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I've been browsing the forums for quite some time but haven't yet pinpointed the exact problem.
Warm and cold, my car will idle fine, but occasionally the RPMs will drop and jump to normal a few times.
While driving, it will accelerate smoothly, but often it seems like it looses power and hesitates at any RPMs.
When it looses power, the car tends to buck and jerk or sometimes not accelerate at all.
If I increase the acceleration it still refuses to push and creates a pop from the excess air/fuel.
Last week it got to the point where it wouldn't drive a block without the engine dying
and it wouldn't even accelerate in neutral.

So far I've tried swapping plugs (NGK), changing oil and filter, changing the fuel filter, cleaning the buildup in the headers,
fixing any exhaust leaks, cleaning out the throttle body, cleaning the fuel injection system, changing the fuel pump,
and swapping old vacuum hoses (I made sure they matched the diagram) with new ones of the same size.

There was an oil leak from a bad seal that got into one of my plug's chamber which was fixed. Distributor and cap are fine. Air filter is clean.
All the maintenance that I did made it better and drivable, but it still does the same thing and I only expect it to become worse.
The car is all stock, no mods with a 5s-fe @210k. Bought it used not too long ago and it ran perfectly fine then.
I'm not really a mechanic, so anyone have any suggestions?

This post has been edited by Raeas: Mar 11, 2011 - 6:22 PM

My gtfour does this sometimes when cold, it has never done it while walm.
Anyone know what may be causing this ?

try a compression test. if those numbers are good then id look into electronic issues. is the MAP sensor ok? ignition timing?

Thanks for the quick replies, sorry for the slow one! And I think i finally found my problem. I noticed an air leak sound while driving it one day so i took a look under my hood and noticed that the previous owners had super glued a broken valve magnet (name? #90910-13007) for the idle up and it broke off again, so i replaced it. A bit costly, ~$200 but now my celi is running like a champ again. A little more than a week, and no problems whatsoever.

Part is also located just above the oil cap, for reference.


It went from this:
Video

To... I'll do a recording later if anyone would like to listen. ;]

This post has been edited by Raeas: Apr 8, 2011 - 11:19 PM

I've had every problem a GT4 could possibly have, except for that one!


Hessitation is normal when the 3s-gte is cold. Everything feels like its seized up, Kinda like your joints when u wake up at 5.30 on a cold morning, you can get it to move by giving it some throttle but it feels like "ugghh do i have to?", thats when u have the most friction on your engine. It should never refuse to rev though or stall, you're just feeling the effects of 8:1 compression with no boost

This post has been edited by delusionz: Apr 9, 2011 - 2:53 AM

is your car an automatic?

So you recon its normal for it to do it sometimes when cold, it hasn't happened recently. But when it happens im in 2nd gear and about 2 to 3 thousand revs and it jerks a little. Sort feels like it has no power..

Just those revs and when its cold?

If you give it a harder push on the accelerator does it sort of break through the laziness and make it a bit easier to rev? If so, it sounds completely normal to me.

Don't drive like that though, just let it be gutless until warm. Just the once wont hurt it though

if your on toyspeed read this

http://forums.toyspeed.org.nz/viewtopic.php?t=82306

Thanks for that, thats exactly what my car does. His problem was caused by the knock sensor.