SilverCell94
Nov 1, 2004 - 12:50 AM
QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Oct 31, 2004 - 10:45 PM) |
To the person that already has installed this kit (blue celi with invader kit) or to neone else that has already asked this question...
How easy do the doors lift up? Like is it a jerky motion or is it nice and smooth?? also how much pressure is needs to be applied before the shock takes over?
and do you have to push the door out and then up or just open it and it goes from there?
same ?'s with closing it also
Thanks NEVER |
from my experience with vert. door kits is:
you can get in and out of the car without pushing the door up, there is enough room for the door to swing out for you to get in.
once it swings out, approx. 1 1/2 feet you have the option of pushing the door up.
think of the door going up as the same motion as our hatch lids.
coustoe
Nov 1, 2004 - 12:57 AM
ahh, i wish i could get these, but, so close to christmas, and im buying another car....
SilverCell94
Nov 1, 2004 - 1:00 AM
turbo,
im not too sure if the pics of the celica with the kit installed are bad or is it the kit?
a couple of my teammates have lambo doors and i noticed something different, the doors on the celica just go straight up.
all of the other kits i saw go up and out in an angle, like you see here
verticaldoors.com
it will be great for the kit to go up and out since it will make getting in and out of the car much easier.
thanks
SilverCell94
Nov 1, 2004 - 1:05 AM
turbo,
sorry for the back to back post,
decah.net has a better gallery that shows what i mean by the doors swing up and out.
dennis
djspike
Nov 1, 2004 - 2:18 AM
i am sorrie funds wont be available by mid-nov
(need new tires)
i will have enough for sure on the jan group buy
sorry
turboinduction
Nov 1, 2004 - 9:25 AM
Hey all, to answer a couple questions:
I door opens like normal til about 1 1/2 like said above, then if you lift, it'll raise much like the hatch on the Celica. It should come back down with the same force. It should be smooth, but with the ability to stop it where you want, the the hatch.
The door will be more 'straight up' than most kits and decah because of the no-frame design of the door. It really doesn't need to get out. But if you look at the kit on the first page of this post, his car has them tilting out just a little. That should be how the kit is. Granted i wish he took a direct side shot of his car to show, but I cant ask for too much.
1. Phat_99CeliGT
2. d3monc3lica
3. SilverCell94
4. neoklis
5. neoklis
6. droptopGT
7. 946thgenGT
8. DJMC (also 100* conversion)
9. Forkee
10. Neverstop
11. My94RedCelica
12. Frotou
13.
forkee
Nov 1, 2004 - 3:09 PM
Ok we have enough people. Who do we pay. I want it NOW! Lol. I'm bored. Hey maybe I could put it on before the socal meet on the 13th??
turboinduction
Nov 1, 2004 - 3:45 PM
Sorry Forkee, i'd like to process it now, but I promised the group that I would wait til the 15th to process orders. You should have it end of the month, very early next month.
-Ti
But, yeah i'm excited. I want to see all these Celis with vertical doors.
C3L1CA
Nov 1, 2004 - 3:57 PM
QUOTE |
NEVERSTOP Posted on Nov 1, 2004 - 12:45 AM To the person that already has installed this kit (blue celi with invader kit) or to neone else that has already asked this question...
How easy do the doors lift up? Like is it a jerky motion or is it nice and smooth?? also how much pressure is needs to be applied before the shock takes over?
and do you have to push the door out and then up or just open it and it goes from there?
same ?'s with closing it also
Thanks NEVER
|
The doors are very easy to lift up. When you first put them on the shocks are not broken in so they want to pop up right away. They start to break in after a couple of days. It is a very smooth motion, and not very much pressure needs to be applied. You have to push the door open to clear the interior panel then they go straight up. When closing you have to pull down kindof hard till it reaches the bottom then close it like a normal door. I say get them you get so many head turns it is just unbelievable. Shot from the side
turboinduction
Nov 1, 2004 - 4:01 PM
thanks C3L1CA, always best if it actually comes from someone who has them!
-Ti
frotou
Nov 1, 2004 - 4:58 PM
Some more informations ;
1-Do we need to removed the fender for the instalation ?
2-How is the fitting of the door when closed , like normal ?
