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thank you very much box, exactly what i was looking for. part numbers will make sure i cant mess this up. dont exactly have my old one for reference

thanks Kurt you're probably right. but its Definitely a project now. not that she wasn't before. just got done stripping the entire interior out yesterday including carpets and dynamat. ive got a lot to rebuild. Figured I'd bring you guys along, n ask some 3sge related questions. An take acouple pics of the old girl while I restore her.

Also, I just pulled my kyb shocks and eiboch springs out of the gt-s, to slap it under my 95 gt. kind of excited about that. can't wait to see what this thing feels like with some actual suspension underneath it.

sry for the confusion the 3s is in my 87 gt-s and the v6 will be going into my 6gen gt.

well guys its been awhile, but i got my 87 gt-s back. shes pretty beat up and there was a dead cat in the passenger floorboards. so.. my plan is to strip her and roach it out. im thinkin street legal track car. i know its not a 6th gen, but i figured id bring you guys some questions, sense i know how much you guys love the 3s-ge. as i do.

so number 1 question. the tweekers that stole my car took my entire custom intake, including my maf sensor. so does anyone know if there is a difference between the 3sge and 3sfe maf sensors. cuz all i can find online and on ebay are the 3sfe maf. they look the same, but i read on some bs forum that the fe wont work for my ge. but i thought i ask the real know it alls here for the real word.. thanks guys, really exited to get my baby running like a champ again.


ps. haven't forgot about my 1mz project, just collecting parts n getting my ducks in a row before i dive into suck a big endeavor.
and if i get my gts running i can start asap.

thank you smaay.. that was stock auto trans.

and yeah after talking with my pops. i found a place that i should be able to get a customized flex plate for the 1mz.
also looking into whether or not i can find a torque converter to match the 1mz plate. thanks man

to mr220v thank you very much, but i need to know about my stock a140e auto trans. will the pre 97 ecu run my auto just fine like it was the a541e(stock auto for camry/avalon), which has almost the exact same gear ratios?

yuh know after switching back an forth between pics.
an i definitely agree on the inner bolt pattern being a lil smaller.
and after even further inspection looks like the outer bolts are alittle inset in the 5s plate.

so do you guys think that ill be able to mod it safely.
im thinking drill out the center bore and slot boltholes to the same as the 1mz, an use the 1mz spacers to ad strength to what i modded.
that or talk to my local fab shop.
or am i being silly and this is alot bigger problem than i think?

so ive been doing as much research as the internet will allow me and i found a couple pics if both the 5s and 1mz flex plates.

first the 5s



and the 1mz


sure look the same to me, but trans are kind of foreign territory for me.
only difference i see is acouple welds on the outer ring. probably added strength for v6.
so i thought id run this by you guys.. opinions?

no f-ing way kurt thats crazy. hardly know what to say... good tastes

to smaay my bubbles not burst the blue/purple/red pattern doesnt match the rest of the interior. those colors came on the jap and aus celis all the way into the 2000s

and to mr220v is there any specific reason it has to be manual opt. ecu.. im going with an auto. please forgive me for my ignorance, i do want her legal. dont know what the manual opt. would be for. i trust your word, just confused. also you think the 1mz ecu will run my stock trans no problem?

man i cant stop thanking thank you guys, your knowledge has been invaluable, if what you said is correct mr22v i could have done somthing real stupid getting an 03.

so heres the gt-s.... god i miss you baby

and the new project

she came with jdm seats

alright sounds like i need to drop for 1mz very soon. got a place we call recycle road out here. its got pick an pulls for every brand. an i know the guy that owns the toyauto mart pretty well after all the parts i used to get for my gt-s. so im hopeing i ll be able to get a pretty good deal on the block and dressings.

but i gotta throw a new water pump in this 5s before i get to do anything fun,
danmn thing went out like the day after i bought it, pissing coolant all over herself, got all the parts and it starts raining.

but i guess thats what you get when you get a 95 celi for 1500.. otherwise nice car.

i feel pretty dumb but, i cant figure out how to get pics on here, asks for url. got pic donno how to post them... noob

well i guess the a541e is out of the question.
its a real trip cuz, the avalon 4 banger has the same exact motor/trans setup as my auto gt celi. 5sfe with a140e.
bummer. im a lil worried about the a140e holding up to that kind of torque too.
but i did find a place online that will upgrade the crap out of my a140e or sell me one thats already all raced out.
now that i think of it i should probably get ahold of them about this flex plate modification.

