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Well.. Thinkin about starting to do some cabon fiber work.. Have experince with fiberglass, and have helped do carbon fiber stuff before but was looking for some people with alot to mild experince with cabon fiber or just looking for some how-tos on it.. Have searched online and found some things.

I'm really lookin for some tips etc.. so... Help me out!

P.S.... If I get good enuf with it I "might" try offerin some things for the celica, Not makin promises here, so no...,"Man it would be cool if you could make...." posts please.

Thanks
NEVERSTOP

Man it would be cool if you could make.... oh.... nevermind


There was a thread on here somewhere and I think it was Coomer that posted a link on how to make a fiberglass sub box..... I dunno if that is any help in this situation, but Im just throwing in what I know

if ya cruise over to Celica.net and check the "for sale" forum, look for a guy named "The X2"

He does carbon fiber work.
has pics too.
He came over from my Probetalk.com forums. Now i guess hes gonna try Celicas
he could prolly give ya some pointers.

http://www.fiberglast.com/

a lot of knowledgable people in the forum. check it out.

NEVERSTOP, dont do it..... Cuz CF is more flexible and some of its types lose the texture.. And you will need special resin, to make the texture of CF visible....

LMAO I knew someone was gonna do that~

Those are easy to make... but that was a fun article to read newayz

I've heard of that guy.. Haven't tried gettin ahold of him though, but get the impression from his posts over there that he wouldn't be too helpful, but guess until I try who knows

Yea been browsin that site the last 2 days... It is pretty helpful - havent had enuf time to look threw it fully though.

I can get the correct epoxy resin for it to still view the texture and can get the k3 type of fiber for it. Im not really looking to do any structual pieces right now.. just some cosmetic stuff on the interior

BTW Doggy.. noticed you tried IMin me the other day.. try hittin me up agian - wanted to talk to you about your guage cluster

yO neverstop mad props on the ride. You have done some amazing things. I work with CF everyday, in the oddest of places. Micro RC airplanes. I build them for a college project with a defense company. Anyways, if you have any questions let me know. One of the biggest problems we have is lack of ventalation where we work, and CF is toxic. The fibers can get into your lungs and cause some problems. Anyways we have made wings, and fuselages out of CF, but I actually think for workability and final result kevlar is better. However there is the whole problem of your piece being yellow when your done. Anyways let me know if you have any specific questions and Ill try to answer them.

- AJ -

basically I want to make a few interior peices for the car. I am prolly looking at doing overlays for most of the stuff instead of replacement peices so Im not too worried about strength. What I am concerned about is gettin a nice clear look to the clear coat. I have heard about it "yellowing" like what you mentioned.

I can do molds and stuff like that no prob, but am really looking for info on how to get that deep clear look over the CF. can you clearcoat it like over paint?

The way we do it is buy making the female mold. covering it with a non-stick plastic and waxing it. This gives that side a very shinny look after the epoxy has cured. the only problem with using the female mold is that you will need to use a vacuum bag to make sure the CF holds to the mold. The side against the mold comes our really crisp and the back side is matted do to the use of breather clothe and peely plie (sp?) to absorb the excess epoxy.

- AJ -

could I get around the vacuum bag with doing a male and female mold? with the CF layer inbetween? or do I have to do the vacuum technique?

maybe, you would have to experiment with the amount of epoxy you use. We try to remove as much extra as possible because we want light airplanes. if you use both and make sure to remove as much epoxy as possible or enough as you see fit it should work. I would be concerned with wrinkles, but if you have worked with glass this isnt much different, its just getting the weight and type that you want. Bidirectional, uniaxial etc.

- AJ -

btw, if the male and female dont work and you need to vaccuum bag Ive heard that a food saver works really well. lol

- AJ -

LOL r u serious??? Figured it would take alot more vacuum than that!

Oh well.. figure I'll just jump head 1st into this like everything else I do and hope I can swim

Think I will have a pretty easy time with it though.. can't be too different from fiberglass... but well see

Go to www.selectproducts.com they have videos if you're serious. I've got "the art of plexi" and "fiberglass works" and "routers"

They're great videos, and they sell all the products you'll need.

I actually just laid up a wing out of a kevlar carbon mesh, and I started thinking that I could make some pretty cool stuff for my car out of this stuff. Well ya got me thinking anyway Neverstop. LoL

- NoVa -

LOL started this thread to get my self motivated! not someone else

LOL oh well Im gonna mess around with it sunday.. try and make something small... like a whole front clip or something! naw prolly just make a flat and curved piece just to see how much flex I have and how close of a reproduction I can make with the stuff.. maybe try a few different methods.

edit: It seems to me that the biggest complaint I hear about settin up CF is gettin it to stay with the piece its being mold on.. like adhering it.. I was wondering if you laid down the fiber and then sewed it on the backside to hold it nice and tight.. like if I used nylon thread that should be strong enuf to hold it snug and then just cut it afterwards?

This post has been edited by NEVERSTOP: Mar 19, 2004 - 11:37 PM