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post May 23, 2013 - 7:48 AM
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My car have the stadard air filter...Its better to change it and put a mushroom air filter? Which one do you suggest me? I have listen very good opinions about the weapon-r dragon filter?


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post May 23, 2013 - 12:50 PM
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Injen or weaponR. Up to you.


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post May 23, 2013 - 1:02 PM
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Do a google search, you should find a lot of review not only on this site but on the other automotive forums as well.


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post May 23, 2013 - 1:57 PM
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If you're not going to do a true cold air intake you're better of with using a K&N panel filter.


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post May 23, 2013 - 1:59 PM
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QUOTE (Box @ May 23, 2013 - 11:57 AM) *
If you're not going to do a true cold air intake you're better of with using a K&N panel filter.


+1 I would have done this if my hose isnt cracked


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post May 23, 2013 - 2:09 PM
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Yes i think about K&N panel filter but i will not have any change with the sound of the engine right?


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post May 23, 2013 - 3:23 PM
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QUOTE (alex_k @ May 23, 2013 - 2:09 PM) *
Yes i think about K&N panel filter but i will not have any change with the sound of the engine right?

No. If you want sound go with a true cold air that puts the filter into the fender. The short ram intakes that have the filter exposed in the engine bay actually provide no gain, if not hurt performance.


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post May 23, 2013 - 3:38 PM
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QUOTE (Box @ May 23, 2013 - 4:23 PM) *
QUOTE (alex_k @ May 23, 2013 - 2:09 PM) *
Yes i think about K&N panel filter but i will not have any change with the sound of the engine right?

No. If you want sound go with a true cold air that puts the filter into the fender. The short ram intakes that have the filter exposed in the engine bay actually provide no gain, if not hurt performance.


okay i will try to find a way to bring the filter in the front of the car or i will make a handmade box and put it inside..


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post May 23, 2013 - 4:10 PM
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QUOTE (Box @ May 23, 2013 - 11:23 PM) *
QUOTE (alex_k @ May 23, 2013 - 2:09 PM) *
Yes i think about K&N panel filter but i will not have any change with the sound of the engine right?

No. If you want sound go with a true cold air that puts the filter into the fender. The short ram intakes that have the filter exposed in the engine bay actually provide no gain, if not hurt performance.

What is the reasoning behind the sound change and how would it actually sound?


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post May 23, 2013 - 6:42 PM
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Some people like to hear the air coming into the engine. I do personally since I shift by sound most of the time.


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post May 24, 2013 - 3:40 AM
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A short ram roars while the cold air purrs. I like the roar but some like the purr since it sounds like a whine(aka turbo). Lol.


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post May 24, 2013 - 3:40 AM
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A short ram roars while the cold air purrs. I like the roar but some like the purr since it sounds like a whine(aka turbo). Lol.


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post May 24, 2013 - 3:52 AM
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If you get a cold air and its a two piece, put on a bypass filter in between the two pipes. Nothing sucks worse than sucking up water.
post May 24, 2013 - 3:56 AM
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QUOTE (soulshadow @ May 24, 2013 - 3:52 AM) *
If you get a cold air and its a two piece, put on a bypass filter in between the two pipes. Nothing sucks worse than sucking up water.

If the filter is located into the fender and not the bottom of the car shouldn't have a problem with that. If water reaches the upper fender I think sucking water is the least of your concerns at the moment. tongue.gif


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post May 24, 2013 - 9:35 AM
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QUOTE (Box @ May 24, 2013 - 3:56 AM) *
QUOTE (soulshadow @ May 24, 2013 - 3:52 AM) *
If you get a cold air and its a two piece, put on a bypass filter in between the two pipes. Nothing sucks worse than sucking up water.

If the filter is located into the fender and not the bottom of the car shouldn't have a problem with that. If water reaches the upper fender I think sucking water is the least of your concerns at the moment. tongue.gif


if i put the new filter in the same position where the panel filter box was its okay do you think?


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post May 24, 2013 - 11:11 PM
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QUOTE (Box @ May 24, 2013 - 3:56 AM) *
QUOTE (soulshadow @ May 24, 2013 - 3:52 AM) *
If you get a cold air and its a two piece, put on a bypass filter in between the two pipes. Nothing sucks worse than sucking up water.

