bsamps4
Jan 8, 2011 - 11:24 PM
Hello All! I'm excited to announce that I too will be joining the small percentage of 3sgte swapped Celica's. I purchased my 3sgte engine clip yesterday "Friday", and will receive it this coming Wednesday. I'll start my swap the last week of January due to accrued vacation that I've earned at work. In my short time on 6gc I've spent my time reading up on similar swaps so that I could learn as much as possible. I don't think i'll be able to be up in running in two days like some of the gear-heads on this site, but I certainly hope that I have the privilege to post, and work with some of the masterminds that make this site so great.
The Car:
94 Celica GT. Currently with 224,000 miles on it. The 5s still runs like a top, but I originally purchased this car to complete a 3sgte swap. I was given the privilege of driving a JDM 3rd Gen Celica RC (right hand drive...the whole 9), and I've been in love since then.
I've owned two integra's. One GS-R, and the other a GS. I learned to love Honda, but have come to realize that Toyota is WAY better. I love my car and can't wait to get started.
I'll start updates and pics as soon as I get my clip.
Please feel free...I value your feedback, and understand that I know a fraction of the information that some of the great minds on this site know!
4VS0y
DEATH
Jan 8, 2011 - 11:26 PM
Awesome bro - welcome to the dark side!!!
Did you get a 2nd gen RC or a 3rd gen WRC? I'm confused by what you wrote.
Expect gremlins but have the balls to work through them and it'll all be sooooo worth it! If you need any advice - please feel free to hit me up anytime.
Post tons of pics and updates
Smaay
Jan 8, 2011 - 11:30 PM
awesome, post lots of pictures and updates
bsamps4
Jan 8, 2011 - 11:40 PM
hahahaha....No car project goes without the necessary GREMLINS....Murphy's law is a b****. I'm sure i'll be asking tons of questions, but I really appreciate all of the early support. If there is anything I can do for any of you guys please feel free to ask. I'm sure I'll have lots of parts for sale!!!
bsamps4
Jan 9, 2011 - 12:35 AM
Ooops...forgot to add. It's a 3rd gen RC
DEATH
Jan 9, 2011 - 12:38 AM
therre is no 3rd gen RC
it's either 2nd gen RC or 3rd gen WRC
bsamps4
Jan 9, 2011 - 10:14 AM
Haha wow shows how much I know. Should be a wrc. Anyone wanna help explain all of the differences? All I know is that this engine is a 94+, has a top mount water-cooler, ct20b turbo, and single-runner plenum.
presure2
Jan 9, 2011 - 10:35 AM
the search function and stickys are your friend.
there are quite a few threads that explain the diffrences between the 2nd, 3rd and 4th gen motors, and the normal 2nd and 3rd gen and rc/wrc versions.
bsamps4
Jan 9, 2011 - 1:56 PM
Research complete. Def a 3rd gen. Not a wrc.
DEATH
Jan 9, 2011 - 2:34 PM
QUOTE (bsamps4 @ Jan 9, 2011 - 12:56 PM)
Research complete. Def a 3rd gen. Not a wrc.
GOOD JOB!!!!
It's so refreshing to see someone take that advice and actually run with it and report back - keep that up and your swap will, literally, go far! [Pun intended]
bsamps4
Jan 10, 2011 - 2:20 PM
Now I'm beginning to get nervous....the company shipping my half-cut are having issues with getting the item to me on time. They quoted me a very low price for shipping, which I've already paid, but are now giving me the run around on shipping costs....
Then it also occurred to me....I have a viper alarm with remote start.....and i'm wondering how this is going to impact my swap....
I HATE being nervous.
bsamps4
Jan 10, 2011 - 3:57 PM
Part No: Pump GSS-341 & Set Up Kit 400-760
Fits: 91-95 MR2
Description:
Walbro Fuel Pumps are direct replacements and all wiring is a plug in. They flow 255L/HR which is much larger then your stock. The pump is good for up to 400whp.
This is the Walbro pump that i'm going to purchase to use for my swap since the one for the 5s will be insufficient. Anyone see any problems with this part number?
I've also planned on using my stock hood for the time being, and simply using spacers to lift the hood in the back to fit the water to air exchanger.
