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Had a quick search but couldn't find anything, looking to lower my celica I was wondering if someone with experience could give some advice/recommend some springs, also how hard of a job is it to install them yourself?
Thanks

I have these on my celica


and this is what the drop looks like


no noticeable change in ride comfort but huge difference in cornering I give them a +1


i wouldn't recommend doing it yourself unless your comfortable with using a spring compressor, the rears don't need to be compressed but the fronts do

This post has been edited by b22ri22an: May 4, 2013 - 2:14 AM

I actually used a set off ebay that ran $100 pretty darn good around cornering and the drop was about 1.5 - 1.7"
Also installed on some KYB Gr-2 struts at the same time.

Thanks guys, anyone else have recommendations?

Best setup to compliment each other is the Eibach Sportline's and Koni Yellow strut inserts (Special D). Gives you a modest drop with allowing you to fine tune your suspension stiffness. Perfect for daily driving for any enthusiast.

Is doing the springs but leaving the stock struts a bad idea?

depends on the condition of the struts, but i highly suggest new struts with the springs

I have Tein springs with KYB struts. The handling ability it gives the car is phenomenal, you do trade off on comfort though. Stiff bitch gets a whole other meaning. Though if you want handling over ride, then Tein would be a good way to go.

Also running lowering springs on old stock struts is never a good idea. More often than not the struts blow out shortly and now you're paying more for labour than you would had you just replaced them with the springs.

This post has been edited by Box: May 5, 2013 - 2:43 AM

Makes sense to do it all at the same time then I suppose, thanks mate!

How about these?

SIX adjustable coilover kit

Never seen anybody here mention these springs/coilovers.

Another question regarding adjustable springs - Is it possible to rise your car before winter and lower it after? What else would you need to adjust with it?
We usually have a lot of snow on our roads during the winter, and lowered car could be problematic in such conditions...

The thing about those is that aside from the fact that the spring rates are all wrong (way too stiff for oem-spec struts) they effectively shorten the stroke on the struts when you use them to lower the car (just like lowering springs do, however lowering springs only lower a certain amount, while these allow you to drop your car stupid amounts)

I"ve used the coilover sleeves before.

If you do not plan on driving this car often or hard...go for it. Cheap and can lower.

But, expect it to slam. Mounting the sleeve itself can be troublesome, and difficult.

They really are just for lowering without driving IMO. I argued their value a long time ago, but after doing it right. They are a waste of dough.

Coilovers.
Coil over sleeves are a waste of money IMO.
Once oyu've done springs, and everything else required, it will be close to the cost of coilovers.

Springs and struts only cost a little under $400, while coil-overs are $1,000 or more. Though at that point you have to decide on how low do you want to go and how much do you want to spend. If you want to drop 2" or more go ahead and get coil-overs.

Don't do the sleeves. You're gonna hate driving your car that you really wanted to lower & enjoy more imo. I had the coilover sleeves on a Nissan 200sx to lower it & such and ended up putting back the stock springs within 2 weeks! Plus I felt every rock, every pebble, every piece of gum on the road

How do you figure?

Each KYB strut is over $100, then you have a spring setup that's over $200, then there are new mounts, hardware and whatnot that usually run around $150... by the time you're done replacing everything new, you might as well have bought coilovers for the extra few hundred.

Springs on stock struts is a no-no. They WILL fail and you'll be bottoming out constantly after that point. I've run the less aggressive Eibach Pro kit on a Monroe Gas Matic setup and it worked fine for a couple years... but that's a 1- 1.5" drop. Sportlines are 1.5 to 2"

Honestly, just save a bit more money and get a set of Megans for $800.

You don't know how to shop then. You can get the front KYB struts for $48 each and the rears for $50 each. A set of Tein springs is $165. Even with buying a new set of mounts it's still cheaper than the Chinese parts bin coil-overs by a few hundred dollars.

Exactly this.
This is the route I went, and I spent just aobut that by the time all was said and done, except i ran on stock struts for a bit.
If i would do it again i would go coilovers, and yes I did shop arpound for the cheapest prices i could find.

Megan coil over's are not Chinese parts bin.

Here are prices directly from MY store: (Which mind you, do not have to be shipped... hmm)

KYB GR-2 Excel-G Front struts: $80.99 per side (Part numbers: 334379, 334378)

KYB GR-2 Excel-G Rear struts: $92.99 RIGHT, $77.99 LEFT (Part numbers: 334125, 334126)

KYB Strut Mount - Rear: $69.99 Per side (Part Number: SM5087 x2)

KYB Strut Mount - Front: $52.99 Per side (Part number: SM5372 x2)

Moog Strut Bellow - Rear - Incl. bumper: $26.59 Per side (Part number: K90460 x2)

Moog Strut Bellow - Front - Inclu. bumper: $26.59 Per side (Part number: K90460 x2)

Total before tax: $703.28

This is BEFORE the Eibach, Tien's or w.e. else you want to use for springs. So it's ACTUALLY CHEAPER to go with a set of Megans if you were to order everything from in store. Even online, you're looking at close to $700 total from reputable shops and after taxes/shipping. Never will I ever recommend lowering springs again after I've run a set of good quality coil overs.

One thing I'd also like to note. You're going to have to assemble all of this yourself. That means you're going to have to rent a spring compressor. Or, if you bought coil overs, you can just unbolt the top three bolts of your factory struts - unbolt the bottom two to the spindles - take the brake hose clip off - take the links off and just slide the coil over in and spin everything back together. It cuts the labor time in half. So if you're going to do it yourself, you can do other stuff with your day, or if you're bringing it to a shop, this will save you more money on installation. Even if you manage to save the money on buying everything online from the middle of no-where, if you're having it installed, it'll run you more than it would have for a set of quality coil overs.

This post has been edited by RabidTRD: May 16, 2013 - 10:15 PM

Your store is ripping people off then, everything was bought for under $500 for all new parts. That included all four KYB GR-2 struts, KYB strut mounts, and Tein springs. Megan=China parts bin, I believe the "MADE IN TAIWAN" on all of their products kind of gave that one away. That's just fancy talk for "MADE IN DEMOCRATIC CHINA" in case you didn't know.