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you want more torque ...change cams

You will not get more torque just changing exhaust header or catback ....

why ? is simply becuse stock EX cam is only 240 deg duration

and according stock cam spec IN/EX 119/113 CL (252/240 deg duration ) is not enough for good dynamic exhaust pulse

rev4 BEAMS red-top 6.4kg
3s-ge rev3 7.5kg ,
3s-gte rev3 7.7kg

TODA 4.5kg

FS: 3s-gte rev4 st215 caldina with M/T AWD

Item location Canada (Quebec)

2100USD + shipping (from CA Quebec))

Included wiring ECU etc....... as on picture

Strut Brace (Rear) 150 USD + shipping ,this is copy of stock gt4

item location: Poland

available 5 items (left from group buy Celica-Club Poland)

3s-gte caldina +M/T AWD +wiring +ecu etc as on picture




low mileage

item location : Canada ,Quebec

2100USD + shipping from CA Quebec

looks like very good idea

http://www.camshaftshop.com/home?page=shop...category_id=100

3-195-A Camshaft

640USD

about regrinds

- new-cam-profile must be prepared by professional engine engineer , designed and calculated for specific engine
(my friend who did it for me have 30 years experiences in preparing racing engines ,
he designed cams and head for soda FABIA S2000 , 2L NA ,results 295hp 260Nm )

- even some one will prepare cam-profile Im sure You will not get 272deg from 240 automatic stock cams
- find good machine shop for this task ... hmm try it .... will be very expensive

GOOD LUCK .. ( I did it .... )

BUT

I can sell You only cams 500USD set ,

IN 278deg 11.2mm , EX 276 10.5mm + shims

-but shims must be grid to correct valve-lash for new cams on your-head
-I recommend lower-head for change CR from 10.5 to 11.8

For 1000USD You can get , set including head work done (CR , valves-lash , valves-set )
You need only put it on block ...

manual saying that Intake cam lift is 9.8mm correct ?

true is 10.115mm ..... (profile measured deg by deg to 0.001mm)

So You can read about ..... I prefer to check it

stock rev3 springs are good for 11.3mm lift ,

-re-griding is safe , I did it on my beams too already 10000km on this set
-stock rev3 valves ,
-compression test showing 232PSI
-megaquirt2 - no problems at all
-Trq from 4500rpm up more than 200Nm only on cams and head-work (with stock intake and exhaust) 200hp+
-will put fresh dyno results soon with hks exhaust-header and ITB

Project is ongoing ,3 engines are already running on different specification:
1. upgraded head and cams (stock exhaust + intake ) only piggyback for fuel correction and stock ecu (at 7500rpm 197hp, 208Nm@5000rpm )
2. upgraded head and cams + megaquirt2 + custom intake (will make fresh dyno this weekend )
3. upgraded head and cams + megaquirt2 + hks exhaust header + custom ITB 4x45mm (ITB in progress after that will make dyno )

I did upgrade of 3 rev3 engines

-cams 278deg 11.2mm lift (custom profile ,re-griding)
- CR 11.8 (head work incl. valves seat griding)
-SA ecu (megasquirt2 ) rev 8100 rpm

as option:

- custom calculated intake manifold with TB 75mm
- custom ITB 4x45mm (calculated for new cams setting)
- hks exhaust header (2nd hand )


set:
-full prepared head with cams (CR11.8 , new cams incl.valve lash etc)
1000USD
- wiring for megasquirt2 + fuel/ignition maps (all setting) 300USD

my custom

for sale set only ....... wing+riser blocks

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6858/dsc03619.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3889/dsc03620b.jpg

location: Poland / Krakov

250USD + shipping

make offer by PM

2 sets available

I still have my beams swapped celica :

-modification detail are in my profile

almost finished itb in my celica


this 3s-ge rev3 dyno is my friend celica , I did modification in his engine

this dyno is only up to 6700 rpm , jdm ecu on 4th gear cat at 184km/h



modyfication :

-cams 278 deg
- CR 12:1
- fuel and ignition tuning

to get good gain on 3s-ge you need :

- new cams
- compression up
- fuel and ignotion tuning (SA ecu or piggyback)

- new Intake manifold or ITB designed for new cams, stock is bad ( I tested on dyno )
- new Exhaust header or just new Y-pipe (2-1) stock is restriction
- move REV to 8200 rpm

I have it done on 3s-ge rev3 and rev4 red-top

3s-ge rev3 stage1 : CR 12:1 customs cams IN/EX 278 deg 11.2mm + fuel and ignotion tuning , piggyback

3s-ge rev3 stage2 : new exhaust , new Intake manifold (currently testing new itb ) , IN PROGRESS still testing

yes 278 deg with overlaping 61-75 deg (so vvti restricted to 14 deg )

more details about Beams in my profile .


Rev3 :

- customs cams (overlaping 70 deg )
- CR up
- piggyBack - fuel and Ign correction

till now exhaust and intake all ..stock

Working on upgrade intake header and exhaust ....
Results will provide soon ....

I have my custom made cams for beams 278deg 11.2mm

and I used same for 3s-ge rev3 making 200hp+ with great torque
200Nm from 4700rom flat till end currently 7500rpm (will be 8200rpm )

so if You want do 5S-GE use 5S block

with my set: custom cams + 3s-ge rev3 head (prepared for 11.8 CR )

for this setup I can provide You more parts

ITB 4x45mm
Y-pipe calculated for new cams setting

this is EGT ,

lambda should be in Y-pipe before catalyst

finally my custom exhaust header is ready








so if anyone need stock header or Y-pipe is for sale

ITB in progress

for sale more parts :

- stock red-top M/T ecu (aready have SA ecu )
- MAF
- stock intake - SOLD

turnip can You put point by point problems you need to solve ??

is not easy track conversation , is not clear what is done and what you need to fix ...


1. idlle problem -- status ?
2. rpm gauge -- status ??
etc.

You dont need celica beams cluster or rpm guge ....


can be stock and for convert signal use :

SGI-8D

http://www.dakotadigital.com/pdf/sgi-8d.pdf

I did it , working well for beams ECU