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Hanyo
how do you properly flush the cooling system of a car?

I know the basics like hook up a garden hose and run water through the system as the engine is runing and heater on to help remove all the rust and containaments in there.

But what do you do with all that radiator fluid? You can't just let that drain into the storm drains.


And your not suppose to get hard water into the cooling system, that is why distilled water is needed. And flushing the cooling with gallons and gallons of distilled water will be very costly....

What about those chemicals you can buy?

What is the best way to do it? To be honest i dont trust those jiffy lube shops to flush my car, they probably wont use distilled water...

hurley97
yeah but jiffy lube won't use a garden hose

go to the dealer, it'll cost you like $160, which is probably about the same as anywhere else. They hook up the car to a machine that pumps it all out and pumps the new fluid in. I don't think I would even try the garden hose idea.
Bitter
dealer wont use distilled either lol, they'll just pull your heater hoses, hookup the garden hose, and shove the water through the heater core backwards and forwards, then do the same to the block and radiator.


the key is to then blow compressed air through gently to remove the hard water.
GriffGirl
Not for nothin, but sometimes you do what you gotta do. I ran a hose on my '87 Pathfinder, and it worked just fine. I don't know if my water is hard or not, that will vary from locale to locale. If you're really concerned about hard water deposits, you can buy a water softener, I believe it's actually a salt type of stuff... but it doesn't make the water salty. My mom lives in Vegas where the water is so hard you need a chisel for it... she's got a special tank that takes the salt stuff (maybe it's just in her hot water heater, I don't remember) and the water is used throughout the house. No salty showers or tooth brushing though.
azian_advanced
i flushed my system using a garden hose through the heater lines, and radiator. then i used Gunk coolant flush for 20 mins and flushed it out again with the hose. then i used toyota prediluted pink coolant to fill the cooling system.
after all that, my heater works much much better than before, i'm actually looking forward to -40 degree weather to compare how it was like before.
njccmd2002
how do you exactly connect to the heater hoses
rjbibeau
they sell a kit with a 3/4" garden thread connector that has two barb t's.
CelicaST_CALI
all i do is drain freeze,ran water through system,then put coolant in and run the engine for a while and add more and thats it!!!
SilvertopST
I actually work at jiffy lube, and we do the same as any dealership when it comes to flushing a coolant system. Our store is a stand up shop and we do everything by the book, i cant say the same for others stores tho.
azian_advanced
i have a narrow garden hose nozzle and i basically cupped my hand around the end of the nozzle joining the heater line hose.
whatever works..
Hanyo
the main reason i ask this question is because people spend money on distilled water to hope that there will not be any funk chemical that will cause the engine to rust, corroide or oxidize. And using toyota red coolent is proven to help keep metals from oxidizing and what not, But that only holds true if there is nothing else in the coolant. If your water is treated like most cities, there will be clorine, calcium, salt and other junk that will be in the water. So why bother spending extra money on toyota coolant when you can not get a complete clean cooling system?

No matter how you flush your system you will have unknown chemicals in there.

I personally flush many cooling systems my self and know the steps on how to do it. But I can't seem to find a "clean" way to do it.


QUOTE (SilvertopST @ May 12, 2008 - 5:33 PM) *
I actually work at jiffy lube, and we do the same as any dealership when it comes to flushing a coolant system. Our store is a stand up shop and we do everything by the book, i cant say the same for others stores tho.



Does your shop use tap water ( or water from the cities water lines) to flush the coolant systems?
SilvertopST
we just use the water from the city, as i'm sure most other places will do as well.
mikew04
What do you do with the waste water?
Bitter
you're all acting like the cooling system needs to be perfect and sterile and the tiniest bit of minerals or chlorine is going to to totally destroy the engine, no matter what theres ALWAYS a little of something in there. right from the factory theres a little oil in your cooling system, some dust, some dirt, etc.
SL44
Previously had a '94 GT that developed a radiator leak. Replaced it 6 or 7 times with a "1800radiator.com" replacement. Stuck with them 'cause of the lifetime warranty. Lost that one in a crash and now have a '98 GT that I'm more cautious with. Last year did the timing belt & pulleys and the water pump while I was at it. Started with draining coolant from the radiator; could not loosen the engine drain plug so I had to go through multiple fill & drain sequences using tap water from a "Pur" water filter. Used filtered water 'cause I have pretty hard water in So Cal.

Have plenty of containers available to collect the drained stuff. In LA county we can take this to a haz mat round-up. Ask your parts store about what to do with the waste. Pay attention to how much drains out and compare it to the stated capacity; I was able to get a little more than 50 % out at one time. Drained and filled a couple times and then used 2 bottles (I think 20 oz. per bottle) of Prestone's flush (citric acid) and ran the engine to normal operating temp with the heater fully opened. Then did multiple fill-heat-drain to get the concentration down to 1 to 2% The math isn't too hard: 50, 25, 12.5, 7, 3.5, 2, 1%; so 6 or 7 fill-heat-drain sequences were enough. Once down to the smaller %'s, the drained liquid went into the toilet.

