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trebilihp
So I woke up this morning, feeling great and heading to a TRD meet looking for some supra action. Then I heard this sqeaky sound coming from under the hood. At first I tought it was a drivebelt slipping, but when the car came a little hotter, it didn't stop. I pulled over to have a look under that hood and noticed that a little smoke was coming out of the timing belt cover. I think it's coming from the water pump and that the bearing might be weared.

Has anyone of you guys experienced this before? What do you think about this and can I still drive it a little just to get to a good garage? Since I don't have time neither the tools to do it myself...

Thanks for looking!
95celicastLSR
QUOTE (trebilihp @ Oct 2, 2010 - 8:48 PM) *
So I woke up this morning, feeling great and heading to a TRD meet looking for some supra action. Then I heard this sqeaky sound coming from under the hood. At first I tought it was a drivebelt slipping, but when the car came a little hotter, it didn't stop. I pulled over to have a look under that hood and noticed that a little smoke was coming out of the timing belt cover. I think it's coming from the water pump and that the bearing might be weared.

Has anyone of you guys experienced this before? What do you think about this and can I still drive it a little just to get to a good garage? Since I don't have time neither the tools to do it myself...

Thanks for looking!

well i had the exact same thing but no sqeaky noise just started to smell like burnt rubber so i pulled over and shut car off right away and after looking under hood and seen smoke coming from timing belt cover i dint drive it had it towed and once apart i seen the timing belt tentioner pully locked up and the belt was sliding over it .... hope that helps but good luck man..
trebilihp
I asked a mecanics i know and he told me the sound would come from the water pump wich would spill some coolant that would burn on the engine, near the cover. But it is sure that i'll take a look under the cover to see what's happening with the timing belt before anything else. The sound really seems to be coming from a weared bearing tought. I'll keep you up with this. Thanks!
mgnt232
timing belt and water pump is... not fun work with the 7a frown.gif. And could cost a pretty penny, depending on the shop.
My timing belt went about a week after i fixed everything for a month lol. But I was quoted like $525. I only went to one shop though and decided to do it myself. But a warning it could be costly
trebilihp
525 only for the timing belt job?
mgnt232
Yupp. But you may as well do the water pump while ur in there, not any more work.
I only went to one shop a few miles from me, figuring it wouldnt be much. And the "flat rate" hours to do it, came to like 525
Spider77
Im sure you could source the parts for around 100 or so (belt, tensioners, gaskets, springs, water pump, etc). But yeah, alot of places charge the proverbial "arm and a leg" for work. Add parts, plus 70-90 an hour/labor and it adds up quick. With parts, a friend, and a guide (chiltons, BGB, 6gc threads) you can have it done in about a day for 1/4 the price.
trebilihp
My timing belt is 10 000km old and cost me 175$ CAD all done... Think you should change garage tongue.gif . I think my problem would only be the water pump, but I will chek if smthg's wrong with the belt while being in there. The thing is I could do it myself, but it would be pretty long cause I'd check like 10 times each move I make to be sure it's well done. I also don't have time to do this with university stuffs...
trebilihp
Yeah, already have the Haynes manual, also have the friend and the threads, but time is missing! You think I could get all the parts for aprox. 100 bucks? That'd make my day! smile.gif The thing about the labour cost is that I know a good mecanics who works for 40$/hr so it isn't so bad if he takes like 2.5hrs to do it... If only I can finaly reach him!

I'll try to get him tomorrow, or else I might take all tuesday long to do it by myself... Would a rebuilt pump do the job?

Thanks for your support guys
Spider77
Well, im not 100% of the Can to US exhange rate, but I looked up the parts before I posted and yeah bout 100 bucks for a timing job (parts....including pump)
jeffrosie



wrong post
trebilihp
My mecanics says he can do it, parts and job for 350$ total, approx 200$ for the labour... If only I had time and no studies... I might head this way and burn that 200$
stephen_lee
bud, your water pump is NOT under the timing cover.
standing at the passenger wheel facing the motor, left to right, there are 3 pulleys at the top portion of the motor
1. The alternator
2. Water pump
3. Power steering.

i had a bad tensioner (locked up) and it did the same thing. smell the smoke. if its sweet smelling, its coolant, if it smells like burnt rubber... then it is prob your timing belt melting away..
trebilihp
I know its not under the cover tongue.gif , but it could be a small leak of coolant from the pump, burning somewhere and smoke coming up, passing trought the cover or smthg like that I tought. Yeah, about the smell, the thing is that it dosen't smell alot, but the thing i'm sure is that it doesn't smell burnt rubber. That's why my first hypothese was the water pump. Sometimes, it looks more like some kind of fume than thick smoke.. So I guess it could be like small drops of coolant. I took a quick look at the timing belt by pulling the upper part of the cover and it didn't seemed weared. I'll get this all checked friday and I'll give you some feedback. Thanks alot!
trebilihp
So like some of you guys said, it was actually the timing belt bender that was jammed. So it'll cost abit less that I tought. In some strange way, the belt wasn't weared much so I don't have to change it... Anyways, it's only 10000km old so. Thanks for all the infos guys!
95celicastLSR
QUOTE (trebilihp @ Oct 8, 2010 - 11:32 PM) *
So like some of you guys said, it was actually the timing belt bender that was jammed. So it'll cost abit less that I tought. In some strange way, the belt wasn't weared much so I don't have to change it... Anyways, it's only 10000km old so. Thanks for all the infos guys!

wow who ever told u ur belt was not weared to much needs to get out of mechanic industry ... any good tech would know to change it cause who knows when it was last changed plus if it was wearing enough to smoke ???? yeah common sense would tell u to change it !!! just my professional 2 cents..... its called preventative maint...
trebilihp
You did not read that it was changed 10k ago and I saw it fume a little two times only... Chill out a little man.
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