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> Installed new suspension **Pics added**, Megan Racing lowering springs with GR-2s
post Oct 29, 2009 - 4:41 PM
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Maybe it's your wheels and tires, but when I lowered my car 1.5" on Eibach Sportlines, it looked lower than that. But I was on stock wheels and 225/55 tires. I have no idea what size yours are, and I'm too lazy to read the first page to find out, but mine definitely looked lower at the time.


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post Oct 31, 2009 - 12:12 PM
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how's the ride of the car now? still harsh? too stiff? speed bumps, dips, etc? i just wanna get an idea of whether or not i should go this path. it seems like the most affordable way for me to go..im currently running on stock 205/55/15"s maybe gonna go for the 7th gen wheels and rims later on too. any recommendations on what springs, shocks i should get?
post Oct 31, 2009 - 1:42 PM
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^ Per shocks, go for KYB GR-2. For springs...well, I'm also contemplating these. Depends on how harsh you want your ride, from what I'm reading here. I might go Tein S-Techs, still.


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post Nov 3, 2009 - 4:01 AM
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QUOTE (sunwukongg @ Oct 31, 2009 - 1:12 PM) *
how's the ride of the car now? still harsh? too stiff? speed bumps, dips, etc? i just wanna get an idea of whether or not i should go this path. it seems like the most affordable way for me to go..im currently running on stock 205/55/15"s maybe gonna go for the 7th gen wheels and rims later on too. any recommendations on what springs, shocks i should get?


I've gotten used to the ride, but when other people ride in my car they complain. I would describe it more as harsh than firm. For example, my friend's M3 with H&R race springs and bilstein shocks has a firm but smooth ride that soaks of all the bumps, but you feel every part of the road and it handles amazingly. With the megans and KYBs in my car, I feel every single imperfection in the road being directed into my seat, which gets really annoying on long drives. Although I'm sure it has to do with the fact that our suspension geometry is completely different and he paid $1000 for his suspension upgrade tongue.gif

Call me a pansy, but my car with this set up installed definitely has the harshest ride I have ever experienced.

But for the price you really can't go wrong with the megan/kyb set up. Yeah the ride is harsh but the car looks so much better sitting lower to the ground, and it handles significantly better than with the stock suspension. Body roll has reduced slightly and the car is a lot more stable under sudden transitions.

post Nov 3, 2009 - 12:45 PM
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Well, I think I'll go with Teins then, from your description. The roads here aren't all perfect and I don't want my car to ride like crap. I drive to my mom's place 45 minutes away at least once a week, and that's mostly highway...so no go then. kindasad.gif


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post Nov 3, 2009 - 2:36 PM
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Nov 3, 2009 - 1:45 PM) *
Well, I think I'll go with Teins then, from your description. The roads here aren't all perfect and I don't want my car to ride like crap. I drive to my mom's place 45 minutes away at least once a week, and that's mostly highway...so no go then. kindasad.gif


There's a thread somewhere here in the suspension section comparing the spring rates and stiffness of all the springs available for our cars, and the megan's are by far the stiffest of the group. It's not in the stickys, so I don't feel like searching for it right now.
post Nov 3, 2009 - 2:54 PM
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QUOTE (Promasta @ Apr 5, 2009 - 11:42 AM) *
teins are not very stiff, actually softer than stock in the rear
here are some spring rates:
stock: 2.9 kg/mm front, 2.3 rear
tein: 3.9f, 2.2r
df210: 3.1f, 2.8r
nf210: 2.9f, 2.3r
gh210: 3.5f, 3.0r
TRD: 4.1f, 2.9r
megan: 5.4f, 4.5r
post Nov 4, 2009 - 12:46 AM
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QUOTE (flyinglizard @ Nov 4, 2009 - 5:36 AM) *
QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Nov 3, 2009 - 1:45 PM) *
Well, I think I'll go with Teins then, from your description. The roads here aren't all perfect and I don't want my car to ride like crap. I drive to my mom's place 45 minutes away at least once a week, and that's mostly highway...so no go then. kindasad.gif


There's a thread somewhere here in the suspension section comparing the spring rates and stiffness of all the springs available for our cars, and the megan's are by far the stiffest of the group. It's not in the stickys, so I don't feel like searching for it right now.


yupp so just get their coilovers hehe


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post Dec 9, 2009 - 1:27 PM
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Just stumbled across an old photo to give a definitive look at before and after installing the megan springs.
monster-truckin'

day after install

today


I need thicker rubber.