Thanks
Claude
C3L1CA
Nov 1, 2004 - 5:09 PM
You need to remove the fender to take the stock hinges off and put the new hinges on, but when your door is closed it looks like normal. Nobody knows you have them until you open your doors, and people are like "DANG look at that"
turboinduction
Nov 1, 2004 - 5:50 PM
QUOTE (C3L1CA @ Nov 1, 2004 - 4:09 PM) |
You need to remove the fender to take the stock hinges off and put the new hinges on, but when your door is closed it looks like normal. Nobody knows you have them until you open your doors, and people are like "DANG look at that" |
umm .... ditto
you beat me to it
-Ti
DJMC_Celica
Nov 1, 2004 - 6:01 PM
In order to take off the fenders do we need to remove the front on the invader kit?
forkee
Nov 1, 2004 - 6:12 PM
Will it break if someone opens it fast and doesn't kno it goes up? Or if ur bringing it down and u don't know when it stops? Also, is it a sharp horizontal-vertical movement, like an L, or is it more of a guided curve, like a J.
One more thing, I've noticed with my trunk shocks, that when its left open for awhile, the grease along the outside of the shock dries up and its really hard to close the trunk. is it just me or does that happen to everyone too? Anyways, I was wondering if the same thing happens to the door shocks. Thanks.
C3L1CA
Nov 1, 2004 - 6:53 PM
The hinge itself shouldn't break the only thing i am worried about is my fenders cracking. They touch when the doors are all the way open but they will not break. The worst thing that can happen by not opening them right is your interior panels could rip.You can make it look like a J or an L depending on how you open it. I tell people to open it like an L so they don't rip my interior panels. I open it like a J because i am good. You adjust it so it can only go down so far. You just pull it down till it stops then shut it like a normal door. I haven't noticed it being harder to shut after they have been open like your hatch.
turboinduction
Nov 1, 2004 - 7:30 PM
I was going to say the same just out of experience with shocks. Basically is gonna be like he said. I wouldn't concern myself with it cracking the fender to much because the shock isn't THAT strong and its not like your throwing the door upward. If guests get it the car and dont know, they will open the door like normal, it'll stop.... they be taken back. Most that'll happen is that their hands will slip off the door handle. I'd probably say that your door handle itself would break before this kit, so its like me saying .... it wont break. Then you'll tell them to lift the door, they'll lift it like the hatch. So its not gonna fly towards the sky. Upon closing, you'll just pull the door down until it wont go futher, then close it like normal. Again, its not like someone is crashing down on the door to make it fall, it'll just be a slight tug and close.

As for your hatch, your shocks need replacing. The shocks are slightly leaking probalby due to age. It happens, not a biggy though. These shocks and parts have warranty on these, so dont worry about faulty parts!!!
Oh, as for the interior panels with this kit. According to Rob, the door will rest against the handle of the door. So it clears the vinyl and leather by a couple inches. Its possible your Decah kit didn't give you enough clearance. Remember guys, this kit was MADE for our cars, so they took in all of these factors. Thanks for helping out C3L1CA, its nice to have someone with experience talk about the kits.

-Ti
SilverCell94
Nov 1, 2004 - 8:02 PM
can i see a pic with both doors up from the back
thanks
forkee
Nov 1, 2004 - 10:25 PM
QUOTE (SilverCell94 @ Nov 1, 2004 - 6:02 PM) |
can i see a pic with both doors up from the back
thanks |
also, with the windows up. i havent seen one of those kinda pics yet.
C3L1CA
Nov 1, 2004 - 10:58 PM
Not the best but i'll try and get a better picture tommarow
SilverCell94
Nov 1, 2004 - 11:37 PM
QUOTE (C3L1CA @ Nov 1, 2004 - 8:58 PM) |
Not the best but i'll try and get a better picture tommarow
|
thanks for the pic,
dont mean to be a pain but can we also get a pic of the back one door at a time.
thanks
NEVERSTOP
Nov 2, 2004 - 12:33 AM
I would like a pic of where the door makes contact with the fenders
forkee
Nov 2, 2004 - 1:36 AM
also a pic of the inside of the drivers side raised door from passengers seat point of view (or vice versa). i think that would give a good idea of how high the door handle is. thanks for all the pics, btw. sorry to keep bugging.
