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 Oct 19, 2011 - 11:54 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '09 From albuquerque Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
well a friend told me awhile ago to join this forum even tho i dont have a 6th gen. i thought i would share with you guys what i have done.
my ride originally started off as a 1991 Toyota Celica gt st184, as we all know has a 5sfe. i started off with your basic mods. some visuals and suspension work. then wanted more power so i decided to build up a 5sgte. heres what the ride has. still in the build process but almost done. # Electronics 1. AEM Engine Management 2. HKS Evec's Electronic boost controler 3. HKS Turbo Timer Type 1 4. Prosport Gauge Wideband Gauge 5. Prosport Oil Pressure Gauge 6. Prosport Oil Temp Gauge 7. Prosport Exhaust Gas Temperature Gauge 8. Prosport Volt Gauge 9. Prosport Boost Gauge 10. Prosport Tach Gauge 11. Autometer Coolant Temp Gauge 12. Autometer Fuel Level Gauge 13. MSD 6A Ignition Control 14. MSD Blaster 2 Coil # Engine 1. JE Forged Pistons .20 over bore 2. Eagle Forged Connecting Rods 3. Cometic MLS Head Gasket 4. Toga HV Oil Pump 5. HKS Valve Springs 6. HKS Cam Gears 7. ATS T-vis Phnolic Spacer 8. HUX Racing 3sgte Manifold 9. Custom Oil Pan 10. Turbonetics T3/T4 Turbocharger 11. Front Mount Intercooler 12. Water to air intercooler 13. HKS SSQV Special edition black BOV 14. Shaved Valve Cover 15. CX Racing 2.5 Inch Intercooler Piping 16. Stage 3 Clutch 17. Flywheel 18. Topline Water Pump 19. Wolfkatz Fuel Rail 20. Precision Injection Fuel Injectors 21. Cast Iron 3sgte exhaust manifold 22. Prosport Oil Catch Can 23. 3 Inch Exhaust (Downpipe to muffler) # Suspension 1. Ebaich Sprotline Springs 1.5 inch Lowering 2. Rear Drum To Disk Conversion. 3. Willwood Adjustable Purporting Valve # Chassis 1. Seibon Carbon Fiber Alltrac Hood 2. Masked Tail lights 3. Clear Bumper and Corner Lights 4. Tinted Windows 5. AC/Heat Delete 6. EZ Wiring Chassy Harness # Interrior 1. Custom Dashboard/ac vent delete 2. Ac Vent Gauge Mod 3. Custom Gauge Cluster 4. Custom Black Carpet 5. Custom Headliner 6. Scat/Proscar Racing Seats 7. 5 Point Racing Harness's 8. Rear Seats Removed/Cover Plate made  old picture of what she looked like when i first got the car.  heres what she looks like. its a older picture from before the build. that tach is gone and replaced with a smaller one.  the back end. also a older picture. when i had my 2.5 inch exhaust.  -------------------- Illusion Performance Founder
1991 Toyota Celica 5sgte Powered Ebiach sportlines. Seibon cf hood. Aem engine management. Hux racing intake manifold. Hks evec-s, hks valve springs, hks cam gears. Prosport gauges. Prosport oil catch can. Je pistons. Eagle rods. Toga hv oil pump. Masked tail lights. Drum to disk conversion. Just to name afew 2002 Volkswagen Golf GLS Short Ram Intake, Tinted Tail lights, 2 12 Inch subwoofers, Apline Head Unit, Alpine Amps |
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Oct 19, 2011 - 1:00 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Engine build threads are always welcome. PLease give us some details of the process
 WELCOME!
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Oct 19, 2011 - 1:21 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
Why are you double intercooling?
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Oct 19, 2011 - 1:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '09 From albuquerque Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (playr158 @ Oct 19, 2011 - 2:21 PM)  Why are you double intercooling? In double cooling because you dont see it verry often. Aswell with this build. most people just swap to a 3s. Also water to air is better for low speeds and a front mount is better for high speed. The purpose of this car is to have a dragster and a road corse car. I will post the build process when i get home. -------------------- Illusion Performance Founder
1991 Toyota Celica 5sgte Powered Ebiach sportlines. Seibon cf hood. Aem engine management. Hux racing intake manifold. Hks evec-s, hks valve springs, hks cam gears. Prosport gauges. Prosport oil catch can. Je pistons. Eagle rods. Toga hv oil pump. Masked tail lights. Drum to disk conversion. Just to name afew 2002 Volkswagen Golf GLS Short Ram Intake, Tinted Tail lights, 2 12 Inch subwoofers, Apline Head Unit, Alpine Amps |
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Oct 19, 2011 - 2:16 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 30, '11 From Albany, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
hey sub, nice to see you again. Ive been following this build still and Im waiting for the finish =). Didnt you have to put the build on hold because you moved to Japan?