If the filter is located into the fender and not the bottom of the car shouldn't have a problem with that. If water reaches the upper fender I think sucking water is the least of your concerns at the moment. tongue.gif


I drove 2 years ago with water half way up my 17" wheels from a massive flood. My exhausts went bloop bloop bloop. After that I took off the other section of the intake and made it a short ram.
post May 25, 2013 - 1:22 AM
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QUOTE (soulshadow @ May 25, 2013 - 12:11 AM) *
QUOTE (Box @ May 24, 2013 - 3:56 AM) *
QUOTE (soulshadow @ May 24, 2013 - 3:52 AM) *
If you get a cold air and its a two piece, put on a bypass filter in between the two pipes. Nothing sucks worse than sucking up water.

If the filter is located into the fender and not the bottom of the car shouldn't have a problem with that. If water reaches the upper fender I think sucking water is the least of your concerns at the moment. tongue.gif


I drove 2 years ago with water half way up my 17" wheels from a massive flood. My exhausts went bloop bloop bloop. After that I took off the other section of the intake and made it a short ram.


Wow :-) the good here i live in Cyprus we never have too much rain, and usually when its raining i never take the celica out tongue.gif


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post May 25, 2013 - 2:09 AM
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I found that Apexi air filters are really good as well . Up to par if not better than K&N. unfortunately they are expensive but well worth the costs in my opinion. Been running them for 5 years now with no problem what so ever.


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post May 25, 2013 - 3:37 AM
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I saw a filter comparison somewhere where a couple of filters were tested against each other in a filtering and airflow test. Mushroom filters came out best flowing because the ones they used were designed with a velocity stack integrated into them which helps flow massively.

Cone filters the K&N was the best in terms of filtering but required maintenance (cleaning and re-oiling) to keep its filtering ability up its best. AEM Dryflow filtered less but requires less maintenance (just clean with water) and flowed a little better too iirc.

Apexi filter was the best, I think it filtered better than the K&N and flowed better too, but was really more expensive than any other filter. I think the other filter they used was the HKS mushroom.


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post May 29, 2013 - 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (Box @ May 23, 2013 - 4:23 PM) *
QUOTE (alex_k @ May 23, 2013 - 2:09 PM) *
Yes i think about K&N panel filter but i will not have any change with the sound of the engine right?

No. If you want sound go with a true cold air that puts the filter into the fender. The short ram intakes that have the filter exposed in the engine bay actually provide no gain, if not hurt performance.

Completely false. They tested this and it makes no difference where the filter is, not a noticeable one anyway. What really matters is the intake piping being a direct line into the throttlebody instead of having sections of dead and turbulent air due to stock baffling and "water protection" boxes.

Ideally, the best setup is the stock air box with a high flow air filter and intake piping off of it into the throttlebody. Our Celica's take air from the front bumper and route it through the driver fender into a intake hole up to the air filter. I have my filter positioned right behind that intake hole/plastic air route piping and it does fine.

Watch this:

http://youtu.be/gCi2yo4UqPI


QUOTE (Syaoran @ May 25, 2013 - 4:37 AM) *
I saw a filter comparison somewhere where a couple of filters were tested against each other in a filtering and airflow test. Mushroom filters came out best flowing because the ones they used were designed with a velocity stack integrated into them which helps flow massively.

Cone filters the K&N was the best in terms of filtering but required maintenance (cleaning and re-oiling) to keep its filtering ability up its best. AEM Dryflow filtered less but requires less maintenance (just clean with water) and flowed a little better too iirc.

Apexi filter was the best, I think it filtered better than the K&N and flowed better too, but was really more expensive than any other filter. I think the other filter they used was the HKS mushroom.


For selecting a correct filter, this is right on for air flow. Realistically, the K&N, AEM, Injen, Weapon R, Spectre filters are all the same when it comes to oiled filters. So don't waste your money on the high end ones. Mushroom filters are most likely to allow dirt through, and you might as well use a stocking, and Dry Flow's seem to work well...

Realistically though, you're not going to notice that much of a difference between them. So pick one you think looks and sounds cool and go with it.

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