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post Mar 26, 2008 - 2:17 AM
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QUOTE(malpaso @ Mar 26, 2008 - 2:10 AM) [snapback]658083[/snapback]

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QUOTE(malpaso @ Mar 26, 2008 - 3:17 PM) [snapback]658046[/snapback]

I have one more question. Is there any part number or something on it? I mean every part has some special code or number to identify it self... thanks

There probably is but I don't know what it is. I just ordered by application (i.e. street spec for ST204). During assembly the only parts I noticed with numbers were the springs.

Got the alignment done today. I apparently had something on back to front but other than that no big issues.

You know there is one thing confusing... in your picture are all coilovers ''the same'' (I means the same style)

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but every where are coilovers for front and for rear different in the picture

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or other brand

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so if I get it right I must be 100% sure it's for Celica 6gen w/o superstrut suspension nothing like using universal coils or coils for different models (7gen or something).


cause most coil-over are on Japanese RWD cars like supra's skylines, 180sx (240sx for you guys in states, 300zx etc.... and that single bolt bit is for where that bolt to hub assembly for a rwd car with the drive shaft and that....it s simple effective design....celica's (FWD ones...not sure about 7th gens but all the st serise ones (4,5,6th gens) and probably other cars the rear hub assembly is much like the front with a almost mcferson strut set up....that is the reason why.
post Mar 26, 2008 - 2:26 AM
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QUOTE(3s-gte_man @ Mar 26, 2008 - 8:17 AM) [snapback]658087[/snapback]

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cause most coil-over are on Japanese RWD cars like supra's skylines, 180sx (240sx for you guys in states, 300zx etc.... and that single bolt bit is for where that bolt to hub assembly for a rwd car with the drive shaft and that....it s simple effective design....celica's (FWD ones...not sure about 7th gens but all the st serise ones (4,5,6th gens) and probably other cars the rear hub assembly is much like the front with a almost mcferson strut set up....that is the reason why.

I got it! So those in pictures are not exactly for mcperson strut Celicas... just to show some of that brand... thanks!


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post Mar 26, 2008 - 2:41 AM
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Celica rears and fronts look identical. I think those pics above are representations.


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post Mar 26, 2008 - 3:05 AM
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If you look carefully at the uni on top of the box and the one on the floor you will notice a subtle difference in the bottom piece. Everybodys' replies have been spot on.

Oh another thing. I left all the adjustment knobs in the tops of the coilovers - they are really long so can't jump out or anything. They guy at Pedders said that some people freak out about a rattling noise but it's just the adjusters!
post Mar 26, 2008 - 3:37 AM
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QUOTE(Mangozac @ Mar 26, 2008 - 3:05 AM) [snapback]658096[/snapback]

If you look carefully at the uni on top of the box and the one on the floor you will notice a subtle difference in the bottom piece. Everybodys' replies have been spot on.

Oh another thing. I left all the adjustment knobs in the tops of the coilovers - they are really long so can't jump out or anything. They guy at Pedders said that some people freak out about a rattling noise but it's just the adjusters!



yeah i thought they would make a bad rattle but they really don't my mates have d2's and a s2 s14 and evo 6 they handle good but yeah i want tein's (i found a place that will deliver with efdc and the motors all that for about 2000-2100 based on our AUD to YEN at the time. and i want green to go with the yellow..aussie aussie aussie...oi oi oi...lol

post Mar 27, 2008 - 5:34 PM
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OK here's the deal:

I finally got a highway drive yesterday and it is really nasty. It's not that I can't stand it but I have to drive my Grandma on the highway every so often and she is going to break a bone!

At the recommendation of Rom (DSRTFX) I got 7.5kg/mm fronts and 5.1kg/mm rears but it's just way too hard. I called the supplier and unfortunately they can't swap the coils - I have to buy new ones at AU$55 a pop. Upon doing some research I found the following:

Stock rates: 2.9 front / 2.3 rear
Tein S-tech: 4 front / 3 rear

Do you reckon I should just go for 4/3 or go a little higher (maybe 4.5/3.5)? Do you think I'd be able to sell the current coils for cheap?

Some prompt replies would be great.
post Mar 27, 2008 - 5:54 PM
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raise the car up a little bit and set your dampeners to softer

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post Mar 27, 2008 - 6:19 PM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Mar 28, 2008 - 8:54 AM) [snapback]658814[/snapback]

raise the car up a little bit and set your dampeners to softer

The dampers are already on softest.
post Apr 9, 2008 - 12:26 AM
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lol driving grandma with race suspension...
post Apr 9, 2008 - 3:13 AM
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i agree raising it would help but would defeat the purpose but then again, you have another purpose - to drop grandma


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post Apr 10, 2008 - 3:34 PM
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Well funny enough I've since driven Grandma round quite a bit and she hasn't been at all concerned! Granted for long trips she sits on a big pillow anyway.

I had a clunking noise coming from one of the fronts yesterday and after pulling the wheel off it turned out that the nut which holds the strut to the camber plate had loosened off a little. Tightened back up and all is well.

I'm still of two minds about the ride quality. Don't get me wrong - I love the handling the way it is. I can take corners so hard! Even when I do slide out in a corner it's still surprisingly controllable. The problem is that it's kind of embarrassing when you have to drive other people (especially ladies) who aren't all that appreciative of my super handling - I usually don't drive the car hard when there are other people in it.

At this stage I'm a bit low on funds anyway to change to softer springs so will just have to leave it for now. I'd say I'll change it in the future though...
post Apr 14, 2008 - 12:32 PM
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I've got the D2 coilovers and I had the same initial reaction as you...that it's too hard, though the springs have softened out a bit since I installed the coilovers.

Give it a bit of time, Mangozac


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