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well I can announce that my v6 gt4 turbo project is back on..... taking delivery of my gt4 shell in 3 days

well back after a long hiatis, since buying my gt86, FR-S for the yanks, the v6 celica has just sat there, nothing done and it has gone to a bad place.......
no trouble or problems just neglected........

so time to strip it down, completely, and re start on the gt4 v6 turbo build,

New GT4 shell is being delivered on Thursday (3 days time), and it will be a track car build, so no need to comply with street laws and regulations, only need to comply with class regulations for time attack.......

he he..... googled and i got this thread........

i am currently in the process of doing a st185 3vz-fe turbo awd conversion as i write this,
atm i am still modifying the block......

besides the block mods it is quite a straight forward swap, but adding the turbo adds to what needs to be done,
i am also beefing up the engine, even though it isnt a necassity i want the piece of mind,
also upgrading areas of need to enable the addition of the turbo......

how many turbo awd v6, i know of one in the states, ..

i am sure there would be others out there, but only can find the one....

been so long since i have updated this thread, and let me remember everything and get up to date.............


ok so for engineer all i needed to do was to lower the engine approx 8mm, due to the timing cover contacting the brake line off the brake slave cylinder, so had some 8mm thick washers machined to be placed between the body and xmembers to lower enough to clear........

thats all that needed to be done to get engineered and registered,

custom powersteering lines for blueslip,

i had an issue with drivers side (rhs) gt4 drive shaft popping out at the hub join, so had to use a camry axle with gt4 joints to give me a little extra length.....

so has been registered since june last year and had other issues, unrelated to the conversion but problems none the less.......

spun a big end bearing and needed a new crank, so had bottom end rebuilt with honed bores and new rings, new water pump, oil pump, complete gasket kit.... and re-install........

straight after rebuild i had a code thrown in ecu and it would stall and not start, and after a few weeks of searching and more trips back to mech who did re-build, it turned out to be a bad connection at plug of distributor.. so easy fix but took a while to find it.....as it was a very intermitant prob.......

after this a few weeks of driving it around and had planned to take it away with me on holidays, but on x-mas day i lost all electric power, and literally wouldnt start.......so parked it up and went on holidays on wife's 6th gen.......

once back i started trouble shooting the issue, after swapping ignition switch, starter relay, starter motor, and fuses, i found i had +(positive) power coming out of the engine at the point where the earth lead melted on me when it shut down..... so further investigation found that the wiring harness was rubbing on the starter motor and had rubbed through insulation to the alternator wiring and shorted out on the starter motor sending + power through engine, hense the shut down and loss of all starting circuit.....
after replacing the melted earth lead, and starter motor, as well as fuses and relay's it still wasnt starting, so off to auto electricians to fix..........

few bad earths and a poor connection in harness, problem solved and i can now drive it again,

so has been a very eventfull 6 months, and most of it has been in the mech, getting service or fix......

hopefully its the end of it, ( never say never)

next project has started...........

GT4 st185 3vz-fe turbo AWD conversion................

Grant

as for the 2grfe engine research has lead me to believe it is possible with the same grinding of the block and transfer case to fit tranny...... unknown how much material will be left after grinding, but the tranny will bolt up........all toyota v6 engines, eg....3vzfe,2vzfe,5vzfe, 1mzfe, and the 2grfe all share the same bellhousing pattern.......from what my research has lead me to understand, as a 2grfe had been put into a rav4 in the uk

my gt4 AWD 3vzfe turbo conversion is in progress

my st184 3vzfe N/A conversion is complete and way better then stock 5sfe.....

the awd tt v6 conversion spoken about in previous posts is in america, mate of mine, he helped me out with my 184 build.....

he has had single and twin setups on his in fwd format, and he has now converted a 184 to AWD(due to the lack of gt4's in the states)

his new build is a massive fully fledged completely forged, custom everything build.......vids on youtube...C.M.S.

that reminds me i havent check my build thread on here for ages

thanks guys

congrats mate, i still remember when i first fired up my 5th gen with my 3vzfe conversion..........great times.........

hi guys and gals,

i am in need of a st204 radiator, i noticed today that my wife's rad is cracking in the top tank just below the rad cap........

can anyone help out, or at least let me know how much im up for, if i get brand new replacement.........

thanks guys much appreciated

grant

radiator........... if you got one,

in need of one...pm me......with price and condition plz, thanks

so extremely close to rego,

nothing left to do, for rego anyway.......

bonnet finished and all painted, awaiting a date from the engineer, and the uvp from the rta

seen some in the uk, so will be looking for something over there..............

update on some new pics celica is finally ready to have engineer look at it, and its at the point where is as close to rego ready as i can get it............

so this is how it looks as of today.....

new vid after.....E53 camry 5sp conversion

gearbox swap is in progress.....just waiting for new exedy heavy duty clutch to arrive..
also waiting for gt4 cv to arrive.....

heres some teaser pics to show some progress......
ok the old 184 cables....bottom of pic..... and the 185 cables now needed to fit the e53 camry gearbox

replaced rear crank oil seal while gearbox was off.....

