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so are non-DOT altezza taillights. what is your point??

chalk that one up for the haynes repair manual explaining things so well;)

It said speed sensor, I had no clue... But if you have ABS, I suppose it would still be a problem

What be easier and had a better channce of success?

A celi on a 240SX frame or
celi on corrola frame

Both w/ 3SGTE

wont work, and no chance of ever working

corollas, celicas, and 240's are unibody cars. the body is the frame.

If someone seriously wanted to do this they could build a custom frame that will accept all the exterior from a celi.

My friends father races trucks, and they swap turck to unibody for weight reasons.

People who build 1932 ford roadster sdo not even use any parts from the car usually, they just buy it for a title.

Basically it would be the equivalent to a kit car.


Please don't flame me on this, but if you look into hot rod restoring you should be able to find out about this. I think it would be a killer idea. Would be completely original(show aspect), and would become a force to be reckoned with. Only prob is most cars built like this usually take around $70k to build, but it's just a thought.

that's why you bolt a small square tube frame to the floor panels. then you can cut away and not worry about it braking in half

that is similar to what some of my friend had to do to their G-bodies(monte carlo/cutlass) the fram has a tendency to twist when put under too much stress from motor.

This is getting even closer to turning a celi rw or awd w/o complications.
boxes in the chevy's work so I believe this would work also.

only prob is bottom of car has to be modified to hold a new rearend, right?

what rearend and tranny would be used for rwd?

Old style supra? a corrolla rear end?

what is the lengths of the rearend to see if it wouldn't be too wide? I can try to get info from someone at toyota.

I still think it would be awesome to have a rwd celica. It would go back to its root from the 1st gen celi. Guys we should make this a sticky and contribute info as we find it, and eventually when we think of everything we need and find the problems to solve before, then someone could build a rwd celi.

I do know a few shops around here that do work on drag cars.

I wonder how you would get the speedo to work...

*laughs*

Although I haven't read everything... I would assume you guys are making this sound a lot harder than it actually is. It all depends on one's ability to custom fabricate strong parts and weld. Tearing out the rear-end of the T20's wouldn't be that difficult, and then finding a proper fitting rear-drive system, also wouldn't be that hard. It's just that, no one is willing to put forth the study time and effort to make a dream possible. I'll tell you right now... it's not a matter of parts... it's a matter of will. I'm willing to bet (if I had a better welder and deeper pockets, and more faith in the T20 chassi) that I can probably dish this out. Parts-wise... IS200/ST205/ST185/ST165 rear-end, custom rear drive-axles, custom driveshaft, IS200 RWD tranny, S series motor/MZ series motor. With those parts... some custom fabrication and welding, you'll be pretty set.

And fallen... I believe the speedo sensor is on the tranny...

This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Jan 23, 2004 - 2:22 AM

ok since it's not going to happen i can tell you guys what me and one of my cousins had pland...

Supra engine,tranny,ecu, suspension
Celica Frame and chasie, interior

we were going to get this supra MKIV (don't ask) and then but a 6th gen celica hb and strip both cars down to the frame. and put everything that was on the supra onto the celica.

i know some of you think that could be done but i ask you why not and please don't say cause it coast to much or this wont fit in that or that wont work with his... a car is a car.. wheels turn and all 4 strokes work the same..

If you guys saw the things these mini-truckers can do with some square tube and a welder, you would see just how easy it would be to get the parts in place. My only problem with it is the electronics. I am sure you could figure a way to make it work though. If it were me, I'd use a nissan 240 rear end with an LSD. but that would through off the speedo I am sure. Did any toyota short of the supra and IS come with a LSD? I would guess the 2jz rear end would be HUGE, and difficult to fit even with proper tools... but if you were building a car to do some serious racing, this would be no problem.

The chassis is not made to handle the loads of RWD. You're going to snap the car.

man you guys must be smoking some good ****....

if you were to somehow put the celica body on another car, then it would not be a celica anymore. the best part if the 6th gen is how well it handles. whats next? welding a rolls royce front end to your car?

you really want rwd and 3sgte? trade your car in for an mr2 turbo. it would proabably be an even trade.

i mean, anything can be done in theory, but there are things that you just cant do without owning a car factory. but what the hell do i know. prove me wrong. stop posting and go out to your garage and start working on your project.

This post has been edited by lagos: Jan 24, 2004 - 10:29 PM

Where did you get this info from? I'd like to see some document validating this...

I have heard you can lock out the rwd portion of the GT-Four tranny. I wonder if you could lock out the front wheel drive parts, and leave it strictly rwd... Or is it set up like an Audi so that it's basically just a front wheel drive?

Fallen.. that's stupid.. If you're gonna swap the all the gear from the gt4 you may as well leave it AWD.

A mr2 is not the only form of RWD 3s action. You could swap a 3s-gte into a supra.. it's been done before and you'd have no worries about body strength...

Plus supra's don't look that much different

This post has been edited by KAMiX: Feb 1, 2004 - 7:42 AM

has anyone taken a st205 and made it RWD? what tranny can be used?

That might work, but I'd imagine it would be the same for any FF to FR Celica conversion simply because of the 4WD system toyota uses with the GT-4's/alltracs.

Oh... and the only RWD tranny that can mount the S series engine is from the Altezza...

i asked my mech about RWD on an allt rack... apparently to do that you have to turn your engine, because RWD trannys are placed in a totally different direction... which i coincedently notice the previous night while me and mechanic #2 had a mustang GT on a lift. I have my belts and stuff on the left side, mustang and camaro i looked at had thiers on the front. the tanny is just turned 90 degrees counter clockwise with an axel coming out of the end of it that goes to the back of the car.

Mina

This post has been edited by XXX_Mina: Feb 2, 2004 - 7:09 PM

Tis the reason why I said it would be no different between any of the celicas, whether they're gt-4s or not (aside from FR Celicas). The only other difference would be the rear-ends, in which case, would be slightly easier on a GT-4 considering there will already be places to mount a rear-drive system, if not use the exsisting one. I'm guessing even you yourself aren't too sure what's involved, considering your posts... but that's ok. I assumed most people already realised that most if not all RWD trannies require the engine to be mounted longitudinally... so a RWD conversion would also require it... That means, everything under the hood will be custom, from motor mounts, tranny mounts, intake manifold (exhaust and turbo plumbing if a turbo motor is used), accessory placements, cooling lines/plumbing, wiring, firewall mods, etc... Basically, wake up and smell the coffee cause it's not gonna happen. It'll be wayy to expensive and the results will not be any greater than say buying a Supra or something... it'll be unique... but a very expensive unique...