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 Mar 5, 2007 - 6:46 PM
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I have heard that 5sfe (C-52) trannies can be used for 3sgte motors, so could you use a 3sgte transmission for our motors. If so, what would have to be modified? I was wondering about this because those 5s trannies really suck and they can't hold up to any kind of abuse on the track. Any help would be appreciated
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Mar 5, 2007 - 8:54 PM
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Thats a good question and if anybody does know for sure, will it increase any performance? Or is it all up to aftermarket clutch, flywheel, etc.?
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Mar 5, 2007 - 9:34 PM
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5sfe tranny is S54, not C52.
And theres no 3sgte transmission. Theres an alltrac transmission, which you cant use, and an MR2 transmission, which you can. Search around. The same things need to be done to make it work with the 3s swap. -------------------- |
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Mar 6, 2007 - 7:54 AM
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QUOTE And theres no 3sgte transmission. Theres an alltrac transmission, which you cant use, and an MR2 transmission, which you can. Search around. The same things need to be done to make it work with the 3s swap The main reason I would like to do this is because the synchros are much stronger and durable, and the gear ratios are taller. BTW, what are the gear ratios and final drive ratio on the alltrac transmission? And what is the top speed on it as well? What are the same things that need to be done to make it work as if it was the 3s swap? 
This post has been edited by 95CelicaRacer: Mar 6, 2007 - 7:57 AM |
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Mar 6, 2007 - 8:17 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
QUOTE MR2 Transmission comparison Gear Ratios: s54 e153 1st 3.285 3.230 2nd 1.960 1.913 3rd 1.322 1.258 4th 1.028 0.918 5th 0.820 0.731 rev 3.153 3.545 Final 4.176 4.285 Effective gear ratios (Gear * Final): s54 e153 1st 13.718 13.841 2nd 8.185 8.197 3rd 5.521 5.391 4th 4.293 3.934 5th 3.424 3.132 Speed @ RPM with stock wheels and tires: s54 @1000 @2000 @3000 @4000 @5000 @6000 @6300 1st 5.0mph 10.0mph 15.0mph 20.0mph 25.0mph 30.0mph 31.4mph 2nd 8.4mph 16.7mph 25.1mph 33.5mph 41.8mph 50.2mph 52.7mph 3rd 12.4mph 24.8mph 37.2mph 49.6mph 62.0mph 74.4mph 78.1mph 4th 16.0mph 31.9mph 47.9mph 63.8mph 79.8mph 95.7mph 100.5mph 5th 20.0mph 40.0mph 60.0mph 80.0mph 100mph 120mph 125.9mph e153 @1000 @2000 @3000 @4000 @5000 @6000 @7000 1st 5.0mph 10.0mph 15.0mph 20.0mph 25.0mph 30.0mph 34.9mph 2nd 8.4mph 16.7mph 25.1mph 33.4mph 41.8mph 50.1mph 58.5mph 3rd 12.4mph 24.8mph 37.2mph 49.6mph 62.0mph 74.4mph 86.8mph 4th 17.4mph 34.8mph 52.2mph 69.6mph 87.0mph 104.4mph 121.8mph 5th 21.8mph 43.7mph 65.5mph 87.4mph 109mph 131.1mph 152.9mph s54 5sfe max shift points 1st-2nd 31.4mph 6300-3738rpm 2nd-3rd 52.7mph 6300-4250rpm 3rd-4th 78.1mph 6300-4881rpm 4th-5th 100.5mph 6300-5025rpm Info from http://www.mr2.com/ARTICLE/1991_Specifications.html Like I said the alltrac tranny won't be used unless your doing AWD, but I think the ratios are the same as the MR2. I've tried re-aligning the text but it won't do it after edit. This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Mar 6, 2007 - 8:20 AM -------------------- |
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Mar 6, 2007 - 2:05 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 22, '07 From North Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thanks a lot for the info.
So from what the chart shows, the E153 tranny is useless to me because I cannot tach 7000rpm in a 5sfe which will not give me any more top speed except for about 10 mph in 5th gear. Right? Oh well, I was just trying to get that extra edge!  |
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