This post has been edited by flyinglizard: Dec 9, 2009 - 1:46 PM
post Dec 18, 2009 - 9:17 AM
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Wow that was really high. Here are pics of my wheel arch gap, is this normal for an st205?? As far as I know it hasn't been lowered





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post Dec 19, 2009 - 5:55 PM
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I've never seen an ST205 in person before frown.gif I wouldn't know.
But yeah it was unusually high when it was stock.
post Dec 20, 2009 - 4:24 AM
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QUOTE (flyinglizard @ Dec 9, 2009 - 8:27 AM) *
I need thicker rubber.


None sense stupid laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif you need MOAR LOWAAAARRRRR!!!!!!!!!!


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post Dec 20, 2009 - 4:24 AM
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**edit double post dont know what happened?

This post has been edited by 808celica: Dec 20, 2009 - 4:25 AM


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I don't normally drive fast, but when I do its on a curvy section of this island
post Dec 20, 2009 - 5:31 AM
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looks like you didn't lower it at all.


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post Dec 20, 2009 - 11:38 AM
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I'm wondering if the springs are too stiff...I see a lowering, but not 2". With S-Techs, the rear looks significantly lower because the rear spring rate is low, so I think it actually drops more than .9". So what I'm saying is...the stiffness of your springs might preserve some height due to the weight of the car not pushing the springs down as much?

I'm hoping something like this won't happen with my Sportlines. kindasad.gif

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post Dec 20, 2009 - 5:41 PM
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QUOTE (trdproven @ Dec 20, 2009 - 6:31 AM) *
looks like you didn't lower it at all.


I think you are looking at the wrong pictures tongue.gif
The first one is before, the second two are after. There's a drastic difference. If you look at the wheel gap, it's clear that the car is about 1.5" lower.

This post has been edited by flyinglizard: Dec 20, 2009 - 5:53 PM
post Dec 20, 2009 - 6:43 PM
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there is a difference but I would not say drastic. slight maybe. Why don't you adjust it lower and also toggle your damper at the same time. Honestly if you are going to keep it at that height it was pointless getting coilovers. you might as well get TRDs or Teins.

I have negative finger gap meaning my finger can't go inside the fender, I am touching the tire. You dont have to go that low but if you imagine where mine is at and your after difference, I can still put a whole lot of fingers in there.

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post Dec 20, 2009 - 6:54 PM
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QUOTE (trdproven @ Dec 20, 2009 - 7:43 PM) *
there is a difference but I would not say drastic. slight maybe. Why don't you adjust it lower and also toggle your damper at the same time. Honestly if you are going to keep it at that height it was pointless getting coilovers. you might as well get TRDs or Teins.

I have negative finger gap meaning my finger can't go inside the fender, I am touching the tire. You dont have to go that low but if you imagine where mine is at and your after difference, I can still put a whole lot of fingers in there.


I didn't get coilovers, I got megan lowering springs for $120 shipped. The negative finger gap that you talk about is completely impractical for a daily driver. Even if I did get adjustable coilovers I would never make a car sit that low. It's terrible for performance driving and terrible for the underside of your car. I already have to enter my driveway at a 45º angle just so I don't scrape. I'm not going to compare my car, which I have to use every day, to yours which just sits low for good looks.

You also have to keep in mind that my tires' sidewalls are undersized for 17" wheels, so the finger gap between tire and fender is exaggerated. If I had properly sized tires we probably wouldn't even be having this discussion

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I'm also not going to spend >800 dollars just so I can have my a** dragging on the ground trying to look cool tongue.gif
post Dec 20, 2009 - 7:58 PM
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i see they are springs. but even at the low setting. there is not much to worry about, we have potholes on the regular. unless you plan to fly over a big speed bump, there are no worries, our cars underside does not hang low like a camry's exhaust. Also coilovers are meant to be fully adjustable to be whatever you like, there is no downside to it. But honestly, if you are happy thats all that matters, I just didn't see much of a difference.


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