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Nov 10, 2009 - 1:35 PM Forum: Engine/Transmission/Maintenance · Post Preview: #811611 · Replies: 117 · Views: 11,448,244
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QUOTE (delusionz @ Nov 10, 2009 - 5:43 AM) *
Afaik spinning the wheels is not an accurate test for LSD.


I agree with you.
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ST205 is said to have torsen rear and central viscous, nothing up front.


As did the ST185RC. All ST185 models had center Viscous Coupling and optional equipment Torsen Rear.

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I know there's nothing upfront because I'm told I need gearbox fluid WITHOUT friction modifier for lsd.


Correct. smile.gif There was a LSD option for up front, but it was mega expensive and aftermarket only.

Nov 9, 2009 - 10:19 PM Forum: Engine/Transmission/Maintenance · Post Preview: #811448 · Replies: 117 · Views: 11,448,244
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more : http://www.mr2.com/forums/turbo-3s-gte/Toy...tification.html

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Looking for the bar through the axle hole will verify if it's an LSD tranny or not. Bar = LSD. No bar = No LSD




more: http://www.toymods.net//forums/showthread.php?t=8949

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The standard factory LSD has a cros bar through the centre of it. If you pull the stubs of the axles out of the box you'll either see a nice round hole straight through or a bar going across the hole.

The standard LSD's are viscous couplings so they don't lock if you just turn one axle by hand.


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The crossbar doesn't indicate an LSD is present, atleast in an S series box. If you go down to your local toyota wrecker and have a look around you'll see that all of the S boxes have that cross bar no matter what car they're from. Not sure if the same applies to the E series boxes.




That last is possibly the most important. ^^

Nov 9, 2009 - 10:13 PM Forum: Engine/Transmission/Maintenance · Post Preview: #811445 · Replies: 117 · Views: 11,448,244
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Seems like SW20 MR2 had an exception to this rule.

Other 'interesting' quotes from today's emails / research:

"The SW20 LSDs have a bar also. We checked this one and it spins like a LSD." (in reference to BEAMS for sale)

"Physically check as in putting the axle and turning one axle and the other side turn. The axle hole has a bar/slab metal, if there is non, its either a viscous lsd or aftermarket. The swap is from a SS-III"


^^ So.. yeah, dunno.. lol.. but hopefully will know before purchase, eh?

Nov 9, 2009 - 9:55 PM Forum: Engine/Transmission/Maintenance · Post Preview: #811427 · Replies: 117 · Views: 11,448,244
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do a quick search- most people check for LSD by rotating axles/wheels or by visual check through the hole.

No bar? LSD
Bar? no LSD

This was pretty much what I believed to be the case 100%. but, now maybe the VC LSD are bar???!




Nov 9, 2009 - 9:51 PM Forum: Engine/Transmission/Maintenance · Post Preview: #811421 · Replies: 117 · Views: 11,448,244
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So your BEAMS has no bar in the S54? But, you believe it has LSD.. wow.. perhaps you are lucky and have gotten a TRD (Cusco) Clutch Type (mech./ salisbury) LSD. BONUS! smile.gif


I know for a fact, that clutch type LSD don't have a bar.. I just picked on up for the ZZT-231. The open diff on the C64 (Celica GT-S trans) has a bar.


This must have something to do with the type of LSD.



Let's keep this going!

Nov 9, 2009 - 9:18 PM Forum: Engine/Transmission/Maintenance · Post Preview: #811406 · Replies: 117 · Views: 11,448,244
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QUOTE (delusionz @ Nov 9, 2009 - 8:44 PM) *
And Just to throw you off even more, the GT-Four does NOT have a front LSD - It has a viscous central coupling and a TORSEN rear diff.

JDM GT-Four E154F -08B




OT: (but possibly interesting)

While the GT-Four did not have a factory front LSD option, TRD units were available and were quite expensive due to the size of the housing. My friend purchased the last two in existence a few years back for a pro Rally team. Years ago they were $3000+.. the last few sold for quite a pretty penny.

(I own several Celica including GT-Four , ST185 x 2 and ST185 RC) wink.gif

BTW, rear Torsen was NOT std equipment on all GT-Four. ST185RC - > ST205 did however. Earlier models were optional. Early ST165 didn't even have Viscous centers..




Great info in this thread - keep it coming! smile.gif

Nov 9, 2009 - 6:55 PM Forum: Engine/Transmission/Maintenance · Post Preview: #811332 · Replies: 117 · Views: 11,448,244
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Thanks for the quick replies.

From what I understood.. the bar was a clear indication of an open diff. However, I now have two importers telling me that isn't the case with this trans/diff / lsd type.

I do know that all SS-III w/ BEAMS are supposed to be LSD.


Thoughts?

Nov 9, 2009 - 3:40 PM Forum: Engine/Transmission/Maintenance · Post Preview: #811258 · Replies: 117 · Views: 11,448,244
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apologies for bumping an older thread-

I have recently come across a BEAMS & S54 for sale and it has a chassis tag. Both ZF (SSIII) and 06D appear on the tag. However, under visual inspection through the axle hole in the trans, there is a bar. This is usual indicative of an open diff.

Thoughts?



Nov 9, 2009 - 2:32 PM Forum: Engine/Transmission/Maintenance · Post Preview: #811232 · Replies: 204 · Views: 93,111
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What belt did you use?

Nov 9, 2009 - 11:46 AM Forum: Engine/Transmission/Maintenance · Post Preview: #811201 · Replies: 204 · Views: 93,111
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QUOTE (turnip @ Nov 9, 2009 - 11:39 AM) *
QUOTE (illtuned @ Nov 9, 2009 - 10:19 AM) *
OT: 2ZZ (duzzy) are great motors. I was able to extract 40 additional whp and incredible mid range from Power FC tuning , PPE header, etc. Best of all was the engine was left unopened. (2001 ZZT-231 GT-S)

I believe you will be satisfied with the BEAMS in the car. smile.gif

Nice Lotus! smile.gif Great in black, eh?


Yeh the 2zz is freaking awesome but being that they are a little pricey I will stick with the BEAMs for now. Hopefully this Celica body will hold up.


No worries; I'm sure you'll love the BEAMS setup in the GT.

Do most of the S54 transmissions have LSD? Or is it just hit and miss? Out of three motors I found locally, only 1 had confirmed LSD. The others "weren't sure". And there was no door tag to inspect.

I guess I could always just physically look. But, for motors out of state, that's a bit difficult.

Nov 9, 2009 - 10:19 AM Forum: Engine/Transmission/Maintenance · Post Preview: #811186 · Replies: 204 · Views: 93,111
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OT: 2ZZ (duzzy) are great motors. I was able to extract 40 additional whp and incredible mid range from Power FC tuning , PPE header, etc. Best of all was the engine was left unopened. (2001 ZZT-231 GT-S)

I believe you will be satisfied with the BEAMS in the car. smile.gif

Nice Lotus! smile.gif Great in black, eh?

Nov 8, 2009 - 12:54 PM Forum: Engine/Transmission/Maintenance · Post Preview: #810936 · Replies: 204 · Views: 93,111
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Turnip, where do you race?

good thread.


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