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when i do the swap i will absolutely be getting a new timing belt- i found one from HKS that goes along with the adj cam gears i was looking to get. my question is this: at the $153 (retail for belt) and $185 (retail for gears) would they be the best quality? are there others equal or better for less $$$?

cam gears 22004-AT001 TOYOTA Corolla GTS 1985-1991 http://www.hksusa.com/products/?id=629
timing belt 24999-AT009 TOYOTA Corolla GTS 1985-1991 ; 113R http://www.hksusa.com/products/?id=2937

and yah, they're both purple. my girlfriend thinks it's cute. it's one less thing she'll bitch abt

i was not looking to twincharge. i was looking to take out the s/c and use the turbo in it's place. im definitely getting everything refinished.

i forgot to ask- with this engine already having head off, i was thinking a good cleaning is in order. anyone in the philadelphia area know of a solid shop to do the work? maybe tweak it a bit..

very true.. it's not as if i'd pass one up just bc my engine was already swapped. it's just make things a bit easier with the motor already out, and a little more elbow room to work with. yah well. i can't believe i found a swap so quickly. i just need to wait 2-3wks for the garage space, then i'll have a sc prism. word i have not researched a proper turbo to mate with this setup yet. does anyone know right off hand? i would be happy topping 225-250hp for the time being.

and, btw i have already thought abt needing suspension/stopping power upgrades. searching for suspension tonight when i get home from work. i will definitely be checking out the classifieds here & mr2oc, toyotanation, club4ag, ectoyotas.com. i know i need to find a junked LSi to get all-wheel disc brakes, master cyl, lines.. then upgrade to bigger brakes.

update:

within the next few days i should be acquiring a 4agze swap (from a late model jdm map setup corolla). included with the engine is ecu/harness/440 injectors/arp head studs.

is there anything anybody can recommend that i should get before i start with this? i will be taking out the sc and installing a turbo. but i don't think immediately, unless someone can guide me otherwise.

so much for awd i guess..

i found an entire silvertop (20v) swap- just dynoed @ 160hp, about everything needed for the swap:

full silvertop harness.minus fuse box.
redirected forward facing intake.stock
maf,ecu,igniter,coil.etc
2 sohc trannys
flyweel,trd clutch and pressure plate.
2 walbro inline 190lph fuel pumps

altogether delivered for ~$1000. this is really tempting, but i'd *really* like to find the 4AGZE setup. i don't know.. would i still be able to use *most* of these upgrades if down the road i DO find the agze? if so then i could at least use the practice of taking that engine bay apart. do we think it's worth it for 55 hp- possibly more properly tuned maybe 75 total.. advance timing, 92 octane, etc.. ?

i have the 4afe currently- there's a bit of tapping going on in the higher rpm (and it's not oil level) which sorta prompted the whole project idea. i was really hoping for awd and a motor swap, but it's next to impossible to find the all-trac in any of it's forms. i wanted a new engine altogether because i'd like to see more than 170 horses (or so) for the amount of work i'd be signing up for. to go along with that, i would have to spend a significant amt of money as well for engine internals.

as i said in the first post, i do have a bit of money to spend on the project, but to use it to get to only 170ish horses is kinda foolish. i could use it to get an entirely new car altogether that'd produce significantly better hp/weight ratio and handling.

i need to look into how a 4afe can produce enough ft/lb to make awd zippy, let alone fun. then i'll try even harder to an all-trac part-out.

please keep it coming everyone.. this is really great. most of the other forums im postin on aren't as insightful with their info.. thanks again to all.

i thank everyone for input-

dr tweak: the tracker engine is an s-series, 5sfe and 3sgte should "bolt on". i also enjoyed your $.03 comment. well done

i have custom aluminum fabrication for cost of materials, and some of my time on CAD.

i have never even heard of someone SEEING a corolla all-trac here in the states. between that and most celica all-tracs already being pulled from yards for rebuilds, etc. at least anything within 150mi of where i live. (central pennsylvania) this was the main reason for the tracker part-out. if anyone has a lead on a corolla all-trac (or just the drivetrain) i would be most interested. i will gladly drive just abt anywhere i can get not requiring a passport

btw i am looking for more of a rally/autocross type setup. i commute a fair amount on back roads, full of hills and turns. no off-road, but i'd like to have better traction in snow and wet weather. i have read in some threads abt using celica suspension parts for best handling performance, however i have not gone into as great depths with that as i have with engine/trans setups

please continue with ideas/input! this is exactly what i needed.

thanks!

before i even start this- i know there's a lot of cars that are faster and a lot cooler than the prism. i've grown rather attached to my beater, and would like to see what's possible for such a vehicle. if your comment has to do with buying a different starter vehicle, or anything of that sort, don't waste your time. just hit the "back" button on your browser and continue on your web bullying way.

i also know such a project will take time and money. both of which i have a bit of, and am willing to expend. basically, i have some space, some tools, some help, and want to make my ****box a force to be reconned with.

i have done some research and found some 4dr geo tracker/suzuki sidekick has the same wheelbase, all wheel disc brakes, and 4wd. my goal is to swap the aforementioned goodies into said prism. there is quite an aftermarket following of sidekick/trackers in the offroad scene, parts to support higher torque in the drivetrain are available. i've found they (the tracker/sidekick) use the "s" series engine, requiring a 5sfe or 3sgte to be able to bolt to the awd trans. i know i will need a bit more hp to make the 4wd move as quick a fwd, so i believe the 3sgte would be my best bet. clearly, i will be upgrading the turbo- also requiring a build-up of internals. i have read 100's of build-ups of 3sgte so i have an idea abt what im getting into as far as engine misc.

the reason i have chosen the tracker/sidekick as a platform to base this off of is not only because of wheelbase, but cost of parts. i can find junked 4wd trackers/sidekicks for less than $1000.

my questions are as follows:

1. are there any fundamental flaws in my thought process for the build? are there any red flags going up in anyone's mind pertaining to why this project could not happen?

2. are there any suggestions as to alternate engine/trans combos i should be considering?

any constructive input is greatly appreciated-

thanks in advance.