My94RedCelica
Nov 2, 2004 - 3:14 AM
If you have an Invader bumper, well any bumper for that matter, you do have to remove it to take the fender off. There is a bracket with three screws that hold the fender dierectly to the bumper. then you have one screw inside your door jam, one underneath car on the bottom of the fender and the ones under the hood.
I have a question. I want to shave my door handles, will this kit interfere with any of that? Thanks.
neoklis
Nov 2, 2004 - 3:15 AM
hey Ti,
they say they include wire extensions in the kit. Any idea what that is and how it works?
turboinduction
Nov 2, 2004 - 9:37 AM
94RedCelica - shave em' and it'll look even better.
Neoklis - the wiring is just extentions, you just gotta splice and retape. Shouldn't be too hard. I'm checking on shipping for you.
turboinduction
Nov 2, 2004 - 9:41 PM
bumpy - lets get more
turboinduction
Nov 3, 2004 - 11:25 AM
1. Phat_99CeliGT
2. d3monc3lica
3. SilverCell94
4. neoklis
5. neoklis
6. neoklis
7. droptopGT
8. 946thgenGT
9. DJMC (also 100* conversion)
10. Forkee
11. Neverstop
12. My94RedCelica
13. Frotou
14.
Lets get more people
-Ti
turboinduction
Nov 3, 2004 - 5:10 PM
bump bump
NEVERSTOP
Nov 3, 2004 - 7:50 PM
*cough*
wants pics
*cough*
turboinduction
Nov 4, 2004 - 12:01 AM
QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Nov 3, 2004 - 6:50 PM) |
*cough*
wants pics
*cough*
|
cough* page 1 *cough
-Ti
NEVERSTOP
Nov 4, 2004 - 1:56 PM
*cough*
QUOTE |
I would like a pic of where the door makes contact with the fenders |
*cough*
My94RedCelica
Nov 4, 2004 - 3:38 PM
Riiiiiiiiicolaaaaa!
turboinduction
Nov 4, 2004 - 3:40 PM
QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Nov 4, 2004 - 12:56 PM) |
*cough*
QUOTE | I would like a pic of where the door makes contact with the fenders |
*cough* |
i'm actually goint to the Twin Cities this weekend and meeting C3L1CA at the U. I'll snap a couple pics of his doors when i meet him. And then I'll run away laughing. hahahhahaha.
-Ti
C3L1CA
Nov 4, 2004 - 3:43 PM
Sorry i haven't put any more pics up but i can't find my camera. When i find it i will take some pictures
playr158
Nov 5, 2004 - 12:35 AM
don't think i can get it by the 15th how is the situation on later dates?
turboinduction
Nov 5, 2004 - 9:59 AM
QUOTE (playr158 @ Nov 4, 2004 - 11:35 PM) |
don't think i can get it by the 15th how is the situation on later dates? |
I'm unsure. I really wanted this to be the only group buy until a much later date. Also, just a FYI to all. Racingseats.com was taken off eBay for being bad. And extreme doors.com closed their account because he was selling them under invoice. I was told to price these kits out (for eBay) at 950 + shipping. I'm gonna have to sit on that for a bit though. So, i'm not sure when my next group buy will be. Playr, do you think its a 2 weeks issue? I might be able to work with you if its a short term. Of course, this doesn't give everyone the right to do this, but let me know.
-Ti
turboinduction
Nov 5, 2004 - 10:00 AM
I asked Extremdoors.com some questions to help everyone out.
Questions:
1. How does the 100* Kit work
2. What exactly is the degree if we take the standard kit.
3. Does the door move up quick and does the hinge stop it or the interior stop the door.
4. Will there be problems with the door and the fender when its open fully.
5. If unknowing people try to open the door, will it break, or what will happen.
Replies:
1) As far as the angle conversion kit goes, they are still in the completion stages of R&D. What they are is an extension piece that bolts on to the tip of the lift shock. This allows the doors to lift more and at a greater angle.
2) The degree of the standard kit ranges from 45-70 degrees. Hard to tell
3) The door moves up slowly. It may have to be guide about a foot up before raising by itself. It is stopped by the shock.
4) The will be absolutely no problems with the door or the fender once fully opened. The door stays away from the fender and will not come close to scratching it.
5) The kit is made to withstand 500 pounds of force. Our kits our build to withhold accidentally opening the door unknowingly. It will just be like opening your door with regular hinges to much. Same idea. We have never had a kit break under any conditions including kits modified by the customer to fit a custom application.