y not go five speed? good question.
well i had lsd and about 2000 bucks in shift kit and valve train upgrades on my gt-s... she was just so smooth, i could trick it to race in the hills and in town. call me lazy but she always knew what gear to choose, never lost a race... well i dont count the saleen mustang i was silly enough to rev my engine at. not a good idea..
to conclude i love the luxury of having my vehicle take me from for where i am to where i need to be.
my kl250 and klx 400 are what i like rippin though gears on.
cali's so strict. gotta keep most of the real fun off road, cops around here LOVE tuners.(if you catch my drift)

cant thank you guys enough for the help. maybe after i get this done ill have to try to hit up one of these meets i keep hearing about.

Hay guys thanks again, Sry I didn't get back sooner. Found out I have a kidney infection.

But it looks like ill be going with a 97+ 1mz and ecu, pre 97 lower intake.
And the only other thought is the trans.
Now when you said the avalons auto didn't share a single mount does that mean I shouldn't attempt. Like are they in a completely different location?

Yeah intake and headers/exhaust are generaly the quickest bolt on HP upgrades. My pops is a certified mech.
On my gts I had my stock headers port an polish highflow cat and custom cat back, and Custom intake.
List of other parts. I miss my 3sge, had her just about maxed out. Na that is. but now I want MORE TORQUE.

Thank you guys a lot. With what I've got in front of me, You guys make this swap look easy.

holy crap thank you kurt, huge help!.

i really like the thought of modding the flex plates, gunna have to look into which would be easier/more reliable.

the evap sys. doesnt seem too be too scarey at all, just as long as the ecu likes it. ie: check engine light.

and just to be clear if i used a pre 97 ecu with that lower intake hybrid, i could skip the fpr and evap.
or would that be defeating the purpose of getting the newer motor? guess im asking does the 97+ ecu=the increased hp, or the upper intake and other components?

thank you very much for the help. this is looking more and more possible every day. an yes i absolutely plan on getting ahold or mr220v for my harness, you think he'd be up for answering some ?s about the compatibility of my stock auto trans and the ecu?

smaay thanks for the quick reply. you are one of the mad men ive been looking to talk to, that being said.

this kinda blows. i really thought the 1mz would bolt right up. swap guide shows the a140e as an option, and the a541e has exactly the same gear ratio with a tiny bit longer fourth gear.

so im curious would the mounts for the camry auto trans be the same as the ones for your manual. or is it a totally different trans/shape? idont think my pops welder is strong enough to be fabing mounts. if you can get those made up id be willing to pay alot for um. already about 100% sure im going to hit you up for one of your "swap kits".

when it comes to the motor itself, was really looking to get a newer one with low miles. everything says the pre 97s have less hp.. and we all know that more is what were looking for.

about your fpr, ive heard about this little trick, is there no way to hook up your vac ref? or just a bitch to do?

again thank you for your prompt response. looking at buying a block this month.

hay guys, just bought my first 6gen bout a week ago, after my 87 gt-s was stolen about 6 months ago.

so now i have a 95 gt auto. decided i want to swap for the 1mz. done a lot of research and put together a list, but im still not clear on a couple things. hoping some of the badasses on 6gc can help me out.

so to start

1mzfe engine
hopefully one from a 03+ solara or sienna
with the wiring harness, ecu, intake,
solara ps pump, stock auto exhaust headers.

i know i gotta get my harness wired up, custom passenger mount and y pipe
(smaays looks beautiful by the way. definitely going to hit you up soon, if your still doing that)

but i still have a couple ?? marks over my head. and that is

will there be any problems with my stock auto trans. haha auto trans. say what you want.
but im going lsd and upgrading to handle the power. main question is, will it shift fine?? wire up just fine?

the only other questions are about obdII, and the fpr hookup,
specifically what is needed to make my 95 celica obdII. the evap system and such.
i live in cali. so smog is a must. ive heard its harder than the pre 97s,
but im curious what it really takes. cuz i really want to stay away from the sluge doomed years.

hope this interested anybody, lookin to get some help from the gurus here at 6gc.com, thanks guys.