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well here is the deal....maybe in 1 or 2 months i may have the chance to change my 6g celi st hatchback 95 (auto)for a 2g (97) mitsubishi eclipse gst(manual), i was analizing the pros and cons of the car change considerating price and stuff (if i get the eclipse i wont be able to sell it for a while), im thinking about getting the eclispe but while i decide i thought that it might be a good idea to post it here so i can read your opinions why you would or wouldnt do it...
both cars are in excellent condition
any experiences? opinions? thoughts? are welcome

(here is a list of things i consider)
-the mitsu has almost double power considerating its a lil more heavier
-mitsu engine...you cant give it even 1 extra hp or engine blows, comes to the limit, very low mechanical upgrades, in the other hand the celi is fully customisable
-the always economy vs preformance and power vs durability of components
-externally the mitsu its a lot less externally modificable
-the celi has 1 minor hit wich i think it has no colateral effect on the car, the mitsu is hit free

I wouldnt say its a fast car, the 5s isnt a very strong motor ( as far as racing goes ) The 3s, 4g63, sr20det all strong imported 4 cylinder. The celica (unless its an all trac or gt4) is slow, but its a BEAUTY of a daily driver. The looks cannot be compared, ya the liftbacks are 2400lbs and convertables 2700 relativly light, but no power to back the weight up. Fwd also hinders the preformance a lot. Unless your talking a stroked 3s with a 5s crank and so on and so on, but still bottom line the car is slow without modifcation. Doesnt stop me from loving the hell out of my car.

But look at the other options within the same price range.
Eclipse Gs-t 2700lbs with a boost loving motor. (crank walk issue)
Mazda rx7 at 2800lbs (same reliablity issue)
ect.
ect.

The celica turns on everytime I want it to, I have absolutly no complaints. the 5s is a reliable motor, doesnt require as much attention as my 3s does in the least. In no way am I bad mouthing this car, you seem to LOVE your car but there is a difference between love and denial. These aren't ultimate driving machines with unlimited potential. In your previous posts it seems you like to street race and compare car vs. car, but the ability of the celica on the 7a and 5s is limited in the means of horsepower (volumetic efficency) its just lacking. But it wasnt designed to be a race car, thats why toyota has the all-trac and gt4...sex on wheels.

i already got someone lined up to shoot the paint for me. and for interior, idk, you might be on your own, it's really hard to find nice, clean peices around here. all that's missing though is the door panels. do you have any pictures of your celica you could send me? ooantirockeroo@hotmail.com

3rd gen 3S-GE's never came with VVT or VVT-i. About the eBay auction, if the seller is selling just the engine, it's not worth it. Unless you're comfortable with sourcing parts.

Yeah the silvertop swap in the Celica ST isn't bad at all, there's a few out there, I know because I did the wiring harnesses for them

Anyway, yes, you can use the stock 7A tranny. The blacktop is not really easier or harder to swap, but it's newer and more expensive... and more powerful.

-Doc

checking for ya tomorrow.

I on the other hand think this swap is common enough amougst the Corolla folk that you don't *need* to buy a clip... but it's nice to have one. The coil and ignitor can be sourced from different cars... along with all of the needed plugs for wiring. The only real parts you need, is the engine itself with neccesary attachments (dizzy, manifolds, etc)... and the ecu.

looks a bit like this one www.toyota-forum.de