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Where in NH are you? Zip?

When was the timing belt done last?

Could you PM me a phone number? I already took $ out and have cash on hand. I hope you're not *too* far.

I'm in NY.

Thanks!

Not only does the Mr2 outhandle anything FR, but it also will out-power it easily..

Don't forget, with a stock turbo, lots of mods will get you far (HP-wise)...DP, raised boost, IC's etc etc.

An avg. Mr2-t costs $7-8k. A Celica GT 5-speed is like $5-6k. So they aren't that far apart yet one is much more fun. I don't see how $2k can kill your finances, take out a loan and get the Mr2-T!

What's your asking price? I wouldn't know where to start with an offer...somewhere between $3-500 give or take? Where in Jersey you located? I am an hour and change from the Garden State mall, perhaps we could meet up (First...I need to buy a Celica lol). Yea I am on the market for a celica and would definitely look into any clean/alloy/spoked 16-17" rims. Got closer pics? (Most you have are small).

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hey man, im selling my 94 GT 5 speed, but it will cost you more then 4 grand. but i have alot done to it, check my sig. my email is sboarder9202@cox.net, by the way im from RI.

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How about if you take out the seats, rims, and exhaust? Restore those three to stock (shouldn't take long/be hard) and justify a $3-4k price?

Mileage? Pics?

Actually, Most car companies don't mind keeping Higher HP sports cars at higher prices TO KEEP THEM FROM teens and new drivers who'll kill themselves with that power.

Besides, it keeps the prestige and class of the car that much higher.

What killed the Supra and Rx7 93+ Sports car craze wasn't exactly the price, but moreover the SUV popularity that kicked in...many articles have been written about how SUV's killed the Sports cars. Search google and you probably can find some.

Go test drive the new WRX Sti...I think they look 10X better and trust Subaru 200X more than MitsuBITCHY.

Anyways, thats awesome, but seriously, test drive the WRX and then give us your own synopsis on which is better since they obviously are competitors in the Turbo'd AWD war.

I wish Toyota came back into that war with a GT-4 return of the Celica, but the new model is super-ugly anyways...

Do you know anything about English? "English Mother****er, do you speak it!"? LOL

Seriously, its hard to read your gibberish.

But, alas, again you are talking to me about the "horror" stories that haunt the Rx7 "Realm of Scariness."

Yes, I do know a lot more than you think and judging by what you've said you are in no position to tell me I don't know Jack about Rx7's.

I wasn't coming out as a "know it all ass." In fact, someone else simply stated mis-information about Rx7's and I was correcting him based on my first-hand information and research of over a year now....so you can calm it.

LOL simply your comment about knowing how they handle and combining that with Drifting (which is not great handling, just something fun to do with well balanced RWD cars) further downplays any validity you have in this arguement. Read: Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

And FYI, I was talkin about Rx7's, which exist here and in Japan, so all of them...duh.

1.3 is the displacement of the 13B engine (Wow, 13 and 1.3 what a concept!) which is in the 3rd Gen Rx7.

20b's come from a different mazda, and 4rotor's are in the 787B supermachine! WOot!

Okay, and I am simply asying people hate "ricers" (Rice Burners is so hick, its not even used that often anymore) is their infatuation with non-sports cars, and making them into something they're not. Thats why they get the GT wings used from real GT cars, the big exhausts meant for cars with BIG backpressure, and the ground effects to keep the light and fast supercars grounded....

Anyways, even all your arguements against "****ty american cars" is VERY ignorant. Sure, the mustang is cheap, and for a reason, but it doesn't mean all american cars can never see 200k. Besides, every car has wear and tear items, that need replacing, so some american cars need 1/2 things more...who cares? "With great power comes great responsibility". If you are going to ditch RWD and Turbo power for the sake of having to never check a vacuum hose and boost (which, to me, is fun....not *taxing* on my precious time) to drive a "Reliable" Fast car then so be it,..but you forfeit real power and speed for that "I don't have to change the oil at 3000 miles" comfort...which is just sillyness IMO.

Anyways, there is a lot of fun in big block displacement. SO what if it doesn't have a turbo or V-tec for higher RPMs....ever womp on a 7.8litre V8? The response at low RPM is wicked. I love big displacement, and that combined with a turbo for higher-RPM power is the best combo (Hmmm like some exotics boast).

But alas, we don't alll have the time, money, and availability to "have it all"...so its cool that there are Supra's, Celica's, Rx7's...etc for us to play with

Just stop making generalizations to be a fact.

Thanks for the links, although I think they are too far.

