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Yes people Mac is thinking again .. I know its been a long time right..
but this post got me thinking why is street racing blocked? , in that thread this post got me thinking QUOTE(devilsden97 @ Apr 21, 2007 - 10:58 PM) [snapback]549176[/snapback] http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=6 ^forum rules The one that posting about street racing breaks: 1. Keep your posts clean. These forums, like the rest of the site, are designed to be a family-safe environment, and that means that you must watch your use of obscenities. This also means not attacking others in your posts. You must respect everyone here. If you're not going to post something helpful or respectful, don't post. This also means no pornography, sexist, racist, hateful, or illegal content as well. because street racing is illegal, it breaks rule 1, therefore it is not tolerated on this forum. NOW IF THIS IS IN THE WRONG SECTION SOME MOVE IT FOR ME>> THANKS The illegal content part just gets to me. If you really think about it anyone that post illegal mods done to the celi, is in turn adding or describing something that they have done that is in one way or another not lawful. Sure swapping an engine an engine into your car is not going to get you in the same kinda trouble, street racing will get you into. But it is still braking a law (which by the way i think is a stuipd one to begin with). Just something i was thinking about and felt like posting, not intended to offended anyone, Just get thinking alot right now. This post has been edited by macavely: Apr 21, 2007 - 10:40 PM -------------------- |
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Technically, swapping an engine into your car that is from an earlier model year than the car itself is, in fact, in violation of federal law.
Interesting angle. And yes, you are in the wrong section. -Doc This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Apr 21, 2007 - 10:42 PM -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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well, wonder why a certain street racer is praised so highly, but not blocked. maybe cuz his car is so DAMN fast.
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^ maybe its because he races on closed back roads, not busy public ones...therefore not street racing, but "old, closed back road, supra eating, high octane, high boost, awd, racing"...
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QUOTE(6gsillyca @ Apr 22, 2007 - 1:05 AM) [snapback]549232[/snapback] ^ maybe its because he races on closed back roads, not busy public ones...therefore not street racing, but "old, closed back road, supra eating, high octane, high boost, awd, racing"... ![]() Maybe because he races in another country besides the U.S. and this website is based in the U.S. -------------------- ![]() |
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QUOTE(6gsillyca @ Apr 22, 2007 - 2:05 AM) [snapback]549232[/snapback] ^ maybe its because he races on closed back roads, not busy public ones...therefore not street racing, but "old, closed back road, supra eating, high octane, high boost, awd, racing"... ![]() you sir, are a winner. ![]() mac, the reason we dont allow street racing threads is simple. believe it or not, there are cops on these message boards, and #1, we cover the site by not endorsing it, and #2, we are not looking to get members in trouble with the law cause of somthing they posted on a message board. it also helps keep down the "i just SO owned this ricer blah blah blah" crap that you see on so many of the other boards. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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QUOTE(6gsillyca @ Apr 22, 2007 - 2:05 AM) [snapback]549232[/snapback] ^ maybe its because he races on closed back roads, not busy public ones...therefore not street racing, but "old, closed back road, supra eating, high octane, high boost, awd, racing"... ![]() don't forget bike raping. |
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Apr 22, 2007 - 10:15 AM) [snapback]549272[/snapback] QUOTE(6gsillyca @ Apr 22, 2007 - 2:05 AM) [snapback]549232[/snapback] ^ maybe its because he races on closed back roads, not busy public ones...therefore not street racing, but "old, closed back road, supra eating, high octane, high boost, awd, racing"... ![]() you sir, are a winner. ![]() mac, the reason we dont allow street racing threads is simple. believe it or not, there are cops on these message boards, and #1, we cover the site by not endorsing it, and #2, we are not looking to get members in trouble with the law cause of somthing they posted on a message board. it also helps keep down the "i just SO owned this ricer blah blah blah" crap that you see on so many of the other boards. i Know this thats why i posted what i posted on the other thread... but my reason for this thread is why one thing gets band and not the other. Something illegal is illegal no matter how stupid the law might be. I guess i'm just the kinda of person that questions everything .. -------------------- |
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It may also have to do with the fact that street racing endangers lives, and not just of the racer, whereas a mod here or there is a matter of personal taste. However illegal mods can be, what you do with the car after the mods is strictly in the realm of responsibility. Like owning a gun. Its legal to own a gun (of course not available in all states and subject to registeration) but what you do with it is where the line is drawn.
