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I just bought a 1995 toyota celica st yesterday and I know not 1 thing about these cars. I recently owned 2 gs-r's 95 civc hatch and 91 prelude so these toyota engines trannys and ecus are way different then what I am used to wiht honda-acura stuff. Anyways I browsed the site for a good while and now I have questions that need answred. 1st how can u tell if your car is st205 or 165 or 185, second what is the engine code for my model like in hondas they have b16, b20, b18 is its 3gste if not whats that? and please explian the 5 afe and 7afe after these r answered I will be set in making a clean jdm celica.

ok, welcome

engine codes for 94-99 US Celicas

ST = 7afe
GT = 5sfe

USDM Celicas chassis codes
ST = at200
GT = st204


st205 = GT-Four AWD turbo (overseas only) - 3sgte 3rd gen
st185 = all-trac AWD turbo 90-93 - 3sgte 2nd gen
st165 = all-trac AWD turbo 86-89 - 3sgte 1st gen

This post has been edited by Batman722: Jan 31, 2006 - 12:33 AM

also, this is from another celica site I saw and thought to post

The Chassis number is commonly used in the international Celica community to identify similar celicas. Confusion can arrise when referring Celicas as simply by trim number. For example, The 6th generation (round headlight) GT trim had different engines in Europe (180 HP 3S-GE) and in the USA (135 HP 5S-FE). Trim designations can also change by region. The same exact celica can be sold as a GT in the US and an SX in Australia due to different cultural perceptions. Thus the chassis is usually used to identify a celica. The Chassis number can be found on the firewall of FWD celicas.
The chassis number can be loosely looked at as a four-six combination of numbers and letters. for simplicities sake, first start by looking at the chassis number as a combination of four spaces.

1 2 3 4
The first space represents the engine family located in the car. For all Toyota engines this is the first letter that appears in the engine code.
8R, 18R, 20R, 22R = R family of engines
4A-FE, 7A-FE = A family of engines
1ZZ-FE, 2ZZ-GE= ZZ family of engines
The second letter designates the car as a "Celica". The letter will either be the letter "T" for FWD Celicas or "A" for RWD Celicas.
The third letter represents the generation of Celica. These are either a 1-digit (RWD) or 2-digit number (FWD).


Generation
Generation Code
1----2
2----4
3----6
4----16
5----18
6----20
7----23


The fourth space represents the various types of celicas that are available in each body style. this is a combination of different engines, suspension and steering available in each particular celica. Usually, there are anywhere from 2-6 celicas made at any one bodystyle.
Using the 6th generation Celica as an example:
0 = FWD, 7A-FE (US-ST Trim)
2 = FWD, 3S-GE (Europe GT Trim)
3 = FWD, 4WS, 3S-GE (Japan GT-R Trim)
4 = FWD, 5S-FE (US GT Trim)
5 = 4WD, 3S-GTE (Europe/Japan GT-4)
Thus looking at various chassis codes....

1 2 3 4
RA24 = R A 2 4 = R- series engine, Celica, 1st Generation, 4- style
AT200 =A T 20 0 = A- series engine, Celica, 6th Generation, 0-style
ST204 =S T 20 4 = S- series engine, Celica, 6th Generation, 4-style
ZZT230 =ZZ T 23 0 = ZZ- series engine, Celica, 7th Generation, 0-style


This post has been edited by Batman722: Jan 31, 2006 - 12:37 AM

you are a brave soul...


welcome padwan

You guys in America have it whacked out when it comes to model numbers. Why do you Americans always have to be different in everything?

i'd say emission controls & safety inspections.

Because we are Americans and we think we're better than everyone else so we have to be different. Same reason we're the only country in the world not using the metric system. Don't get me wrong, we're a lot better off than a lot of other countries. But as far as industialised countries, we're not as awsome as we think we are. That's why a lot of other countries hate America. Sucks, but it's true.

This post has been edited by Bigmeanbulldog55: Jan 31, 2006 - 1:27 AM

Welcome buddy
Enjoy your stay.
This site will have all the answers to your
questions regarding your car.
Just search before you post

awww, i want the 95 hatch .

Ah well the 95 ST....well it looks sexy don't it? I hope you got a liftback. It has the 7afe 1.8L.....YAY! It is FWD. It looks sexy! It doesn't have a load of power.....like 110 hp. Now since you live in NC and I sorta live in NC we both know the OBDI no longer needs emissions inspections....and the villagers rejoice! This means as long as your car "looks" safe and "looks" like it has a functional egr valve you are good to go! So if you want a real JDM celica you will want to invest in a fine 3sge 2nd or 3rd or 4th gen. Or the ultra sexy 3rd gen 3sgte. Either way have fun and welcome to the real car drivers side. Toyota.

since the motor pushes low horsepower whats the bext motor swapp options for me I need power

2nd gen is the most common. 3rd gen is moving up in popularity. Utilize the sticky's and search button for the best answers, even tho Dustins a 6gc encyclopedia.

JDM CELICA : If your looking for good bhp figures you want to do the 3sgte swap. Either from the St205 or the mighty St185 (like mine, can you tell im biased ??) Bear in mind that your going to need to source a gearbox to do the swap, in order to make it fwd, or unless your good with a welder and can fabricate, make it 4wd. You wont be dissapointed either way......

Andy....



This post has been edited by Andy B: Jan 31, 2006 - 11:44 AM

hey man! welcome to 6gc!!! like b boy told me....save save SAVE! its expensive!

hows it going, nice to see u came over here, also theres a lot of bashing hondas on here just a heads up cause u drove enough of em, so i hope u dont take offence

Swaps into an ST can be really anything under the sun, provided you have lots of cash. The easiest one in terms of using old parts would be a 4A-GE 20V Silvertop. it uses the same motor mounts as the 7A-FE and can also use the same Transmission. Same goes for a 4A-GZE (Supercharged). These are both high Rev engines.

Once you drift into the S-series engines (3S-GE, 3S-GTE) you will need new motor mounts and transmission. A few people have swapped a BEAMS 3S-GE, which is nice because it has 200ish HP and N/A. The most common swap among all 6gc swappers is the ST185 3S-GTE. You can find enough info on that swap on here to answer any questions about it. Welcome to the Dark side, hope you enjoy your stay