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jasonrobo02
Hey all,

I've searched and I haven't been able to come up with an answer to what may be causing the CEL on my 1994. The CEL comes on once in awhile. I haven't noticed any change in driveability or gas mileage. The light will go off after turning off the car and will stay off until another "trip condition" occurs maybe 10 or 100 miles later. The code is stored in memory though and will blink a 25 when I jumper the diagnostic port.

I have recently replaced the 02 sensor and no change. I was hoping that someone had some insight as to what may be causing the CEL.

Thanks in advance for any help.
Bitter
could be a vac leak, sticky injector, bad fuel pump, clogged fuel filter, bad new O2 sensor (was it OEM Denso or universal?)
hurley97
maybe try cleaning your fuel injectors
jasonrobo02
QUOTE(Bitter @ Oct 30, 2006 - 10:27 PM) [snapback]497836[/snapback]

could be a vac leak, sticky injector, bad fuel pump, clogged fuel filter, bad new O2 sensor (was it OEM Denso or universal?)



It was a universal 02 sensor. But my thinking is if the sensor was bad, a more specific 02 sensor code would trip.

I did a 5 minute visual of the vacuum lines and none seemed to be cracked or anything. But maybe a more indepth check will turn something up.

Thanks. I guess I'll have my hands full tomorrow trying to check these things out.
hitcachi
Off the top of my head, I believe code 25 to be EGR system related.
celicadude04
I'm having this same problem, does anyone know what to do?
wrathc5525
if it was a vacuum leak something that my automotive teacher said you could do is to take and get a propane torch and start the car turn the propane on but leave the flame off and go over the vacuum lines with it seeing how it is a vacuum line when the propane passes over a leak the propane will get sucked in and you will here a change in rpm when you go over the leak
celicadude04
I pretty sure code 25 is Air/Fuel Ratio Lean Malfunction. I have already changed my primary o2 sensor, but I still keep throwing a code. It seems to come on and off randomly. The only thing I can think of that maybe causing it is that I stripped back some insulation on the wire going to the oxygen sensor when I was hooking up and Air Fuel ratio gauge. I unhooked the gauge and wrapped the area of the stripped wire with electrical tape and changed the o2 sensor but I am still getting the code. Any help would be very much appreciated.
Batman722
change your fuel filter and run some injector cleaner though your system.
wrathc5525
12 ............... No "G", "G1", "G2" or "NE" Ignition Signal To ECM
Within 2 Seconds After Engine Is Cranked,
No "G" Ignition Signal To ECM For 3 Seconds
With Engine Speed Of 600-4000 RPM
Open In "G-" Circuit
13 ............................. No "NE" Ignition Signal To ECM When
Engine Speed Is Greater Than Approximately 1000 RPM,
No "G" Ignition Signal To ECM When "NE" Signal
Is Input 4 Times With Engine Speed Of 600-4000 RPM
14 .................... No "IG" Or "IGF" Ignition Signal To ECM From
Ignitor Several Times In Succession
16 ...................... Fault In Transmission/Transaxle ECU Or ECM
21 .............................. Defective O2 Sensor, Open Or Short
Circuit In O2 Sensor Signal
22 ......................... Open Or Short Circuit In Engine Coolant
Temperature Sensor Signal
24 ......... Open Or Short Circuit In Intake Air Temp. Sensor Signal
25 ............... Lean Signal Sent By O2 Sensor For Several Seconds
26 ............... Rich Signal Sent By O2 Sensor For Several Seconds
27 ................... Open Or Short Circuit In Sub-O2 Sensor Signal
28 ............................................ Defective O2 Sensor,
Open Or Short Circuit In O2 Sensor Signal
31 ................................ Open Or Short Circuit In Airflow
Meter Or MAP Sensor Signal
32 ........... Open Or Short Circuit Between Airflow Meter Terminals
34 ............................... Turbocharger Pressure Is Abnormal
35 ................. Open Or Short Circuit In Turbocharging Pressure
Sensor, MAP Sensor Or BARO Sensor
41 ........ Open Or Short Circuit In Throttle Position Sensor Signal
42 ............................. No Signal From Vehicle Speed Sensor
For Several Seconds
43 ..................... No "STA" Signal To ECM Until Engine Reaches
800 RPM With Engine Cranking
47 .... Open Or Short Circuit In Sub-Throttle Position Sensor Signal
51 ............... (2) Problem In One Of 3 Circuits Monitored By ECM
52 .................... Open Or Short Circuit In Knock Sensor Signal
53 .................................. Knock Control In ECM Is Faulty
55 .................... Open Or Short Circuit In Knock Sensor Signal
71 ................................... EGR Gas Temperature Less Than
Predetermined Level During EGR Control
78 ...................... Open Or Short Circuit In Fuel Pump Control
Circuit Or Fuel Pump Electronic Control Unit (ECU)
81 ................. Open In ECT1 Circuit Between ECM & Transmission
Control Module (TCM) For At Least 2 Seconds
83 ................. Open In ESA1 Circuit Between ECM & Transmission
Control Module (TCM) For 1/2 Second After
Engine Idles At Least 1/2 Second
84 ................. Open In ESA2 Circuit Between ECM & Transmission
Control Module (TCM) For 1/2 Second After
Engine Idles At Least 1/2 Second
85 ................. Open In ESA3 Circuit Between ECM & Transmission
Control Module (TCM) For 1/2 Second After
Engine Idles At Least 1/2 Second
(1) - Listed are possible areas causing trouble codes. Not all
trouble codes are used on all models.
(2) - Throttle position sensor, Park/Neutral switch and A/C Signal
circuits are monitored.

here i hope this helps this is from the service tech manual
celicadude04
I changed both o2 sensors, heat shrinked the wire where I stripped the instulation off, changed the fuel filter, and put some premium gas and a bottle of injector cleaner in and I still keep getting the code anymore suggestions?
wrathc5525
it could be that one of your injectors is sticking closed or for some reason there is to much air going through your system could be a cracked exhaust manifold sucking in air then when the car warms up it closes the manifold expands causing the crack to close up which could cause the o2 to read lean for a little bit
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