Did this a year ago and the temp gauge still doesn't budge above the usual spot; and it's about 100° this weekend in So Cal.
njccmd2002
QUOTE (ExSane @ Oct 9, 2006 - 2:20 AM) *
Installing a Radiator isn't hard at all. It's basically bolt off and bolt on. You need the radiator to be cool before removing it becuz you don't want to burn your hands.
  1. Start by draining the coolant out of the engine by draining the coolant from the radiator. You need to look for the drain plug (It looks like a small white plastic piece shaped like a handle). I have a ST so the drain plug is located on the bottom passenger side on the Radiator. Let it drain out completely!
  2. Now, tighten the drain plug again. Fill the Radiator with water. You do not have to fill it all the way full. Just enough to rinse all the dirty or used coolant out.
  3. Next, turn on the car and let it run for about 20 seconds and then turn off the car. Now unplug the drain plug again and let all the coolant drain out completely.
  4. Next, unplug both rubber hoses that are attached to your radiator by loosening the clamps. They are the TWO big BLACK hoses. Just unplug them from the Radiator, not the engine. There are TWO of them. One on top and the other on the bottom of the radiator. Also, don't forget the Coolant Reserve Hose which is located next to the Radiator Cap.
  5. Next, unbolt the TWO Radiator Mounts on top. They are the two mounts that are holding the Radiator onto the front frame. The Radiator should completely be loose by now unless they are bolted onto something else that you need to unbolt. Just be careful when taking the Radiator out becuz it has TWO Radiator Pads on the bottom to mount it perfectly. DO NOT LOSE THOSE! YOU WILL NEED THEM FOR THE NEW RADIATOR!
  6. Now, you have to unbolt the TWO Radiator Fans off of the Radiator. I think it's about 3 to 4 bolts. You should be able to take out the whole Radiator at this point.
  7. Take out the old Radiator carefully. Remove the the TWO Radiator Pads on the bottom from the old Radiator and mount them on the new Radiator.
  8. Now, install the TWO Radiator Fans back onto the new Radiator. Please make sure any sensor/plugs are correctly connected on the Fans. Afterwards, carefully mount the new Radiator correctly and accordingly. The TWO Radiator Pads should be resting at their original positions which should make the whole radiator mount correctly.
  9. Now, mount the TWO Radiator Mounts and bolt them back onto the front frame.
  10. Next, plug back all Radiator Hoses. Make sure the clamps are tightened and they are secure.
  11. Now, take off the Radiator Cap and fill the Radiator up with coolant. Make sure the coolant reaches all the way to your Radiator Cap hole. Close the Radiator Cap and turn on the car. Let the car run for about 20 seconds and then turn it off. Remove the Radiator Cap and pour in more coolant if necessary.
And there you have it! Enjoy your new Radiator!!!


I hope this quick-through helps. I don't have any pictures considering that I did it two months ago. Enjoy.



found this so i decided to give proper credit.


My first drain was about 1 gallon, donk know if its ok, maybe some of it is still in the blok, so i refilled it with prestone 50 50 and ran it for 30 seconds.

am about to drain it again. i guess putting coolant instead of water is beter. I will redrain and install my rad. When i do the swap i will do better flush.
97celiman
hahaha im stuck on step 1
Bitter
does the 7afe have a block drain plug on it somewhere?
delusionz
I bought a 10L container of distilled water for my 1st Celica car and my mechanic told me it was a waste and I might aswell drink it.. Then I realised, This is stupid, I treat my cars better than my own body.
Bitter
your body can heal itself, your car can not.
reko
They sell rad cleaner at canadian tire...

flush prestone, add it with water, run engine for 15 min, flush and add new prestone tadam
FreddyTheOthaMeat
the way i did my radiator fluid was i
A: took radiator cap off
b: undid petcock (haha) on underside of radiator to drain fluid
c: drained fluid.
d: tightened petcock(bwahaha) and begin dumping in 50/50 mix of fluids
e: user upper and lower radiator hoses and squeeze out air
f: have a beer or ten
g: start car make sure it doesnt blow up
h: repeat step f as needed. see image.
CelicaST_CALI
QUOTE (FreddyTheOthaMeat @ Jul 2, 2008 - 8:56 AM) *
the way i did my radiator fluid was i
A: took radiator cap off
b: undid petcock (haha) on underside of radiator to drain fluid
c: drained fluid.
d: tightened petcock(bwahaha) and begin dumping in 50/50 mix of fluids
e: user upper and lower radiator hoses and squeeze out air
f: have a beer or ten
g: start car make sure it doesnt blow up
h: repeat step f as needed. see image.

WRONG,u only do water to rinse it out smile.gif stupid drunks
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