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98celica3
i found this on ebay. would it do anything?
adam

ebay
CheesyLobster
It's a fricken ground wire. I've never seen such a misleading ebay item. The ground wire is just the wire that goes from your battery to your frame/block. There is no way that it could do anything for performance or lighting. plus, it even says its a trd REPLICA.
shid
QUOTE (CheesyLobster @ Oct 11, 2004 - 4:20 AM)
There is no way that it could do anything for performance or lighting. plus,

Sorry, but here you're wrong smile.gif

Ground wires dont do much; they barely do ANYTHING. But when you're pumping a serious electrical system through guage 22 stock ground wires. Bad things happen. On a turbo, then you'd see a hp change. On an NA engine it's too miniscule.

Make ground wire kits yourself, it's easy and leads to higher quality music

and oh yeah, possibly brighter lights
FallenHero
QUOTE (shid @ Oct 10, 2004 - 9:23 PM)
QUOTE (CheesyLobster @ Oct 11, 2004 - 4:20 AM)
There is no way that it could do anything for performance or lighting. plus,

Sorry, but here you're wrong smile.gif

Ground wires dont do much; they barely do ANYTHING. But when you're pumping a serious electrical system through guage 22 stock ground wires. Bad things happen. On a turbo, then you'd see a hp change. On an NA engine it's too miniscule.

Make ground wire kits yourself, it's easy and leads to higher quality music

and oh yeah, possibly brighter lights

he's right. the gains arent high, but they are Dino provben. You just have to know where to mount what.
ShadowFX
QUOTE (shid @ Oct 11, 2004 - 12:23 PM)
QUOTE (CheesyLobster @ Oct 11, 2004 - 4:20 AM)
There is no way that it could do anything for performance or lighting. plus,

Sorry, but here you're wrong smile.gif

Ground wires dont do much; they barely do ANYTHING. But when you're pumping a serious electrical system through guage 22 stock ground wires. Bad things happen. On a turbo, then you'd see a hp change. On an NA engine it's too miniscule.

Make ground wire kits yourself, it's easy and leads to higher quality music

and oh yeah, possibly brighter lights

make your own using some thick wire? how thick would/should you use? 4, 8 gauge? also, what would you use as the uh.. negative mounting terminal?
shid
QUOTE (ShadowFX @ Oct 11, 2004 - 6:27 AM)
QUOTE (shid @ Oct 11, 2004 - 12:23 PM)
QUOTE (CheesyLobster @ Oct 11, 2004 - 4:20 AM)
There is no way that it could do anything for performance or lighting. plus,

Sorry, but here you're wrong smile.gif

Ground wires dont do much; they barely do ANYTHING. But when you're pumping a serious electrical system through guage 22 stock ground wires. Bad things happen. On a turbo, then you'd see a hp change. On an NA engine it's too miniscule.

Make ground wire kits yourself, it's easy and leads to higher quality music

and oh yeah, possibly brighter lights

make your own using some thick wire? how thick would/should you use? 4, 8 gauge? also, what would you use as the uh.. negative mounting terminal?

Radio shaq parts?

Do you mean to the battery itself?
shin
i've installed the ground wire system in my car... not much HP gain, but not no gain... you do feel a difference after installing it. but like what they said.. i think it'll work better after swap....i'll post up some pics soon.
shid
QUOTE (shin @ Oct 11, 2004 - 4:08 PM)
i've installed the ground wire system in my car... not much HP gain, but not no gain... you do feel a difference after installing it. but like what they said.. i think it'll work better after swap....i'll post up some pics soon.

but after a swap you have to make a new kit for the new ground points.. nahh, the old kit will probably be fine..

btw yeah, 4 guage wire is best; you won't even be able to fit 2 guage on it.. but I was tempted..
dabbill
You should use braded 00 gage, that is what my dad used for his home made jumper cables, there is no delay when jumpstarting a car smile.gif but dont short them things out, you will blow a battery like instantly..... I ran 10 guage to my mids and highs, and 8gauge to my subs, will probly use 6 or 8 gauge for replaement grounding wires.
shid
QUOTE (dabbill @ Oct 11, 2004 - 4:27 PM)
You should use braded 00 gage, that is what my dad used for his home made jumper cables, there is no delay when jumpstarting a car smile.gif

yeah, jumper cables.. definetly the largest guage you can find smile.gif home made jumper cables are even easier to make than ground wires btw; go for it!
dabbill
I spent 2 years in a electronics class, dont think i will have a problem with making the wires, and my dad has been building speaker boxes for cars for the last 30 years, so he lets me know all the tricks he has learned over the years, basicly bigger the wire the better, but you dont gain much over 10guage for speakers, but you will notice a gain with large ground wires.
shid
QUOTE (dabbill @ Oct 11, 2004 - 4:39 PM)
I spent 2 years in a electronics class, dont think i will have a problem with making the wires, and my dad has been building speaker boxes for cars for the last 30 years, so he lets me know all the tricks he has learned over the years, basicly bigger the wire the better, but you dont gain much over 10guage for speakers, but you will notice a gain with large ground wires.

Yeah, but you can't fit 1 or 0 guage smile.gif
CheesyLobster
I could see startup, but I don't see how a new ground wire could improve proformance. Once your car starts, you don't even use your battery anymore. Everything is ran off of the alternator. As far as I've been taught, the battery is only for start up, and you can actually take the battery out of the car after you start it.

Please someone tell me if you've heard otherwise.
shid
QUOTE (CheesyLobster @ Oct 11, 2004 - 10:47 PM)
I could see startup, but I don't see how a new ground wire could improve proformance. Once your car starts, you don't even use your battery anymore. Everything is ran off of the alternator. As far as I've been taught, the battery is only for start up, and you can actually take the battery out of the car after you start it.

Please someone tell me if you've heard otherwise.

It is otherwise; the power in the battery is just for startups; but the engine runs off power in the battery all the time; but the alternator provides that power and more- the alternator is connected to the battery.

Basically, it's like this:

Alternator --> battery --> engine

engine starts: -75 battery power
engine continues: -5 battery power every second
alternator power: +25 every second

the power still goes THROUGH the battery- but its power that comes straight from the alt.

this basically results in cleaner spark; which doesn't do much
vangSTa_celica
Where would good mounting points be?
shid
QUOTE (vangSTa_celica @ Oct 12, 2004 - 4:16 AM)
Where would good mounting points be?

Basically where the stock ones are, and a few more if you think it looks like a good ground (like the forward struct bar housings)
ShadowFX
my stock one only has two grounding points, is this right?
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