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what is better a non LSD tranny with aftermarket LSD installed or a stock tranny with LSD............basicly the gt 5sfe tranny (dont know model of that tranny sry) with aftermarket LSD installed or th e153 LSD tranny

r maybe the e153 with aftermarket LSD

This post has been edited by Dragondog: Mar 12, 2009 - 3:53 AM

e153 w/lsd FTW every time.
you can install the MKIII mr2 factory option lsd into the s54 (GT) tranny, but your still stuck with the super short gearing.

So LSD is an option on e-153?

Is there a way to know if the MR2 has the LSD ? Like, does all SW20 have LSD?

more to the point, what motors will the e153 mate up to?

lsd was an option on 93+ mr2T's.
it mates to "s" series engines, griffy.

I never saw a tranny with LSD. Any hints on how it looks like?

Over 80% of GEN3 Mr2's came with E153 LSD. There is a very simple way to tell if the trans has LSD if it is off the car, or the axles are out of it......there will be a "bar" going across the back of where the axles sides into the tranny. I need to pick up batteries today for the camera......so I will post pics of exactly what I am talking about later. (I am running an E153 with LSD from a GEN3 Mr2)

And Yes E153 LSD FTW!

I figured as much, but it was worth a try

So here's my next question— these came optional on MR2Ts (OPTIONAL!? Uh, yeah, that's a no-brainer if you ask me!), okay, which means that they would need to be converted to FWD for Celi transplant use.

I did a little research and also found that these came in the v6 Camry starting in 1992 as well and purportedly can mate up to a 1mzfe - is that because it's a FWD tranny? Did they come w/LSD? I realize that motor is a completely different motor than my puny little F engine, but I'm just trying to understand how this all works. If a 3.0 1mzfe Camry came w/LSD, then it would stand to reason that that would be the tranny to be searching for, not an MR2 tranny necessarily.

the e153 from the camrys and solaras are non LSD, and are FWD.
just to add to what jim said earlier, the factory LSD's from e153 have the bar, non lsd e153 does not, however, the s54 trannys have the same type of bar, but are non lsd.

ok ic so the e153 has longer gears thats a plus..where will it redline at.....r would that depend on the motor

This post has been edited by Dragondog: Mar 13, 2009 - 5:19 PM

like presure said they did not have the option for LSD on camry e153... but you can insert it "TRANSMISSION:
99 Camry V6 5spd transmission w/ 95 JDM MR2 Limited Slip Differential"

what can be used for beams transmission swap with gt axles? can this be used? http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/performanc...n/Differentials

and i was doing radiator flush and fill the other day. this vid just shows how you can test if you have lsd or not... or atleast i think it does, some people said it
doesn't.

people say it caused fwd to understeer more? that true??? understeer is caused when you touch gas quickly through a sharp turn. (hmm feel like im repeating myself here. i think i said this in another lsd post) so from my understanding from horsepowerfreaks trd lsd discription. if not accelerating hard. you will have tendency to understeer.




This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Mar 17, 2009 - 7:55 PM

not true at all... not even close... the e153 is not a clutch type lsd... it will only engage under load... that video is 100% false... that car could or could not have lsd... jacking it up and spinning the wheels is NOT a way to find out for an e153 with stock lsd

(kind of dangerous) just jacking up one wheel or having one wheel off the ground somehow safely, if no lsd the free wheel would spin


sorry not putting much thought into it

Get your mate to do a short burn out and stand about 20 meters infront to see if both wheels smoke up.

lsd doesnt create understeer, its designed to help eliminate the natural tendency of a front engine front drive car to understeer. the visible effect with lsd is when using a heavy foot around corners, the car accelerates towards where the wheels are pointed rather than towards where the car itself is pointed.

on my 5s tranny i can noticably see that it has been open and tamperd with.....i did a burn out on it to check if it has had a lsd installed b4 i bought it....i burn out dual tracks equal melted the tires on both sides and left equal burn out marks........???

that means nothing, my car also leave 2 tire marks, no LSD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFRwgBipDZc

I am RUNNING an E153 with LSD in my setup, BUT have had the experience of running an E153 NON-LSD on my old setup to compare to.....and I can tell you there are ZERO differences between the E153 LSD and E153 NON-LSD in the way the care feels under NORMAL driving conditions. Normal meaning just out driving, not really pushing the car.

When taking a turn and accelerating threw it WITHOUT putting any real load on the motor.....the E153 LSD feels/acts NO DIFFERENT than the same car with a NON-LSD E153.....As a matter a fact.....it feels/acts NO DIFFERENTLY than a NON-LSD S54.

Now, when you are really pushing the car is when you feel the LSD. When pushing the car in a straight line.....the car is smooth as glass, and there is ZERO torque steer, unlike NON-LSD transmissions where you really need to hold/fight the wheel when accelerating hard.

As for turning....well a NON-LSD will be able to turn "sharper" than a LSD when really pushing the car threw a turn. If I push the car threw a turn, I can feel the car want to "push/straighten out" in the opposite direction of the turn. This is because both tires are doing the same speed, when the inside wheel "should/want" to spin at a slower rate.

To clear that up.....if I am really pushing the car hard threw a sharp right hand turn, the cars wants to "push/straighten out" to the left......and opposite goes for a left hand turn.

This is not uncontrollable by any means, just takes a bit of getting used to.

ok ic...what bout driving in wet/icey conditions does the lsd help at all....?

cant you use a s54 and a s53 to make a longer gear ratio?