I've been searching within a 100 mile radius (Yea cause I don't want to fly to get the car! I would for the Rx7 but not a dd).

I've been checking cars.com/autotrader.com/thepartstrader.com as well as the local paper and this forum....not much else I could do...but let me know what comes up in the Tri-State area! Thanks!

I've never seen your car but thanks for the info. That website doesn't have any Celicas (Or Rx7's for that matter) but lmk if you know of any that pop up, or any MKI MR2 Buyers Thanks.

Chill.

Are you serious? Do you know ANYTHING about cars?

The z06 is rated at 405hp.

While the Rx7 is "Only" 275hp stock (In Japan), it is still a Japanese supercar...why? Well there's more to a car than what's written on paper about it...

To get its ***1.3*** litres of displacement to 350rwhp which would definitely outhandle and give the z06 a run for its money requires injectors, downpipe, and perhaps an ecu (FMIC?) or even a street port. Doesn't take a lot to make a stock turbo'd Rx7 to 300rwhp or so...which is a lot given its relative LIGHT-weight. And at the same time, it outhandles most other cars, what with the engine being pushed back to provide the best 50/50 MR-ish handling and all..

I think you shouldn't comment on that which you don't know.

As for what else you said, its all relevant (as others had said) but doesn't apply to the subject as to why some cars are rice and others aren't. It's simply because you make something out to what it isn't, and act/think/consider it a performance beast, when its not (ricer vehicles).

Yes, with Money you can buy anything, and make any car fast (Given, you rip the eco-cars apart and basically not make it anything like how it comes stock making it more of a hybrid/mutation than to actually hold that vehicle name/title)....but we already knew that....

....okay. But what you are "happy" and "Reassured" driving doesn't change whether its a Sports car of true performance or not. If you drive a civic, its a civic. And if you are happy cause it can go to 200k and not break down, cool for you.

As for me, I'd rather have the gas pedal as my entrance to a rollercoaster ride on the way to work and back, and perhaps have a reason to look under the hood and get together with friends and mess around once in a while...including upgrading the cars power.

Reliable? So is a sports car if you know what you're doing (And the Supra, no matter what you do it is).

Look Good? well that's opinionated. But even if you tried to make that factual, Economy cars were designed with everyday driver in mind, nothing outstanding, radical, or much different at all. When it comes to sports cars, it's the complete opposite. "Lets make it unique, beautiful, give it some heritage". I don't know, to me, and IN MY OPINION, it's apples to oranges. A civic will never send chills down my spine like an Rx7 or z06.

Good power? Power requires turbo or displacement, which all Eco4cyllanders lack. What helps when you have little power is to be very LIGHT, which they are, which makes them feel fast, but they aren't fast.

With a good engine swap....yes, anything is. But its not how the car came, and in the end that rebuild + cost of surrounding mods/exterior + car could mean a real sports car that came with that power from the factory, and is RWD, beautiful, and tons more fun.

So no, I am not dissing eco cars, but I just recognize the place they are meant to be in: Practical everyday cars. "You can't polish a turd"

wow okay, I totally saw it a different way. My bad, and even my response itself did read pretty witty, but I was just making a point. The McDonalds thing was a general statement, "If someone can't afford it, they should find a better job" <--shoulda worded it like that. The You was impersonal (Or however its called by the English rules).

And yea, I agree wholeheartedly. A car is never an investment (unless its a supra lol).

Thanks for the replies.

Yea I am in Newburgh NY, So I am not far from Poughkeepsie or any of the local states (1/2 hour from PA/NJ/CT/MA).

Did you talk to the owner? Have a price or number or street? (LOL I don't know where to begin with that car...)

And FireinDC, you think so? Some dealers want like $4.5k for 160k 5-speed GT's which is kinda crazy, I am trying to spend under $4k, and want a GT so I expect high miles but that's kind of high.

And I love G2's, I haven't driven a 6th Gen, but any other FWD car I've driven is pale in comparison to the G2 as far as handling and dynamics.

I never said he did. I was merely pointing out that the "insane" price of $3k (which is a lot, to paint a $4-6k car for) doesn't hinder anybody's finances on a house. And if it does, they probably should be in an apt/townhouse.

I think a better example of that, is someone who owns a BMW but rents....thats where its clearly a choice of where you want to spend your money.

Didn't mean to rub off harsh, merely proving a point. And I never said HE works at McD's It was a general "If you" meaning anyone.

