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 Feb 20, 2015 - 2:30 AM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
That's ok, Mazda did the same thing with the Miata. I mean come on, look how cute it is.
 The 7GC has PlaySkool interior though, and if it wasn't for that and the lighter drivetrain it'd weigh more than the USDM Celica. I'm curious as to why the ST202 weighs 100 pounds over the ST204 though. -------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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Feb 20, 2015 - 2:33 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Which is roughly the difference between a 2ZZ-GE and a 3S-GE engine weight. A stroked 2ZZ in a 6G with a 6spd would be a fun car, or even a stock turbo'd 2ZZ or a 2ZZ with some drop in 10.5:1 pistons and a turbo. Enough compression to make power off boost but dropped enough to tolerate some good boost with an easy tune.
Yes, the 7G interior quality and materials are not nearly as nice as the 6G, but the same is true for all the other sporty coupes around the same era as well sadly. I'd love a V6 6G as a daily and highway cruiser to be perfectly honest. If I had one more spot in my garage I'm pretty sure I'd have a good lower mile GT with a busted engine torn apart right now. -------------------- |
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Feb 20, 2015 - 3:36 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I wouldn't mind a 1MZ 5-speed 6th gen for a daily at all either. Quick, efficient, practical, and all around nice quality car. The only thing to nitpick on is the drivetrain layout, but suspension and tire wizardry and driving technique can eliminate any perceived weakness anyway.
Yep, the early 2000's sucked for just about every car interior quality wise. Everyone was just catching up to the 4th gen F-body. 
-------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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Feb 20, 2015 - 9:44 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
QUOTE (Box @ Feb 19, 2015 - 10:58 PM)  My god did they ever. *insert cutscene from some 22 years ago in Japan and translated to Engrish for your convenience* Toyota CEO: Well men, the pubric seems to rove the sporty new rook you've given the Cerica. I courdn't be more preased with your efforts. Now what do we have in mind to move our eregant creation? Toyota engineers: Thank you esteemed chairman. For the home market and European market we have pranned the 3S-GE as our entry engine, and our most technorogicarry advanced 3S-GE, the BEAMS, for our top front wheer drive moder, and an awe inspiring arr wheer drive 252 horsepower force using our 3S-GTE. Toyota CEO: Very good. What for the North American market. Toyota engineers: We hate them, just use engine from Cororra and Camry. *evil laughter* Toyota CEO: *holds pinky to mouth* Most excerrent *evil laughter* dude that is freaking funny!!!! back to the 2ZZ, like i keep saying every time this comes up. it wont fit. without serious modification. the exhaust is on the backside and there steering rack is right there. you would have to fab up some crazy header to get the exhaust out of the way. the 2ZZdoesnt make any torque. Its is flat out not the engine of choice to install. -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Feb 20, 2015 - 11:04 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
All this tells me is the 6th gen pretty much is the best generation, at least for the transverse drivetrain generations anyway.
-------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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Feb 20, 2015 - 3:55 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
the super strut adds 30-35 lbs plus maybe another 3-4 pounds each caliper since its twin piston and perhaps another 15 lbs because of the Helical LSD. But even best motoring and several sites list 1210kg for the SS3
-------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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Feb 20, 2015 - 4:42 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
So, should be 60 pounds more at most. Hmm....if the SS-III came standard with the moonroof that'd account for the rest.
-------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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Feb 20, 2015 - 4:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
QUOTE (Box @ Feb 20, 2015 - 5:42 PM) So, should be 60 pounds more at most. Hmm....if the SS-III came standard with the moonroof that'd account for the rest. no the one tested on best motoring had no sunroof. i dont remember that being an option on ss-III -------------------- Group buy to replicate Narrow E series transaxle parts
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Feb 20, 2015 - 7:19 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '12 From Warrior, AL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Unless the 3S-GE weighs 40 or so pounds over the 5S-FE. I don't know why this is bothering me so much.
-------------------- 2001 Miata LS 5-speed
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Feb 20, 2015 - 7:59 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
again. again and again. trololo.
but its fun to see everyone with their panties up in a wad. Yes you can do the swap, but you will be on your own. no one has even bothered. So it will all be on you. spend a couple grand for not a whole lot gains. -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
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