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Seems like splitting hairs to me. Cops arent going to search you out because you have an exhaust or blue lights, but they will street racers.
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plus in all technicality it isn't illegal to mod your car up the ying yang unless you are on the street. i don't think it is only because it is illegal that it is a big no no but it is also dangerous for one and if you get caught it is more than just a slap on the wrist. in someplaces (ie cali) you will get your car crushed and that is one less celi on the road and we def don't want that.
to be completely honest i don't see why everyone argues about street racing. honestly. that's what coomer has said no to. it is his site and he has the right to say that. if you don't like it the deal with it. -------------------- |
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QUOTE(goferris @ Apr 23, 2007 - 6:24 PM) [snapback]549746[/snapback] to be completely honest i don't see why everyone argues about street racing. honestly. that's what coomer has said no to. it is his site and he has the right to say that. if you don't like it the deal with it. you said it... im with you 100%, i dont get the big deal why everyone has to talk about it |
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QUOTE(DSToyo @ Apr 23, 2007 - 10:44 PM) [snapback]549751[/snapback] QUOTE(goferris @ Apr 23, 2007 - 6:24 PM) [snapback]549746[/snapback] to be completely honest i don't see why everyone argues about street racing. honestly. that's what coomer has said no to. it is his site and he has the right to say that. if you don't like it the deal with it. you said it... im with you 100%, i dont get the big deal why everyone has to talk about it well some people take a lot of pride in racing some random person on the street (not sure why, i mean they have good tracks somewhere around most big towns and cities) i'd be guessing that they are also still hyped up from the adrenaline rush so thier like "it was so sick, i just smashed on this (insert car here)!".lol personally though, i'd rather be cruising down the street at a slower, safer speed so everybody can check out the beautiful 6th gen ![]() -------------------- |
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WOW not one other then Dr has answered or talked about the real topic of this thread, everyone keeps going back on street racing. This thread wasn't made for that topic, even though it was the cause that started me thinking..
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There are various levels of legality. Modifications to cars (many of which are perfectly legal) are minor in comparison to street racing, much like jaywalking is minor in comparison to murder.
We tolerate modifications to cars here, just as cops tolerate jaywalking. There's a point at which it would get ridiculous to enforce every little tiny illegal thing. ![]() -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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QUOTE(Coomer @ Apr 23, 2007 - 8:42 PM) [snapback]549780[/snapback] There are various levels of legality. Modifications to cars (many of which are perfectly legal) are minor in comparison to street racing, much like jaywalking is minor in comparison to murder. We tolerate modifications to cars here, just as cops tolerate jaywalking. There's a point at which it would get ridiculous to enforce every little tiny illegal thing. ![]() thank you finally an answer i was looking for... and with that said .. how about having a racing section for some of the more responsibly people on the site. Where you or some of the mods would grant access to select members. That can talk about days at the track and or closed roads .. -------------------- |
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QUOTE(macavely @ Apr 23, 2007 - 8:50 PM) [snapback]549784[/snapback] QUOTE(Coomer @ Apr 23, 2007 - 8:42 PM) [snapback]549780[/snapback] There are various levels of legality. Modifications to cars (many of which are perfectly legal) are minor in comparison to street racing, much like jaywalking is minor in comparison to murder. We tolerate modifications to cars here, just as cops tolerate jaywalking. There's a point at which it would get ridiculous to enforce every little tiny illegal thing. ![]() thank you finally an answer i was looking for... and with that said .. how about having a racing section for some of the more responsibly people on the site. Where you or some of the mods would grant access to select members. That can talk about days at the track and or closed roads .. i think thats a bad idea. anything that trys to seperate one member from another, is bad for the site in general, IMO. