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beams blacktop into 6gc its been done here on the st182 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJSEl30qn6s

since the 2zzge is returnless fuel line and as well is the beams blacktop its the same crap.

but your best bet would probably be buy a 3sge redtop, get the internals from a beams blacktop and then buy an aftermarket aem standalone ecu.

you'd be at 220hp and about 30 more lbs of torque over the 2zzge.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Feb 8, 2013 - 4:17 AM

whats youtube?

270whp on a k20, and I needed a supercharger to make 230 on a 2zz(no cams)

but thats not my only reason for saying it. K20 is a better designed motor, better transmission.

Either way I think its a bad ass idea. I would never do it, because I rather make power than be different(3sgte) but to each their own.
Good luck dude

With bolt ons and a tune, we managed to hit over 200hp no internals. Not all k20s are a greater designed for the k20a3 had much lower hp and redline than the rest of the fleet. The other k20 does have a better foundation that didn't start till after the 2zz was produced.
And I see the 2zz most compared to the b-series engines.

But yes, the 2zz isn't best choice for this car

C-Lara you are right, 2ZZ is supposed to be competition for the B18C, the Integra GSR engine. In fact, VVTL-i was introduced exclusively in the 2ZZ to be Toyota's take on Honda's VTEC (which includes variable valve timing and lift, aka VVTL)

VTEC is not the same as VVT-i, because VTEC is a fixed increase/decrease in valve timing and lift, while VVT-i is continuously variable valve timing. With the VVTL-i, variable lift was introduced as well.

Then Honda made i-VTEC which is the same as VVTL-i, where the timing is continuously variable and has lift increase as well.

good luck, gonna take a while