Hey,

So I found this forum looking for 6th Gens. I'd really like the GT, but it seems to be out of my range in price. I'm saving towards rebuilding an FD, so I can only spend so much. My price range is somewhere around $4k (Hopefully lower :*(
I know that isn't much when it comes to 6th gen's so thats why may aim is 150k miles, but definitely 5-speed. I wish the ST's werent 110hp, I'd love the 140hp GT models, and have seen high mileage stock GT's at $3500-4000 in the past.

If you have mods, and can take em off to make a deal, definitely let me know.
@ The same time, I am selling my MKI Mr2 towards the Celica...

www.geocities.com/tigerdbr/mkimr2.html <---Pics. More info if interested in or want to trade (Plus I'll give cash).

My Email: TigerDBR@excite.com
Or simply reply here
thanks,
-Dan-

P.S. If all else fails, I'll fall back on buying a G2 Integra, know of any? Contact me as well...

Ahhh the typical ignorant answer.

I'm about to buy an FD (Rx7 for those that don't know)

And my setup should bring in 320-350rwhp on stock twins.
Problem with the rotary is: Gasp, you have to KNOW YOUR CAR!

I've seen plenty run off of stock twins for upwards of 100k, and who cares if it doesn't go 200k? Who would want to drive around a 200k performance motor? I wouldn't!

As for price, GT2GT4, I am buying $7k blown, and the rebuild is at MOST $7k (thats if I don't do the labor, which I will). So for under $14k I'll have a street ported FD SUPERCAR.

Please, if you are going to say anything about Rx7's, please research first. The first problem with them are "generalizations". They are one of the best cars ever made IMO. And there's no reason to drop the Rotary engine for a V-8.

As for the original question:

I don't know if you know, but the Prelude doesn't/can't/will not/never will compare to any of the RWD Turbo monsters you are listing. That is like Fire and Ice. Apples to oranges. But being you want either or, I'd say go with Prelude. RWD Turbo cars are much more fun, much more responsive to mods, but it also means you have to know a BIT of what you are doing (not nearly like the rotary to a degree), and they are the beginning of true road performance. Haven't you ever felt the horrible understeer of a FWD car?

But, in all honesty, if you want to step foot into a realm of handling, speed, rarity, and "Different"....Get the Mr2...the best candidate for under $14k. Reliable, beautiful, rare, awesome Mr2 club ( I was in it for a year now with my MKII Turbo and MKI NA

Good luck.

If you plan on any neon lights or a veilside kit (or anything loud), I'd put next on that same list to drive your car off a cliff.....but that's just me.


My "masterplan" is to have a fun DD, the Celica, for winter months and rainy days. A nice system for the rocky rolly music, nice alloy rims (nothing huge) with winter tires, the modest front lip and euro sideskirts, the supra wing (body looks insanely close to a supra) and thats about it.

Then between March-February out comes the 93 Rx7 street port to tear up Limerock, E-Town, etc etc.

How is spending $2-3k (I got quoted from a private shop) on a paintjob define me as placing more value in a car than a house? I hope you know houses cost a BIT more than $2-3k and if even $5k is going to discourage you from buying a house, then, perhaps you should get a better job than at McDonalds....

...then again, perhaps you were exaggerating, in which case I really hope you are...

Well perhaps you are missing out on the fact that they have tons of torque between 0-5k? And that performance usually starts with RWD? And that, to this day, Displacement dominates over Vtec (vtec will never pwn anything).

You do know Vtec is for economy engines (Mostly) in that the engine timing is finally brought up to "normal" and UN-Economical speeds when Vtec hits...IE every other normal car runs "vtec" all the time (I read a long faq on that).

I am here cause I love 6th Gen celica's as a practical DD, but please don't make out any of these FWD 4 cyllander cars into something their not. By the time you swap out all the "economy" parts (suspension, port and reinforcement, add forced induction, etc etc) you finally have DECENT speed but are still FWD (And there is no defense for FWD, it simply SUCKS when it comes to performance).

Alas, the GT4 is cool, AWD + Turbo helps a lot in the 4cylli equation.

I think most 4-cylander owners assume their cars are fast when the "speed" you are feeling is generally because the car is light and weak. Given, I've driven a 4-500hp 7.8 litre V8 Trans Am, My own Mr2 Turbo (MR fun, with 250 hp to boot!), and gotten rides in an Rx7.....I've come to appreciate REAL sports cars and the true soul,finesse, and spirit that is alltogether inspirational.

Again, don't get me wrong, you can build up a cheap 4 cyllander honda/toyota...but it's still FWD...and still looks the way it does...and is nowhere near (in my book) as fun/cool/inspirational as a purebred sports car like the FD that will be in my garage this spring