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 Nov 24, 2008 - 2:45 PM
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nice..
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Nov 25, 2008 - 2:05 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 23, '08 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
^ huh?
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Nov 25, 2008 - 2:25 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 6, '08 From Hamiltron, Ontario Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (supra12big @ Nov 24, 2008 - 2:45 PM)  nice.. ????? 
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Nov 25, 2008 - 2:32 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 19, '07 From tx Currently Offline Reputation: 22 (100%) |
I'm a huge fan of the 3S-GTE engine and as such I had small idea for you altho it's not fully worked out. The 3S-GTE should bolt up to the tranny used on a JDM IS200 Altezza [Or w/e else names they go by
 ] since it already came equipped with a BEAMS 3S-GE. This would be a viable tranny option if you did want to use the 3S-GTE in the 3rd Gen GT.Don't just take my word for granted tho - do some research to be sure. BTW - I used to own an '84 3rd gen Celica/Supra [MKII Supra] - cool car and nice seats too 
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Nov 25, 2008 - 3:30 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 15, '05 From Toronto Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
QUOTE (83gt @ Nov 24, 2008 - 1:38 AM) Thanks a lot for your input guys. To Valo666, i dont mean to be stubborn and not consider your input but the problem with finding a older 20r motor and 22r head and LSD from the 4runner is sourcing the parts. Im sure it is nearly impossible to find any of these that arent beaten to death but ill do more research. If i do come across these parts, would they make enough power? The 3sgte is now sounding like more of a possibility. They seem relatively cheap and can make solid power. It is also about the same weight as the stock motor. Also, i plan on taking as much out of the rear of the car as possible. Im sure it wont get it down to the weight of a ae86, but it should be close right? I know that the suspension will need to be upgraded, and im sure i will need to fabricate strut and sway bars to reduce body roll as i am sure there are none available. Will the 3s and suspension/body upgrades make for a decent drift car? If it does, trust me ill be practicing haha. They will make a ton of torque, so it will be able to break your wheels loose without a problem. I mean guys are making crazy drag cars and rock crawlers with runnin a carbed 20R motor. As for weight, the 83 celica's curb weight was 2,566 lbs, AE86's curb weight for fully loaded model, 2075 lbs. Its not to say that you cant make these things crazy, but you can. There are some decently quick ones with 7Ms put in them, but it definatly throws the weight off. You could also go out and buy a rear end out of a MKII supra P-type with an LSD. This is Keroppi's old one...  But heres a couple pics of nice one ive found from some celica club website...    |
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Nov 25, 2008 - 8:42 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '04 From So Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
Wait wait wait... I don't understand...
Why swap a 1J into the tiny bay of the Celica when you can just direct swap it into a 82' Mark II Celica Supra?!?!?!?!?!?! Aren't they the same **** except Toyota has already done the work for you by extending the front end longer for the 6? -------------------- |
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Nov 29, 2008 - 4:44 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 15, '05 From Toronto Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
they are the same wheel base, and almost the same length, the supra's front end does come out further and where the rad support is welded is about another 2 inches further out than a celicas. You can fit 1JZ into celicas, but they do require some minor alterations, like cuttin firewalls, engine mounts, supporting the front frame rails and cross member, cuttin into the tranny tunnel/center console, mounting the fan on the otherside of the rad. It can be done, like any thing, just takes time, and alot of $.
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Dec 3, 2008 - 11:04 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 23, '08 From Baltimore, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well i didnt come back with the car guys. Its not in running condition right now so i couldnt get it home. Even if it was running i wouldnt have been able to bring it back cuz of the ****ty weather. It looks like this project will have to wait for the spring. Thanks to everyone for their input. This thread will probably help someone else out with a similar project so i think it was worth it. Im sure ill have more questions for you all when i start this up again.
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Dec 7, 2008 - 7:00 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 21, '06 From washington Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
QUOTE (Valo666 @ Nov 25, 2008 - 12:30 PM) QUOTE (83gt @ Nov 24, 2008 - 1:38 AM) Thanks a lot for your input guys. To Valo666, i dont mean to be stubborn and not consider your input but the problem with finding a older 20r motor and 22r head and LSD from the 4runner is sourcing the parts. Im sure it is nearly impossible to find any of these that arent beaten to death but ill do more research. If i do come across these parts, would they make enough power? The 3sgte is now sounding like more of a possibility. They seem relatively cheap and can make solid power. It is also about the same weight as the stock motor. Also, i plan on taking as much out of the rear of the car as possible. Im sure it wont get it down to the weight of a ae86, but it should be close right? I know that the suspension will need to be upgraded, and im sure i will need to fabricate strut and sway bars to reduce body roll as i am sure there are none available. Will the 3s and suspension/body upgrades make for a decent drift car? If it does, trust me ill be practicing haha. They will make a ton of torque, so it will be able to break your wheels loose without a problem. I mean guys are making crazy drag cars and rock crawlers with runnin a carbed 20R motor. As for weight, the 83 celica's curb weight was 2,566 lbs, AE86's curb weight for fully loaded model, 2075 lbs. Its not to say that you cant make these things crazy, but you can. There are some decently quick ones with 7Ms put in them, but it definatly throws the weight off. You could also go out and buy a rear end out of a MKII supra P-type with an LSD. lol you'll make more power with a 20r head on a 22r motor. it will bump the engines compression. also if u want to get more power out of the 22r toyota made a turbo 22re or if its carb they have a dual side draft carb system out there that looks bad ass. there is an endless amount of parts for that motor you just have to know who to talk to. another thing is if you go with a bigger cam you will need a lot stronger valve springs. that 22r will last forever even with a lot of abuse. also for the p-type lsd out of the celica supra of the sameyear. its only for the gts of celicas with the irs(independent rear suspension) and even than you need to take the whole rear end not just the pumpkin itself. --------------------  |
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