ok how the celica sits atm

and the difference between 184 and 185 front to rear crossmember........top of pic is 185.. bottom 184

ok well pic is of the versions of thermostat housing that evolved through the build lol.....

in the middle is the stock 3vzfe camry pipe and housing.......
compare that with the one above it (top of pic), and you can see that cutting the pipe short deleted the mounting bracket and as the pipe only slides into housing then is bolted into place.. so removing it caused problems, so solution was to get alloy pipe welded to the housing to make a solid housing and pipe setup and that is the one on the bottom........

have installed it now, and once other little bits are done i can do a pressure test and hope all is sealed and sound........



till next time......grant

ok so got bored today so thought id do something with the celica while my kids were playing and the wife was studying........

So i started on the airpod filter... and boxing it off to make it legal....... photos are of first process.........

makeing cardboard walls then fibreglass a base.......... still lots to go but you will get the idea........


just incase you didnt read the whole post...........photos are of first process......... gotta make the walls before i can make the lid dude.......

although i do have to add....... i could (if i wanted too) rubber line the top of the box to form a seal with the bonnet and then use vents to get air from outside the car.......this is also legal and dont need a lid as the bonnet forms the lid......FYI...... this is not the way i am going........

ok so got bored today so thought id do something with the celica while my kids were playing and the wife was studying........

So i started on the airpod filter... and boxing it off to make it legal....... photos are of first process.........

makeing cardboard walls then fibreglass a base.......... still lots to go but you will get the idea........







and just an updated pic of the celica as it was when i got it off the delivery truck...lol.....just cause i can.....lol



hey guys..... progress again... slowly but getting there.......


ok... thermostat housing.... this is a part of the conversion that wasnt forseable.......anywho.lol.....

due to the 56 mm radiator, and the pipe that slots into the thermostat housing, the clearance was not enough to allow a hose to be connected, so the pipe had to be cut shorter........ however doing this deleted the mounting bracket from the pipe to the alternator bracket, and as the pipe only slid into the thermostat housing, thus when pressure built up the pipe blew out so the only way to fix this was to weld a pipe to the housing and whalla......the end result...............

all good....

thanks

taken from wikipedia........

1994+ have 200 hp (149 kW) at 5800 rpm and 204 ft·lbf (277 N·m) at 4600 rpm. There is no mechanical difference in the engine. In an embarrassing move, Toyota inadvertently created an engine competing with the more performance oriented 7M-GE (200 hp) and 2JZ-GE (225 hp) installed in sportier, more luxurious cars of the time. Because of this; the stock ignition timing and fueling was noticibly detuned. The power spread of the 3VZ-FE is wide, having 100% torque between 2500–4600 rpm, with power trailing off by 6000 rpm. Stock redline is 6600 rpm, and the ECU's fuel/ignition cut is 7200 rpm.

Though harder to find in good used condition in North America (unless imported), the 3VZ-FE is a fairly common V6 in most parts of the world, after having a good lifespan in popular models. They are cheap, simple, have few problems, and have become a semi-popular subject for engine swaps (particularly into the mid-engine MR2).

The 3VZ-FE has a larger forged steel crankshaft and large cast rods. They can handle double the stock power output, although forged pistons & rods are recommended. A few nitrous and turbocharged examples match or exceed 450hp (336kW) on both the stock engine and engine management with a piggyback chip controlling fuel & ignition.


Not bad....ey....new ecu is next i guess...lmao

pffftttt ....i was wrong..... i got the e53 V6 trans...... duh...lol

anyhow... swap isnt that far away now just need to source one more part and is 185 gt4 gear shifter cables.....anybody got any...

so items on hand...

1xgt4 top passenger side tranny mount
1xgt4 rear tranny mount
1xgt4 front-back crossmember
1xgt4 shifter cable bracket

will be using camry inner shafts and gt4 outer shafts.... i have been informed that the gt4 shafts will go into my 184 hubs... so no need to change anything there....TF

will most definately post up pics while conversion is going ahead... so i can keep you all updated.....

V6 FTW....lol

ok.....

well starting gearbox conversion this week.........

stock box didnt last as long as id hoped..lol.... but nevermind..

chang will be for the better as i wont have to baby it around anymore....
so i can finally open it up and get it dyno'd to dee exactly how much HP i got and to see if stock 2.2ltr fuel pump is up to the task......

keep tuned.... more updates to come.....

i put a kyb insert into my 5th gen.....

if the liquid u are talking abount is the shock fluid..... then just tip it into a container..... clean and slip insert in tighten up top and put spring back on.......

just had to buy some bits and peices to help out in the workshop.../carport.....lol

axle stands and a garage creeper..........

now that i got the stands i can start pulling the stock gearbox out.....
hopefully have some more updates later in the week....
need to get my hands on some mounts.. to completely bolt up.... but should be able to get clutch and other stuff done.
oh and rear main oil seal while im at it.....