jgreening
Nov 3, 2005 - 4:39 PM
I went to the dyno today to get a baseline to compare my upcoming modifications (new turbo kit). To make a long story short, my car jumped the rollers and roasted a tire after the first pull. The dyno shop didn't charge me for the pull and is buying a replacement tire so all is good. Luckily, my rims that took 6 months to get did not get damaged. The car is fine except the tire.
Anyway, I will let you all guess my numbers just for fun.
Relevant mods:
2nd gen JDM 3sgte - ceramic ct26
5 angle valve job on otherwise stock head
huge FMIC
540 cc injectors with no aftermarket fuel control (JDM ECU)
2.5" mandrel bent exhast - secondary cat removed
stock primary cat
apexi intake
ebc at 14psi
4th gear pull
guess away at whp and ft/lbs of torque! I will post up the numbers later.
lagos
Nov 3, 2005 - 4:42 PM
im going to guess at a ballpark of 225hp/tq
jgreening
Nov 3, 2005 - 4:54 PM
By the way, here's Tim's (boosted_K2) thread where he got his 3s dyno'ed with a ct20b for comparison....
Tim's dyno results
BBoYRuGGeD
Nov 3, 2005 - 4:59 PM
yah my guess would also be around 230whp/tq
did u go rich a lil' bit when u hit the higher rpms cuz of the 540cc injectors w/o any management?
bboy
jgreening
Nov 3, 2005 - 5:01 PM
QUOTE(BBoYRuGGeD @ Nov 3, 2005 - 4:59 PM)
yah my guess would also be around 230whp/tq
did u go rich a lil' bit when u hit the higher rpms cuz of the 540cc injectors w/o any management?
bboy
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off the scale rich after 6000 rpms. This will be addressed as well...
presure2
Nov 3, 2005 - 5:01 PM
im gonna say in the 230whp range.
nik
Nov 3, 2005 - 5:02 PM
217 whp
220 torque
so let see the real numbers
BBoYRuGGeD
Nov 3, 2005 - 5:07 PM
ah i see...well i still say around 230whp/tq. did u get an EMS yet jay? and what new turbo u slapping on?
bboy
jgreening
Nov 3, 2005 - 5:13 PM
QUOTE(BBoYRuGGeD @ Nov 3, 2005 - 5:07 PM)
ah i see...well i still say around 230whp/tq. did u get an EMS yet jay? and what new turbo u slapping on?
bboy
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I have not bought the EMS but it is coming. I am buying an AEM. A GT28RS turbo will be installed very soon.
lagos
Nov 3, 2005 - 5:30 PM
wait ..what prize do we win if we guess right?
edit: and mr2 turbos normally dyno about 20hp less then jdm swaps do with the same mods.
lagos
Nov 3, 2005 - 5:33 PM
now i want to say 250 because no one really know whats done to your ecu and why you had 550cc injectors in there .
jgreening
Nov 3, 2005 - 5:34 PM
QUOTE(lagos @ Nov 3, 2005 - 5:30 PM)
wait ..what prize do we win if we guess right?
edit: and mr2 turbos normally dyno about 20hp less then jdm swaps do with the same mods.
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Here's the prize:
LOL
As for the hp comparison, remember, he had a ct20b....
jgreening
Nov 3, 2005 - 5:35 PM
QUOTE(lagos @ Nov 3, 2005 - 5:33 PM)
now i want to say 250 because no one really know whats done to your ecu and why you had 550cc injectors in there .
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250whp with a ct26? Nah.
lagos
Nov 3, 2005 - 5:42 PM
well you at least have to be in the 200-235 ball park at 14psi, or you have to have a massive boost leak or something.
he had a ct20b on a high milage usdm motor
nik
Nov 3, 2005 - 5:50 PM
so what are the numbers
jgreening
Nov 3, 2005 - 6:01 PM
QUOTE(nik @ Nov 3, 2005 - 5:50 PM)
so what are the numbers
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patience Nik....I will post them up after dinner tonight.... Perhaps some more people will want to take a guess....
nik
Nov 3, 2005 - 6:06 PM
ok i can wait
celiracer
Nov 3, 2005 - 6:40 PM
I'm guessing around 230 or 240 HP??
yungazzdriver
Nov 3, 2005 - 6:51 PM
236 hp and ........................and one pony
WannabeGT4
Nov 3, 2005 - 7:00 PM
219whp
jgreening
Nov 3, 2005 - 7:26 PM
And the answer is.....
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215 whp and 243 ft/lbs.
Defgeph
Nov 3, 2005 - 7:28 PM
Awesome numbers. I was going to guess that if I had got here sooner.
Congrats man, sorry to hear about your tire. Get it to the strip before the new turbo.