I've been reading several different threads on the wiring required for the set up....clutch switch, IC Relay, Fuel Pump Relay, and wire extensions. To be honest....this freaks me out. Electrical work is one area where I lack confidence. I learn by doing on-hand work and being shown in person, but all the pictures I've seen so far have led me to more confusion. I'm sure I'll figure it out.
Presure2....your write up on the wiring was wonderful...if you don't mind, I'll likely have a lot of questions for you in the future. I hope this doesn't lead to any kind of headache for you.
With that all said...I just received word from the company shipping my clip, and the item will be shipped today! I ended up having to pay an extra 161 dollars for shipping, which kind of pissed me off, but having the motor, and getting started is very important to me.
Cheers!
DEATH
Jan 10, 2011 - 10:35 PM
QUOTE (bsamps4 @ Jan 10, 2011 - 2:57 PM)
Presure2....your write up on the wiring was wonderful...if you don't mind, I'll likely have a lot of questions for you in the future. I hope this doesn't lead to any kind of headache for you.
Pretty sure he's used to it - we all are. You've got the right idea to be courteous - the best way to do that is to search ten times before you ask one question
I'm available to you as a resource also - anything you need to know LMK.
bsamps4
Jan 10, 2011 - 10:38 PM
I really appreciate the support. You can't find that on many forums, which is why I decided to go with this forum. I'm just glad that after successfully completing this swap I too will become a valuable resource for people in my current position.
bsamps4
Jan 10, 2011 - 10:50 PM
The soon to be patient....
Ted95
Jan 10, 2011 - 11:36 PM
sweert deal bro, good luck with the swap!
Euphoria
Jan 10, 2011 - 11:59 PM
Looks sweet! You should keep it looking fairly stock and sleeperish
and maybe put some clear lights and JDM tails in later.
bsamps4
Jan 11, 2011 - 12:05 AM
Stambo
Jan 11, 2011 - 10:37 PM
Bounced around quite a bit from manufacturers i see. Its cool to see people who are interested in all cars and not just certain car makers.
Good luck with the swap there are plenty of people to ask questions if needed!
bsamps4
Jan 11, 2011 - 10:47 PM
Haha...very true....one common theme though. They are all Japanese.
bsamps4
Jan 12, 2011 - 10:07 AM
Clip arrives today. Will post pics. Stay tuned.
bsamps4
Jan 12, 2011 - 10:02 PM
bsamps4
Jan 12, 2011 - 10:27 PM
presure2
Jan 13, 2011 - 7:29 AM
the last pic is body harness...you dont need that to swap.
but the heat exchager for the intercooler looks wasted.
bsamps4
Jan 13, 2011 - 9:41 AM
The heat exchanger was in good order in the pictures that caused me tp purchase the item. Disputing with that company now.
bsamps4
Jan 14, 2011 - 10:33 AM
Would anyone happen to have a decent heat exchanger laying around???
presure2
Jan 14, 2011 - 10:58 AM
you can use a mustang cobra heat exchanger, they are available on ebay all the time, and fit the opening on the celica bumper well.
bsamps4
Jan 14, 2011 - 11:06 AM
wait...really?? I just looked. They are very inexpensive! Will the water lines line up? Or is this a custom installation through and through?
bsamps4
Jan 14, 2011 - 11:14 AM
presure, what kind of oil cooler would you recommend, since mine is badly damaged?
presure2
Jan 14, 2011 - 11:30 AM
QUOTE (bsamps4 @ Jan 14, 2011 - 11:06 AM)
wait...really?? I just looked. They are very inexpensive! Will the water lines line up? Or is this a custom installation through and through?
the water lines will not line up, but not a big deal, 3/4" ID hose works just fine, and of course you would need to fab up mounting brackets.
which oil cooler are you talking about? the engine oil cooler that is attached to the block?
or the tranny oil cooler thats shown in the pics, or the power steering cooler thats also in your pics?
bsamps4
Jan 15, 2011 - 11:43 PM
Turns out I got lucky I have wrc I have number 3451
Keiri
Jan 16, 2011 - 7:42 PM
QUOTE (bsamps4 @ Jan 15, 2011 - 11:43 PM)
Turns out I got lucky I have wrc I have number 3451
Congrats! Would you mind a Fayetteville member coming over to stare at this beauty...and help with the elbow grease?
