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post Jun 16, 2009 - 10:42 PM
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Ok so heres the deal. i have a dog, hes a pitbull/chow-chow mix. when im home or when anyone is around hes an amazingly good dog. its when i leave...terror! he is about the most destructive dog i have ever seen. he tears up anything left on the table, knocks the chairs and stools over, even tears up the carpet! im at my wits end with him, hes 2 years old and i thought he would be through this by now. anyone know what i can do?


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post Jun 16, 2009 - 11:09 PM
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get him to training school.


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post Jun 16, 2009 - 11:13 PM
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Yeah we did training school woth him when he was a little under a year old. that made him alot better but only when were around. its wierd


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post Jun 16, 2009 - 11:14 PM
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get Cesar Millan "The Dog Whisperer" laugh.gif


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post Jun 16, 2009 - 11:14 PM
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Have you tried crate training him? Everytime I leave, I always put my dog in the crate. I know she is safe in there, and nothing will get destroyed.


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post Jun 16, 2009 - 11:19 PM
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i think your dog needs a dog friend. bring a friend's dog over and see if your dog changes behaviour. i bet that your dog is very social which is why your dog is amazingly friendly when people are around, but becomes lonely and bored after being left alone and has nothing to do but destroy things..


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post Jun 16, 2009 - 11:34 PM
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Hes crate trained right now, thats where we put him when he screws up. i dont like the idea of the crate though. now we did think of getting him a friend. im just a little worried about what kinda dog he would get along with. my buddy has a 2yr boxer and a 3yrbassethound/corgie mix and my dog plays with them really well.

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post Jun 17, 2009 - 1:03 AM
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I agree with the crate training...
It isn't by all means cruel to keep them crated while youre gone... I've worked in the veterinary business for nearly 3 years now and all my bosses (doctors) suggest the crate as an effective tool. Its safe for them because it keeps them from getting into something that'll hurt them (something poisonous, chewing at wires, eating something they werent suppose to and getting an internal blockage), and your house will thank you too because you won't have a dog tearing your sh*t up. lol The main purpose of them is to give the dog it's own lil space or 'den' where it can always feel safe and relaxed... It can also help with separation anxiety. A crate actually isn't very effective using as punishment only because then you put a fear of the crate into the dog because thats where they go when they get into trouble... If its introduced as a sort of safe haven, your dog would be more than happy to go into it...

Also... maybe consider taking him for a walk so you can tire him out so he won't really have the energy to be destructive. tongue.gif


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post Jun 17, 2009 - 10:11 AM
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Definately agree with more walks! The more energy you can get out of him under a controlled situation, the better b/c he won't be soo wound up.

Honestly, I don't like the idea of crate training that much, I think it's alright for if you are gone for only a couple of hours, but after that, you'd want to have someone home to be able to interact with him so he doesn't get bored or get so wild up (when he has the chance) when your not there.


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post Jun 17, 2009 - 10:46 AM
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QUOTE (CelicaBuddy @ Jun 17, 2009 - 1:03 AM) *
I agree with the crate training...
It isn't by all means cruel to keep them crated while youre gone... I've worked in the veterinary business for nearly 3 years now and all my bosses (doctors) suggest the crate as an effective tool. Its safe for them because it keeps them from getting into something that'll hurt them (something poisonous, chewing at wires, eating something they werent suppose to and getting an internal blockage), and your house will thank you too because you won't have a dog tearing your sh*t up. lol The main purpose of them is to give the dog it's own lil space or 'den' where it can always feel safe and relaxed... It can also help with separation anxiety. A crate actually isn't very effective using as punishment only because then you put a fear of the crate into the dog because thats where they go when they get into trouble... If its introduced as a sort of safe haven, your dog would be more than happy to go into it...

Also... maybe consider taking him for a walk so you can tire him out so he won't really have the energy to be destructive. tongue.gif


+1. A crate is there for a dog's personal space, not as a time out/disciplinary action.

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post Jun 17, 2009 - 12:47 PM
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i hate the whole idea of crate traning. especially because i work 10 hours a day. i walk him every night when i get home for about 45 to an hour. and we try and take him with us when we vo out on the weekends so he can get out a little more. i tried leaving him in my yard during the day but its the same thing, he gets bored so he digs. i think im gonna go to the pound tomorrow and see if u can find him a friend.


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post Jun 17, 2009 - 1:24 PM
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HUMM..it seems as if you dont spent enough time with your dog? sayin you work 10 hour day..if i was the dog i would be super bored and of course push myself into a destructive behavior just to get some attention. diggin holes and chewing things up..if you research it leads to the dog being bored. i too have 2 full-blooded pit bulls and they are the sweetest and nices dogs in the world..but one thing with any pit bull breed is that they are very very high energy dogs and needs alot of attention. but in your case you only have one dog so i do recommend getting a buddy for your dog.


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post Jun 18, 2009 - 3:45 PM
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I live in a ghetto side of town and not saying it is ok, but most of them will literally beat their dogs when that happens. Now, their dogs listen to everything they say.


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post Jun 18, 2009 - 6:50 PM
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Have you tried giving him a toy full of food? Thats what I do with my dog and it keeps him occupied for a couple of hours.
post Jun 18, 2009 - 9:36 PM
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Crate training is not bad at all. Both of our dogs are crate trained, and now that I'm staying home during the days I expected them to be out playing most the day. Guess what? They don't, they mostly just sleep in their crates with the doors open or sleep in the same room. They see the crates pretty much the same way that a kid sees their bedroom, it's a safe place. If you're afraid of them getting bored go buy a Kong toy and stuff it the night before with some dog food and some applesauce or peanut butter or something, freeze it, and leave it with them in the crate while you are gone.

