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sooo, the vast majority of you guys' appear to put ur nozzle closest to the tb, and not b4 the intercooler.
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Jul 20, 2007 - 7:32 AM
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QUOTE(CaliJeff @ Jul 19, 2007 - 9:50 PM) [snapback]580402[/snapback] sooo, the vast majority of you guys' appear to put ur nozzle closest to the tb, and not b4 the intercooler. correct. I dont see any good reason to put it that far back. It still makes a HUGE performance difference. |
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Jul 20, 2007 - 7:49 AM
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QUOTE(Defgeph @ Jul 19, 2007 - 11:49 PM) [snapback]580318[/snapback] I have had the same issue with this nozzle. It's either going through the rubber inlet, or replacing the cold start injector. I am not drilling a hole in my IC. What would be the consequences if the cold start injector is removed? Less fuel spray on startup, need more turns to start the car? -------------------- JDM Powerplant installed, BPU coming very soon!
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Jul 20, 2007 - 8:40 AM
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QUOTE(Kadett @ Jul 20, 2007 - 7:49 AM) [snapback]580495[/snapback] QUOTE(Defgeph @ Jul 19, 2007 - 11:49 PM) [snapback]580318[/snapback] I have had the same issue with this nozzle. It's either going through the rubber inlet, or replacing the cold start injector. I am not drilling a hole in my IC. What would be the consequences if the cold start injector is removed? Less fuel spray on startup, need more turns to start the car? yup[ |
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Jul 20, 2007 - 10:22 AM
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3rd gens dont have a csi. the ecu just dumps more fuel at start up with the regular injectors.
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Jul 20, 2007 - 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 20, 2007 - 5:22 PM) [snapback]580532[/snapback] 3rd gens dont have a csi. the ecu just dumps more fuel at start up with the regular injectors. Bad news for me then. -------------------- JDM Powerplant installed, BPU coming very soon!
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Jul 20, 2007 - 12:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 30, '05 From MN Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Just a suggestion, for those of you with the top mount: what if you fabricate 2 large enough washers fitting the contour of your rubber inlet and with holes tap/threaded in them for the nozzle. One of each washer on either side of the rubber inlet( that is inside and outside) to hold the nozzle. i think this might actually hold the nozzle securely and prevent it from being sucked in.
The only problem I see here might be the nozzle not being long enough to go through all the washers. But is something to look into if not tried already. -------------------- 3sgteing.
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Jul 20, 2007 - 12:49 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '07 From Bay Area, California Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
seems like a good idea, just gotta make sure it fits just rite tho.
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Aug 11, 2010 - 7:25 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 22, '07 From Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
bringing this thread back from the dead...
I have a GT-Four WRC and still haven't figured out where I'm going to put the nozzles after the W2A IC as close to the throttle body as possible. I asked _Jim_ and he said: QUOTE As for injector location, if your GEN3 isnt a WRC then there is no "spot" for you to just insert the injector. They have a special fitting for the meth injectors that allow you to fasten them to silcone couplers such as the one connecting the cold side of the W2A IC to the throttle body. If you dont want to do that, then you can drill and tap the top of the throttle body and inset it there. Does anyone have a picture of this "special fitting for the meth injectors" that he speaks of? I took a look around and have no idea what that looks like. -------------------- |
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Aug 11, 2010 - 7:43 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '08 From Bergenfield Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (78%) |
this will give you a visual of what I was talking about. There are several ways of doing it.
Water Injection nozzle for couplers...CLICK ME This post has been edited by _Jim_: Aug 11, 2010 - 7:45 PM --------------------
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Aug 11, 2010 - 7:50 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 16, '09 From New York Currently Offline Reputation: 23 (100%) |
can injection be put on any car? does it need to be turboed? im just curious
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Aug 11, 2010 - 7:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '08 From Bergenfield Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (78%) |
Yes, it can be put onto any car. But it only shows gains on cars with forced induction.
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Aug 11, 2010 - 8:00 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 16, '09 From New York Currently Offline Reputation: 23 (100%) |
oh bummer, next year, as next summer I will going to you for a swap...btw
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Aug 11, 2010 - 10:10 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 22, '07 From Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Aug 11, 2010 - 5:43 PM)  this will give you a visual of what I was talking about. There are several ways of doing it. Water Injection nozzle for couplers...CLICK ME Thanks Jim, that's what I was looking for. Looking at the AEM kit, it seems all I would be missing the adapter...can i get that at a hardware store? link to AEM kit This post has been edited by nammer: Aug 12, 2010 - 3:53 AM -------------------- |
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Aug 13, 2010 - 2:07 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 22, '07 From Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
anyone know where I can get the adapter that would fit with AEM's nozzles? It doesn't seem like AEM has those 90 degree nozzles.
Would it be okay to position the nozzle on the side of the silicone coupler (parallel with the ground and have the spray perpendicular to the airflow through the throttle body) and just use washers to make it fit tight and snug? Also, on a stock engine with aftermarket exhaust and intake, Jim told me a safe level to set my boost at is 18psi...what psi setting should I put on the progressive controller for start and full spray? They recommend the 315cc/min nozzle tip for 250-400hp...would it be overkill to use the 550cc/min nozzle for 400-650hp? The only problem I can see with this is too much water/meth might retard the combustion if temperatures aren't high enough... thanks! -------------------- |
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