bsamps4
Jan 16, 2011 - 9:07 PM
Stambo
Jan 16, 2011 - 9:38 PM
is that a anti lag system?
bsamps4
Jan 16, 2011 - 9:40 PM
yea
chacha
Jan 16, 2011 - 10:56 PM
turn it on
bsamps4
Jan 16, 2011 - 10:57 PM
Hahaha....wish I could...i think i'll just hold onto it for decoration
mkernz22
Jan 17, 2011 - 1:05 AM
you gotta use that anti lag system when you get it man! not much of them around, it's almost a luxury to have it so you should definitely use it
3WayStunna
Jan 17, 2011 - 1:05 AM
Lol, ditch that ABS yo...you dont need it
ST205WRC
Jan 17, 2011 - 2:58 AM
yeah its an anti-lag system that doesnt work. its not worth the time or money to make it work, because it requires a standalone system. not to mention the hell it puts the turbo through. the time and money can be made more useful in other places.
good luck with it progress looks great. you'll love that 3gen. much easier to work with from what ive seen so far.
bsamps4
Jan 17, 2011 - 10:23 AM
I had considered getting the ant-lag to work, but did a lot of reading into it....i can't afford to blow turbo's on a weekly basis haha. I'll likely replace the turbo in the future. This one has a tiny bit of shaft play. Pisses me off that there is no rebuild kit for it because I would prefer for it to run like new.
Smaay
Jan 17, 2011 - 10:48 AM
there are shops that can rebuild your turbo, but for the cost, it might be cheaper to do a replacement or CT27. call ATS and see what they can do with the CT20b. you might get lucky. i do believe that turbonetics can also rebuild the turbo and actually upgrade it at the same time.
bsamps4
Jan 17, 2011 - 10:55 AM
ats diesel?
bsamps4
Jan 17, 2011 - 7:54 PM
Small update....
Half the wiring harness has been removed, and the ecu has been unmounted. Dash is nearly ready to come out. carpet has been removed.
The list for tonight:
Disconnect power steering
Disconnect a/c
Disconnect throttle cable
Remove dash
Remove downpipe
Remove turbo
Remove turbo manifold
Btw...if you see anything I'm not using, then it's for sale. Make me an offer.
presure2
Jan 17, 2011 - 7:58 PM
why are you pulling the dash?
bsamps4
Jan 17, 2011 - 8:11 PM
Once ive removed all the parts I need I'll cut the frame up for disposal. Didnt know if anyone would be interested in the dash or the other parts im not using.
bsamps4
Jan 18, 2011 - 12:12 PM
Alright
Small Update
I didn't get as much done as I had hoped to last night. I'll post pics later.
I was only able to drain the transmission, remove transmission cooler lines, detach brake booster and several other vacuum lines, pull the ecu, pull harness through firewall, and attempt to remove the passenger side axle.
Any advice on how to remove these damn axles?? They are really in there, or i'm going about this the complete wrong way. Also having trouble removing the downpipe. I can't get to the last bolt holding the heat shield to the downpipe, and after messing around trying to remove the alternator so I could get to it; I decided to call it a night.
Aside from that I should be on schedule to remove the engine from the frame today
ST205WRC
Jan 18, 2011 - 1:52 PM
when you say passenger side are you refering to the left side or the right side? when i pulled my right side axel (driver side cuz im in japan) it came right out with a little bit of leverage and a good pry spot. it gets agravating that Super Strut suspension is very different to mess with.
bsamps4
Jan 18, 2011 - 2:28 PM
Yes. Japanese passenger side
bsamps4
Jan 18, 2011 - 4:10 PM
I'll keep working on it. There aren't any retaining clips on the axles are there? Im not worried about the side with the mid shaft because that should come loose as soon as i unbolt it. but the axle on the japanese passenger side is really in there. There are two grooves on either side of the axle that i've been sticking my pry bar in to break it loose because it is too tight for me to get my pry bar between the transmission and the back of the axle. when i put my pry bar between the tranny and back of axle it looks like its just damaging the back of the axle.
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