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post Jun 10, 2008 - 10:58 PM
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Hey guys, I'm in the middle of a 2nd gen 3sgte swap. I installed the stage 4 competition clutch with my factory s54 tranny. I'm am not done with the swap yet, but the motor is in. When I push down on the clutch pedal it just drops right to the ground. It won't spring back. Did I do something wrong? WHat can I do to solve this issue? And when I look at the clutch cylinder it doesn't move.


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post Jun 10, 2008 - 11:12 PM
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did you drain the fluid at anytime?
post Jun 10, 2008 - 11:13 PM
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no not the brake fluid. I drained oil, gear oil, and coolant. I left the brake fluid and power steering fluid alone.


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94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer
95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold
88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp)
94 Celica gt white (sold)

In need of a rust free chassis!!!!
post Jun 10, 2008 - 11:14 PM
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You sure its still sealed up? like have you checked for leaks?

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post Jun 10, 2008 - 11:14 PM
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you hooked up the hydrolic lines, right?
i'd check clutch fluid, then bleed the clutch just like you would brakes.


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1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED
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post Jun 10, 2008 - 11:34 PM
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Everything clutch related is hooked up. So you're telling me to bleed the whole clutch system?


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94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer
95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold
88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp)
94 Celica gt white (sold)

In need of a rust free chassis!!!!
post Jun 10, 2008 - 11:49 PM
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QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Jun 11, 2008 - 12:13 AM) *
no not the brake fluid. I drained oil, gear oil, and coolant. I left the brake fluid and power steering fluid alone.



You forgot about the brake fluid for your clutch hydraulic system. Its on the fire wall, next to the brake fluid.

You need to reconnect the hydraulic lines on your trans, refill the system with fluid, and bleed it.


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post Jun 10, 2008 - 11:51 PM
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Bleed all of it out?


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94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer
95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold
88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp)
94 Celica gt white (sold)

In need of a rust free chassis!!!!
post Jun 10, 2008 - 11:54 PM
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no! just untill there are no bubbles coming out of the line.


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1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED
1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White
1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810
1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD
post Jun 11, 2008 - 2:42 PM
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is it possible that the throw out bearing forks came off in the bell housing? i have seen this happen before


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post Jun 11, 2008 - 4:00 PM
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first bleed the clutch line at the slave on the tranny.


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post Jun 11, 2008 - 6:45 PM
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alright I bled it, but I don't think I did enough. The clutch is soo smushy. Does that mean I still have air bubbles in my clutch line.


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94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer
95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold
88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp)
94 Celica gt white (sold)

In need of a rust free chassis!!!!
post Jun 11, 2008 - 8:34 PM
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its not a funny thing to do. its pretty hard to do. If you still have a smushy pedal then you didnt get the air out. A trick we tried was when you bleed it make sure that if its going to suck back in that its sucking in fluid, not air. Like bleeding break lines. When you open the valve to release air, after the air releases its going to allow air to flow back in, if you rig a line to a clean cup or the bottle itself, when it sucks back in it will only suck back in fluid. this is make it a lot easier and will help you make sure that you are getting all the air out.
post Jun 11, 2008 - 11:03 PM
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What do I need connected to crank the car over? For some reason I go in to turn the key and I get nothing at all. Where do the grounds go? What are the important components needed for sure for a car to crank over?


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98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer
95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold
88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp)
94 Celica gt white (sold)

In need of a rust free chassis!!!!
post Jun 11, 2008 - 11:07 PM
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i think there is a sensor in the Clutch pedal or cable that will not allow it to start usless the clutch is in. When you get Keyless starters they have to remove it. But i for the life of me cant remember whats its called
post Jun 11, 2008 - 11:08 PM
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And how the hell do you extend the throttle cable?

Dude I know that. I just think its the way I hooked up my grounds.


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98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer
95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold
88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp)
94 Celica gt white (sold)

In need of a rust free chassis!!!!
post Jun 11, 2008 - 11:09 PM
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QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Jun 12, 2008 - 12:03 AM) *
What do I need connected to crank the car over? For some reason I go in to turn the key and I get nothing at all. Where do the grounds go? What are the important components needed for sure for a car to crank over?



I Had this problem the other day too. Seems like I had no ground wires at all connected to the engine so my starter wasn't getting any connections. I check all your grounds and make sure you have plenty going to the motor, battery and chassis it self.
post Jun 11, 2008 - 11:12 PM
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okay. How many grounds do we have? I know 2 coming from the tranny. How many from the wiring harness?

What about the throttle cable?


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98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer
95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold
88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp)
94 Celica gt white (sold)

In need of a rust free chassis!!!!
post Jun 11, 2008 - 11:21 PM
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at this point i probably not being very helpful, but it would seem to me that if you have a sluggish pedal, its not because you grounds arnt connected right
post Jun 11, 2008 - 11:39 PM
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ok. i was kinda looking around in the User guide that Griff handed out some time ago and i found an PDF file about System Wiring Diagram. It has something about the Tranny wiring in it and it looks like it has the ground information in it, but i cant make heads or tales of it.

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...39&hl=Griff


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