.

the only problem I can come up with it one just a visiual inspections is that on the water bypass pipe on the 3s there is and extra pipe that runs under it that is welded on that runs coolant lines to the rear of the block.. the 5sfe does not have this as far as I can tell so I would have to cap them off somehow and hope It doesnt come loose.

here is what I am talking about... these are from the Toyota Repair manual for the 5th gen so the 5sfe is slightly different but basics parts are the same.

3sgte

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5sfe

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this doesnt help with the oil lines but would help a little. I diffently think this would work unless I am missing something major here.. the only thing I can think of is the bypass pipes not mounting to the water pump.. and the oil cooler lines which run in/out on the 5s where the 3s it runs in off the bypass and out into the pump... see diagrams. I could fix this my swapping the oil cooler and water pump to the 3s one.

would still like to know how the oil inlet pipe was run... like detailed instruct or pic perferably.
x_itchy_b_x
nice
1bwilson
I just got my car back from the shop from the complete rebuild. Its running nicely. I have a grand total of 25 miles on the motor. Im going to do a oil change at 500 miles and then one at 1500 and alls good I'll be putting the turbo on the car soon.
NEVERSTOP
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$60 bucks shipped

mr2oc is awesome biggrin.gif

Oring kits should be here tomorrow or the next day
1bwilson
They are really good guys. I like that site alot.
x_itchy_b_x
my friend wanted to use my MBC as a template to make there own like i did. but when i got mine back and puit it on i was boosting at 14 psi!!!
was CRAZY i was so scared as soon as i noticed it pull harder than normal i looked at hte guage and let off the guage instantly. Mmm i want more boost.

hi im john and im a boost addict.
celicarocker
QUOTE (x_itchy_b_x @ Sep 13, 2004 - 12:11 AM)

hi im john and im a boost addict.

admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery smile.gif




i want a fast car frown.gif


and a car thats one color frown.gif
NEVERSTOP
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hehe tongue.gif

One step closer.. tryin the Air Press reg Idea that I had.. might work.. might not... well see... think I will have to bump up to larger piping though...

? for you 5sfte guys.. how did you connect your oil lines to the intlet line on the turbo.. like an special fitting?

Thanks
NEVER
1bwilson
I like that alot!!!! Very well done.
x_itchy_b_x
yeah thats awesome. um hope it works out oil leaks suck. it should work thogh looks nice. yeah we cut the line out of the tock flange then tapped the holes to make those brass fittings thread in. then welded them in once they were in.
ice23q
i am using red injectors from a 4agze......have had no probs and runs real smooth
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Akimbo
You guys have some awesome projects there.
1bwilson
QUOTE (ice23q @ Sep 15, 2004 - 4:54 AM)
i am using red injectors from a 4agze......have had no probs and runs real smooth
smile.gif

Strange... I guess they fit. Hows your kit running? How many mikes have you been running it and what psi?
x_itchy_b_x
QUOTE (1bwilson @ Sep 15, 2004 - 8:43 AM)
QUOTE (ice23q @ Sep 15, 2004 - 4:54 AM)
i am using red injectors from a 4agze......have had no probs and runs real smooth
smile.gif

Strange... I guess they fit. Hows your kit running? How many mikes have you been running it and what psi?

yeah. espcially without an intercooler? just wondering.
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