-Ti
SilverCell94
Nov 5, 2004 - 11:11 AM
if you get the 45-70 degree standard kit, and you dont like the openong space is it fully upgradable to the 100 degree kit?
turboinduction
Nov 5, 2004 - 11:52 AM
QUOTE (SilverCell94 @ Nov 5, 2004 - 10:11 AM) |
if you get the 45-70 degree standard kit, and you dont like the openong space is it fully upgradable to the 100 degree kit? |
yes. If you buy the standard kit and think "i need more" then your more than welcome to purchase the 100* conversion. Also, when adding the 100* kit on, you dont need to take off your standard kit. It just adds right on. According to the answer that my rep gave me, it an additional peice on the shock for greater angle and futher distance.

-Ti
NEVERSTOP
Nov 6, 2004 - 12:45 AM
wonder if there would be a way to hook these up to a remote and some door poppers so you could get the door to raise all by itself....
kinda like angling the popper at the bottom corner of the back of the door well at a 45* angle
who knows.. just a thought
turboinduction
Nov 6, 2004 - 7:48 PM
QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Nov 5, 2004 - 11:45 PM) |
wonder if there would be a way to hook these up to a remote and some door poppers so you could get the door to raise all by itself....
kinda like angling the popper at the bottom corner of the back of the door well at a 45* angle
who knows.. just a thought |
I was thinking this too...
Might be possible. If you put a low resistance spring between the door and the frame. The use a autoloc popper. Door pops, spring pushes door past the 2 foot mark, shock should do the rest. Something to try.
-Ti
Lets get some more people in the group buy.
Consynx
Nov 6, 2004 - 11:13 PM
TI, catch me on AIM sometime tomorrow plz...

ConSynX is the name.
I want to try to get a lot of info on this, and possibly help ya
turboinduction
Nov 7, 2004 - 10:37 AM
QUOTE (Consynx @ Nov 6, 2004 - 10:13 PM) |
TI, catch me on AIM sometime tomorrow plz...  ConSynX is the name. I want to try to get a lot of info on this, and possibly help ya |
thanks - will do
I'm home in and out
name on Aim is "Ti Shift"
-Ti
SilverCell94
Nov 7, 2004 - 5:54 PM
QUOTE (turboinduction @ Nov 6, 2004 - 5:48 PM) |
QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Nov 5, 2004 - 11:45 PM) | wonder if there would be a way to hook these up to a remote and some door poppers so you could get the door to raise all by itself....
kinda like angling the popper at the bottom corner of the back of the door well at a 45* angle
who knows.. just a thought |
I was thinking this too...
Might be possible. If you put a low resistance spring between the door and the frame. The use a autoloc popper. Door pops, spring pushes door past the 2 foot mark, shock should do the rest. Something to try.
-Ti
Lets get some more people in the group buy.
|
auto lock has a kit out that is motorized with door poppers.
like all auto lock products (door poppers, suicide hoods, hinge relocation kits) they are 95% universal.
just google their site (dont know it off the top of my head) so you can get more info.
so what is the latest update on this? i really hope that this GB will work out and not a flop.
Consynx
Nov 7, 2004 - 5:59 PM
you seem to have some $$$
hatch and doors at once

Both of these are going through no matter what...simple as that
Phat_99CeliGT
Nov 7, 2004 - 7:22 PM
take me off the list for now man
im not getting my car back till spring, so im not putting anymore money into the Celi till i get it back.
maybe after next year ill get a door kit from ya.
turboinduction
Nov 7, 2004 - 7:34 PM
1. Frotou
2. d3monc3lica
3. SilverCell94
4. neoklis
5. neoklis
6. neoklis
7. droptopGT
8. 946thgenGT
9. DJMC (also 100* conversion)
10. Forkee
11. Neverstop
12. My94RedCelica
13.
Lets get more people
-Ti
I'd like this order to be more than 15
Consynx
Nov 7, 2004 - 8:01 PM
Neo is buying 3 kits...lol
that is hilarious
turboinduction
Nov 8, 2004 - 11:41 AM
Well its monday - I'm gonna start accepting payments today and through saturday.
Paypal is --- turboinduction@yahoo.com
PM if you need to do a MO.
-Ti
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