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There is a stroker kit out there for it. But your gonna take the longgevity of the motor & throw it out the window.I dont thank iv ever seen cams for it. Aad a port & polish on the head will only give you about 10hp to the crank. If you seriously want da 2zz jus get a 2000 or 2001 celica gt-s. its lighter, you can subtract more wieght easily. Its a high 14sec car stock if you can drive it. & with a few mods you can be down to high 13s

Anyone who argues "torque" and drives anything with less than 200 ft lbs of torque... doesn't know jack about torque. Torque and horsepower are just two ways of representing the same thing... work rate. You can have all of the torque in the world but if it has a low work rate (horsepower)... it's not gonna be fast. it can sure tow a lot though. Know the difference before you start saying "blah blah blah... no torque". If anything, the 2ZZ being an open deck alluminum block, you can re-sleeve and bore the motor out significantly more than you can a closed deck iron block (such as an S or A series block). Also... you cannot blame the motor for blowing up because of a sh!tty driver mis-shifting at 8000 rpms. That will pretty much blow up any motor...

Anyway... the reason Toyota people don't like the motor is because it works like a Honda VTEC motor. Most Toyota tuners are just biased and preach "torque" this and "torque" that... but fail to realize Horsepower is what wins the race. Why? Gearing. Torque doesn't take as much advantage of gearing in a accelerating situation as horsepower. Everything works together. Granted the 2ZZ is more limited in terms of tuning due to the motor being smaller and already highly tuned from the factory, but that in no way makes it better/worst than any comparable motor.[quote]


So tell me how i dont know jack about torque? Dude all i said was the the 3s-gte is better cause it has more torque. But it aslo has a top end too. & actually you cant really resleave the 2zz. its a cast iron impregnated aluminum block, you'll ruin it. I work for toyota i know. Have you ever actually driven a celica gt-s 6spd without the TSB tranny updated parts? & Everyone iv talked to loves lift in the 2zz, its not like vtec its better. theres just a very limeted number off parts and there expencive, not to mention the car is a bitch to work on.

if your gonna do a swap in a 6th gen celi then go for the 3s-gte. My brother has a celica gt-s with the 2zz 6sp. Its a great motor but there is no torque. Also that motor is very easy to blow because of the close ratio trans. Lift does kicks ass ill admit. But the motor in general sux unless you start from scratch. Its an all aluminum block with either cast iron or steel insert sleves. so you cant bore it hone it or anything. Stock you can only run 6-7lbs boost cuz it has 11.5:1 compression ratio. The 3s-gte it an amazing swap. You can run stock turbo to 17lbs on rev 3&4 motors. & if you really wanna kill civics do an AWD swap. thats what ima do to mine.