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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QUOTE(goferris @ Apr 23, 2007 - 6:24 PM) [snapback]549746[/snapback] plus in all technicality it isn't illegal to mod your car up the ying yang unless you are on the street. i don't think it is only because it is illegal that it is a big no no but it is also dangerous for one and if you get caught it is more than just a slap on the wrist. in someplaces (ie cali) you will get your car crushed and that is one less celi on the road and we def don't want that. to be completely honest i don't see why everyone argues about street racing. honestly. that's what coomer has said no to. it is his site and he has the right to say that. if you don't like it the deal with it. ok heres my oppinion...you can get fines out the a** for mods..i have already seen it happen..they start from the exterior and they work their way in...from lowering,lights,exhaust,wing,intakes,tv's,flashing **** going off on your dash even as simple as your alarm light when your driving, and a lot more...they will fine you out to wazoo for it....and most of the ppl on this site have modifications done to their car that are illegal..even the ones that preach street racing is bad and illeagal but in all technicallity they are driving an illegal car also....the type of street racing i was talking about wasnt in the middle of a busy street during rush our indangering peoples lives but downtown in a semi-blocked off road at 12:00-6:00 in the morning...i dont mean to bore you guys with my oppinion but i think that if we can post vids of 0-60 times(which were not done in our driveway im sure) and vids of racing over in the uk illegaly then we should alteast be able to talk about it...there should NOT be a double standard...just my oppinion....its NOT my intention to split the community feel of this board between the street racers and the non but only to state what i have seen and read on this site QUOTE(macavely @ Apr 23, 2007 - 8:50 PM) [snapback]549784[/snapback] QUOTE(Coomer @ Apr 23, 2007 - 8:42 PM) [snapback]549780[/snapback] There are various levels of legality. Modifications to cars (many of which are perfectly legal) are minor in comparison to street racing, much like jaywalking is minor in comparison to murder. We tolerate modifications to cars here, just as cops tolerate jaywalking. There's a point at which it would get ridiculous to enforce every little tiny illegal thing. ![]() thank you finally an answer i was looking for... and with that said .. how about having a racing section for some of the more responsibly people on the site. Where you or some of the mods would grant access to select members. That can talk about days at the track and or closed roads .. i dont think that is a bad idea...but to answer your question jsut as coomer has stated it would be too much of a hassel for the cops to pull over every person they see with a custom exhaust..however it is still illeagal to do so -------------------- ![]() I"M NOT A TOYOTA FAN, IM A FANATIC 1984 accord hatch 5 speed (T-Belt)-Junkyard 1991 VDUB jetta wolfsburg Ed. 5 speed (clutch)-junkyard 1988 Dodge Aries K (sold) 1969 Chevy El camino - Traded for celica 1991 Dodge Daytona-Traded for Celica 1988 Chevy Camaro-Work in Progress 1989 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 - For Sale 1995 Toyota Celica-Work in Progress |
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QUOTE(macavely @ Apr 23, 2007 - 7:50 PM) [snapback]549784[/snapback] thank you finally an answer i was looking for... and with that said .. how about having a racing section for some of the more responsibly people on the site. Where you or some of the mods would grant access to select members. That can talk about days at the track and or closed roads .. I don't know about "for some of the more responsibly people on the site". I agree with pressure2 there, I don't think it'd work. But I think it would be nice to simply HAVE a racing section. Hopefully we could mainly keep the discussions to track and closed road racing. Cause it's not like people on this site aren't doing it. Hopefully most are being responsible, but how does not being able to talk about it make anything different? I see what macavely's saying. There almost seems to be a double standard, cause seriously, people talk about illegal things they do ALL the time. Think about it, every time someone posts that they were going over the speed limit that's virtually the same as saying they were street racing, but the thread never gets locked. And if people are allowed to talk about racing that doesn't mean this site has to endorse it. There could even be a disclaimer on the section: "Street racing is illegal, please don't break the law and endanger lives." I'd just like to be able to discuss with other good drivers (not ricers) about heel-toe shifting, races, launch rpms, drifting, cool stories, and all sorts of "racing" type topics. Anyway, hope I didn't come across too strongly. I don't really care THAT much. But I do see what Macavely's saying, and I don't think disallowing people to TALK about illegal topic's helps or changes anything... This post has been edited by tin_foil: Apr 24, 2007 - 11:46 AM -------------------- ![]() |
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