Awesome job Jay
jgreening
Nov 3, 2005 - 9:17 PM
Thanks Jeff. I was expecting low 200's for both figures so I was pleasantly surprised....
Supersprynt
Nov 3, 2005 - 9:31 PM
lagos
Nov 3, 2005 - 9:59 PM
pretty good, but i think you could unlock a lot more power with a 3in downpipe and 3in exhaust
jgreening
Nov 3, 2005 - 10:12 PM
QUOTE(lagos @ Nov 3, 2005 - 9:59 PM)
pretty good, but i think you could unlock a lot more power with a 3in downpipe and 3in exhaust
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smiles...will be installed along with new turbo in 2005.
Batman722
Nov 3, 2005 - 10:35 PM
QUOTE(jgreening @ Nov 3, 2005 - 8:26 PM)
And the answer is.....
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215 whp and 243 ft/lbs.
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awesome #s Jay, must be extremely fun to drive
jgreening
Nov 3, 2005 - 10:44 PM
Thanks Dustin. It is fun....but I am ready for a little upgrade
Interestingly, I searched for the thread I started right after the swap was done. In that thread, I predicted whp at 220-230 and Tim (boosted2k) estimated 210-215. I guess he wins the cookie! (although I doubt he would have predicted the torque figure either)
My swap thread
BBoYRuGGeD
Nov 3, 2005 - 11:28 PM
holy crap jay ur pulling in some crazy torque! lol sweet! i think ud have pulled in higher HP numbers if u had some kinda tuning since ive read 3SGTE runs rich after 12 PSI. but damn bro real nice numbers! let me know how the AEM EMS is when u get it...im "curious"
bboy
jgreening
Nov 3, 2005 - 11:57 PM
QUOTE(BBoYRuGGeD @ Nov 3, 2005 - 11:28 PM)
let me know how the AEM EMS is when u get it...im "curious"
bboy
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Will do. Just to let you know, I am not getting the AEM right away unless the new turbo dictates that I do so.
lagos
Nov 4, 2005 - 12:34 AM
do you havea copy of the dyno sheet you can post up with an a/f ratio ?
jgreening
Nov 4, 2005 - 8:46 AM
QUOTE(lagos @ Nov 4, 2005 - 12:34 AM)
do you havea copy of the dyno sheet you can post up with an a/f ratio ?
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Yea, but not in soft copy yet. The dyno operator is suppose to be emailing it to me.
nik
Nov 4, 2005 - 10:52 AM
QUOTE(nik @ Nov 3, 2005 - 3:02 PM)
217 whp
220 torque
so let see the real numbers
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Nov 3, 2005 - 5:26 PM)
And the answer is.....
215 whp and 243 ft/lbs.
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yeah i was the closes to the whp can i get half a cookie
vangSTa_celica
Nov 4, 2005 - 11:53 AM
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smiles...will be installed along with new turbo in 2005.
It is 2005.
jgreening
Nov 4, 2005 - 1:58 PM
QUOTE(vangSTa_celica @ Nov 4, 2005 - 11:53 AM)
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smiles...will be installed along with new turbo in 2005.
It is 2005.
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And there are 60 days left in the year. What is your point?
vangSTa_celica
Nov 4, 2005 - 3:19 PM
I thought you meant 2006. So from what you're saying then, is that your turbo project is already underway, or am I having a hard time comprehending English?
jgreening
Nov 4, 2005 - 3:43 PM
QUOTE(vangSTa_celica @ Nov 4, 2005 - 3:19 PM)
I thought you meant 2006. So from what you're saying then, is that your turbo project is already underway, or am I having a hard time comprehending English?
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Definitely hard time comprehending English. Perhaps I could have stated it more clearly. Lets try this: my turbo project (and new exhaust) is not installed or underway yet. The exhaust components are obtained, however. The entire project will be complete by the end of the year.
vangSTa_celica
Nov 4, 2005 - 3:59 PM
Ahhhhhhh. Me understand now. Back to cave.
nik
Nov 4, 2005 - 4:04 PM
so what do you think you'll make on the new set up around 250-260 whp? and close to 290-300 torque?
jgreening
Nov 4, 2005 - 4:15 PM
QUOTE(nik @ Nov 4, 2005 - 4:04 PM)
so what do you think you'll make on the new set up around 250-260 whp? and close to 290-300 torque?
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My goals are a modest 280whp / 280ft/lbs at 17psi with 200 ft/lbs before 2900 RPMs.
My next project car will not have a lag issue.
jgreening
Nov 5, 2005 - 2:30 AM
Here is the graph I got yesterday. The dyno operator told me he was going to email me the run files but he never did. This graph doesn't include the air/fuel ratio and was mapped against MPH rather than RPM's. 200 ft/lbs is reached right at 3000 RPMs.
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