It definitely sounds like your dog has separation anxiety issues. But also remember it's a dog, even the best dog will want to dig and chew on stuff. The only difference is if you can teach them what's good to chew on and what's not. Go get him a pig hoof or a bully stick or big rawhide or something to chew on, that will give him hours of enjoyment.


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post Jun 19, 2009 - 3:08 PM
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I have tried the toy full of food thing. It keeps him busy for a while but i think hes seriously ADD. hell be doin somethin like that and then jump up at 110mph and be doin somethin else. then come back and see it and itll be like "OH ****!!!" like its the first time hes seen it. hahaha. When i was first introduced to crate training it was explained to me as a disiplinary measure by my trainer. i tried to argue the point and she just said i was wrong. so now my dog hates the crate. hes not scared to go to it, but he thinks it means hes in trouble, so he tries to avoid it. she also told me to never put food or water in it...i didnt listen to that one, he always has both in the crate. i think with another dog it will be better for him. im just worried about the 2X effect of having 2 dogs. would it be easier to get a puppy and train it from day one or get another fullgrown dog?

we did try the big rawhide toys, he can blast through the big ones, that r like 2 feet long, in about 2-3 hours...

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post Jun 19, 2009 - 5:32 PM
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QUOTE (Random_Stranger @ Jun 18, 2009 - 1:45 PM) *
I live in a ghetto side of town and not saying it is ok, but most of them will literally beat their dogs when that happens. Now, their dogs listen to everything they say.

Why would you even post that sh1t? WTF man. I'm not one to rag on people's opinions, but that is just about the stupidest f*$#ing post I've read on this site. Have the decency to edit it and get rid of it. You're saying it's okay just by posting that and suggesting it. Passive aggressive &$@#ing crap.


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post Jun 19, 2009 - 5:36 PM
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QUOTE (BURNSJ2 @ Jun 19, 2009 - 1:08 PM) *
I have tried the toy full of food thing. It keeps him busy for a while but i think hes seriously ADD. hell be doin somethin like that and then jump up at 110mph and be doin somethin else. then come back and see it and itll be like "OH ****!!!" like its the first time hes seen it. hahaha. When i was first introduced to crate training it was explained to me as a disiplinary measure by my trainer. i tried to argue the point and she just said i was wrong. so now my dog hates the crate. hes not scared to go to it, but he thinks it means hes in trouble, so he tries to avoid it. she also told me to never put food or water in it...i didnt listen to that one, he always has both in the crate. i think with another dog it will be better for him. im just worried about the 2X effect of having 2 dogs. would it be easier to get a puppy and train it from day one or get another fullgrown dog?

we did try the big rawhide toys, he can blast through the big ones, that r like 2 feet long, in about 2-3 hours...



Have you thought about doggie day care? It sounds like he's bored and has anxiety. Getting him a friend may help, or it may just double your problem because you'll be banking that he'll learn the good behavior from the doggie friend, when in fact it typically seems to work the other way around and the good dog turns into a little 4 legged demon. laugh.gif

A doggie day care thing will keep your dog happy and occupied, and will also help him to learn better habits because he'll be out numbered by dogs who behave tongue.gif

Crate training shouldn't be used for punishment, by the way. NEVER. The crate is a personal space for the dog to feel safe... it's his/her little domain. Crate training is absolutely humane and good to do, although I agree that 10 hours a day in a crate is totally unfair and no kind of life for a dog. It's better than letting him be loose and destructive, where he can hurt himself seriously (and he WILL eventually), but you've GOT to find a better alternative that works well for your family AND your pup.


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QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Jun 19, 2009 - 3:36 PM) *
Have you thought about doggie day care? It sounds like he's bored and has anxiety. Getting him a friend may help, or it may just double your problem because you'll be banking that he'll learn the good behavior from the doggie friend, when in fact it typically seems to work the other way around and the good dog turns into a little 4 legged demon. laugh.gif

A doggie day care thing will keep your dog happy and occupied, and will also help him to learn better habits because he'll be out numbered by dogs who behave tongue.gif

Crate training shouldn't be used for punishment, by the way. NEVER. The crate is a personal space for the dog to feel safe... it's his/her little domain. Crate training is absolutely humane and good to do, although I agree that 10 hours a day in a crate is totally unfair and no kind of life for a dog. It's better than letting him be loose and destructive, where he can hurt himself seriously (and he WILL eventually), but you've GOT to find a better alternative that works well for your family AND your pup.



I think it sux for him to be stuck in that dam cage all day. when i put him in there he looks at me with the most horrible face. im a full grown man, and it makes me wanna cry like a baby laugh.gif it sux. but i cant have him tearin stuff up. GOT to find a better alternative u say.... 6GC to the rescue says I! laugh.gif biggrin.gif


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Well said Sabrina.

I have a 8 year old Rotti,Shepard,Doberman mix. If you leave him home alone for too long, or if he's mad at you he will eat anything. He ate my parents coffee table. We crate trained him when we first got him and it was the best thing we ever did. He loves his crate.

My sister's dog (rotti pitbull mix) is staying with us temporarily and it makes my dog crazy. He actually puts himself in his crate to be alone. You cannot use the crate as a punishment though. The purpose is to give the dog his own space. You'll see that pretty soon your dog will be hanging out in his crate on his own! smile.gif

As far as a "friend" is concerned... its not a solution. My dog used to play nice with other dogs... now that my sisters dog is living here he's become aggressive. Dogs are pack animals, so when you have two dominate dogs (like in my situation) they will not only act differently to other dogs but to you. Its like an attention thing. my dog used to have all the attention, now he has to share it with my sisters dog. He's totally not cool with that.

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