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If you want some speed just go for a Z. I swear half of the people at 300zxclub.com have owned DSMs before deciding that after they've made their mods that it just doesn't match a 300zx for preformance. They've even made many topics on the matter. It's quite weird.

Well I read somewhere that the NA versions have a different motor and dont get crankwalk..or at least rarely get crankwalk...also putting a turbo on the NA version will be quicker than the GS-T....but ehh ill probably end up getting a GS-T anyways...but i need to check on insurance first

exactly, they have a different motor.

the crank walk wont be there but neither will be the lower compression.

its always better to start off with the turbo version

true,a turboed GS will be faster, becuase of the higher compression and the more power it will make at the same PSI, but the GS-T/Xwill be able to go a lot farther.

Yea..I didnt think about it like that..ive found quite a few gs-t and what not but for the prices i can afford..the newest gs-t ive seen for like 5000 is a 96..and one 97 but im sure itll be sold by the time i get the money...but the newest GS/RS was a 99 for like 5500 i think...im still looking to get the gst or gsx but its just the problem of finding one

also i could build the NA motor up and then turbo it...

This post has been edited by 94TRDCeli: Sep 15, 2003 - 5:32 PM

look on autotrader.com

before i got me celi, i was shopping for gst or gsx, both are pretty rare but gsx is more rare, you will atleast find a gst for sale somewhere

that is always and option, and since you will be rebuilding, might as well increase the displacement with a stroker kit or somthing like that.

that would be good.

just dont get an RS. they have drum rear breaks, ugly unpainted door handles and stuff like that that is just plain annoying. plus the potential lack of power accessories

I will take on all with my rear-wheel drive twin turbo rotary powered RX7 Twin Turbo. It will desemate your eclipses. As you guys reach around 7k to shift on your DSM..I will be reaching 8.5k when I think about shifting. I win. lol. I guess if you're going for what everyone else has, get an Eclipse/Talon/Laser. Whatever floats your boat, just what floats my boat is having something you don't see all the time.

Like a 12 second GTI!

Jon

This post has been edited by FallenHero: Sep 16, 2003 - 12:39 AM

Sh!t man, if i had the funds and cheap ins. i would get a RX7 or a RX8 in a heat beat!!! I love those cars! But since i'm a poor white boy, i'm gonna try to settle for something that's more in my budget and won't rape me terribly on ins. since i'm payin $231/mo for liability only on my celi. Word of advice...don't speed!

what is it with people and high redlines?

it doesnt mean ****.

sure, 3rd gen rx7's a nice and fast with a good performance engine but high revving means nothing unless u have a v12 ferrari.

also, while your rx7 may make high HP, it will never have torque. no car is perfect and IMHO, an awd dsm will always be better than an rx7. more displacement, awd, believe it or not, better reliability.

i know that car choice is personal preference but people should understand how things work. dont put down another car purely for the reason that it is common(btw i dont see too many turbo eclipses) camaros and mustangs are everywhere. all of them can be made fast.

i know of plenty of cars with 5.5k redlines that will own an rx7 anyday of the week. HP sells cars, torque wins races. some people may not like that saying, but its true, and so is the no replacement for displacement saying.

its a nice car, but dont be an ass about it.

i agree with what you said except for the DSMs ALWAYS being better than a RX-7. RX-7s are possably one of the easiest cars to work on motor wise if you know what you are doing, it only has 3 moving parts. back in 91 Renown's Mazda 787B was the first japanese (and only one since) manufactured winner of the 24 Hours at Le Mans, and guess what, it was rotary. i think that says something about the potential of these motors.

Ain't being an ass. Just proud of my car. Just like everyone else is, and everyone says their car is better than everyone else's....because it's your car you think it's best. I'm no exception.

And the "no replacement for displacement" isn't always true. The KA24DE engine from Nissan isn't as versatile as the SR20DE. Besides the fact that the KA24DE has an iron block, the SR20DE engine is much better. Oh well, I guess this is irrelevant information shouldn't be considered since we're on a Toyota Celica forum, but if you ask any Nissan guru they would say the SR20 is better than the KA24 for getting power. So I guess since we are on a Celica forum let's look at the 2.0 3SGTE which has .2 L less of displacement than the 5SFE. Less displacement, but more power.

I suppose it all depends on what you're talking about too, like stock HP or HP with performance upgrades.

Anyways, to actually comment on the original topic...
Way to go on choosing to go with a car that already has boost. Very nice, and yeah that engine will take a beating so have fun man!

i agree

with both.


each car has its advantages and disadvantages.

and redline doesnt mean that its faster. most cars actually lose power as they get into the higher revs. and the highest torque is usually mid revs.

and about popularity I have seen 4 third gen RX-7's here and 4 (not including mine) 2G dsms

one was gs-t, one is gsx, and the other two are Gs's.

the town i live in is about 150K people.

Oh, and thanks to K2 for agreeing with me on the potential of these rotary motors. :-D Props!

And to GT2GT4...I see about 5 a day...sometimes more. I know just in my city, not surrounding areas...there's a gsx, gsx, gst, gst, gs. Just in my city of 60k people. I see more MKIV Supras around me than 3rd gen RX7's. I guess it's where you live.

This post has been edited by snadman: Sep 16, 2003 - 10:57 PM

hey man I don't know where your from but thats definetly not the norm. I see 2g eclipses everywhere back home, like atleast 10 or 15 on a 20 minute drive to my friends house. how many fd rx7's do I see? none, or maybe 1 if I am lucky. in fact at the college I attended last year there were probably atleast 10 2g eclipses parked at any one time. maybe 1 of them was a gs-t no gs-x's for the most part, mostly rs's and gs's. 2g dsm's are mad common man, there is no denying it.

i cant even count how many DSMs i see a day. fact is i could see anything and everything on any given day....speaking of which im going to scan up some of my Woodward pics i got back for you guys... give me a few minutes and check the OT forum.

tons of dsm's out here too.

I see them all over the place here as well. I've only seen three RX-7's that I can remember though.(well, plus several old school ones)

Jon:)

Im sorry but who gives a **** how common a car is? You can always make your car unique...and everyone says the 6gc is rare I see like 5 on my way to work everyday...now if you wanna talk about a common car...look at the mustang..those are everywhere you cant turn your head without seeing one somewhere..and ill admit Eclipses are common but how many of the are GS-T or GSX not too many where I live..I havent seen a GSX in a few months and GS-T in like a week or so...

But honestly who cares why cant everyone just be happy that someone is getting a car that they would rather have.

Also to the guy with RX-7 saying hed rape the dsm or whatever....you obviously didnt read the link i posted or this one

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread...highlight=600hp

But anyways im done rambling

BTW the video can be located here 611HP 2G Eclipse

This post has been edited by 94TRDCeli: Sep 17, 2003 - 11:32 AM