Anyway glad you joined and nice to see a 5sgte build! also is it now a 2.4L? --------------------  Power in Balance 90 ST coupe- Sold 95 ST hatch- Dead :’( 02 Impreza RS- DD |
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Oct 19, 2011 - 4:05 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '09 From albuquerque Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (NYp8tBaller07 @ Oct 19, 2011 - 2:16 PM) hey sub, nice to see you again. Ive been following this build still and Im waiting for the finish =). Didnt you have to put the build on hold because you moved to Japan? Anyway glad you joined and nice to see a 5sgte build! also is it now a 2.4L? turns out im not moving to japan. alot of things happened and its a no go. so im working on the celica still. -------------------- Illusion Performance Founder
1991 Toyota Celica 5sgte Powered Ebiach sportlines. Seibon cf hood. Aem engine management. Hux racing intake manifold. Hks evec-s, hks valve springs, hks cam gears. Prosport gauges. Prosport oil catch can. Je pistons. Eagle rods. Toga hv oil pump. Masked tail lights. Drum to disk conversion. Just to name afew 2002 Volkswagen Golf GLS Short Ram Intake, Tinted Tail lights, 2 12 Inch subwoofers, Apline Head Unit, Alpine Amps |
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Oct 19, 2011 - 4:09 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 30, '11 From Albany, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
oh okay. yea theres another 5sgte build and i refurred them to your build; itll be interesting to see how much power they both put down when finished. :-)
-------------------- Power in Balance 90 ST coupe- Sold 95 ST hatch- Dead :’( 02 Impreza RS- DD |
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Oct 19, 2011 - 4:28 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '09 From albuquerque Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
you wanted build pictures so heres what ive done.
initial removal of the old 5sfe.  some interrior shots while i was pulling everything. some minor parts were removed.  cheap sunpro mechanical gauges. i have upgraded to prosport electronic gauges sense then  pics of the 5s block coming out. block orginaly had 207,000 miles on it and showed. block was caked with dirt and road grime   5S camshaft removal  5s head removed. you can see the carbon deposits on the pistons. they were REALLY bad.  5s valves in the head. same condition as the pistons. exhaust side had some nasty carbon build up.  closer shot of the 5s piston.  5s crank in the block  bare 5s block.  block was vatted bored .20 over and honed by my local machinist shop. and the build up.      test fitment of the turbo, manifold and down pipe. i will be replacing or moving the wastegate later to prevent boost creep  and the engine is in the car.   intercooler piping has been a BITCH to route in this thing. later down the road i am going to have the intake pipes welded together while my interior isnt original anymore its gone through alot of development. im currently on my 2nd dash. and most of my car what i need to do is wiring. my old wire harness was beat up fuse box was melted due to a electrical fire. so i am in the process of installing a new one. heres my dash.  general idea of the gauge cluster bezel.  my buddy over at seatbeltpads made me some custom 5sgte seatbelt pads.  thats all that i can think of at the moment. i will be redoing my head later on down the road with some hks cams bigger valves. port and polish, Nos and all that good stuff. all that i have left right now is to run some plumbing and wiring. This post has been edited by subspec: Oct 19, 2011 - 4:31 PM -------------------- Illusion Performance Founder
1991 Toyota Celica 5sgte Powered Ebiach sportlines. Seibon cf hood. Aem engine management. Hux racing intake manifold. Hks evec-s, hks valve springs, hks cam gears. Prosport gauges. Prosport oil catch can. Je pistons. Eagle rods. Toga hv oil pump. Masked tail lights. Drum to disk conversion. Just to name afew 2002 Volkswagen Golf GLS Short Ram Intake, Tinted Tail lights, 2 12 Inch subwoofers, Apline Head Unit, Alpine Amps |
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Oct 19, 2011 - 5:20 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 31, '11 From Rochester, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Very curious to see what this thing puts out in the end. I don't know if I've seen a 5S with a 3S head in a Celica before. I've seen it done to MR2's.
-------------------- 1994 Toyota Celica GT-S 5S-FE 190k Miles. Project car 1992 Toyota Celica GT 5S-FE 170k Miles. Daily driver/beater 1999 Toyota Camry LE 5S-FE 216K Miles. RIP You will be missed.  *ASE Certified General Manager |
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Oct 19, 2011 - 6:12 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '09 From albuquerque Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
same principle. a 5s block is a 5s block with the exception of what generations from what i've read the 90-91 revision of the 5s is optimum. the 92+ has issues with the water jackets not lining up. the head that i am using is a 2nd gen 3sgte
-------------------- Illusion Performance Founder
1991 Toyota Celica 5sgte Powered Ebiach sportlines. Seibon cf hood. Aem engine management. Hux racing intake manifold. Hks evec-s, hks valve springs, hks cam gears. Prosport gauges. Prosport oil catch can. Je pistons. Eagle rods. Toga hv oil pump. Masked tail lights. Drum to disk conversion. Just to name afew 2002 Volkswagen Golf GLS Short Ram Intake, Tinted Tail lights, 2 12 Inch subwoofers, Apline Head Unit, Alpine Amps |
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Oct 19, 2011 - 11:57 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 31, '11 From Rochester, NY Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Yeah, I read that you have to mill them out or something to make them line up if you use one of the newer 5S blocks.
-------------------- 1994 Toyota Celica GT-S 5S-FE 190k Miles. Project car 1992 Toyota Celica GT 5S-FE 170k Miles. Daily driver/beater 1999 Toyota Camry LE 5S-FE 216K Miles. RIP You will be missed. *ASE Certified General Manager |
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Oct 20, 2011 - 5:09 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 26, '08 From Fort Bragg, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
so a 3s head wont fit on a 95 5sfe block? Im new to the motorside of these things.
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Oct 20, 2011 - 5:14 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 7, '07 From Corpus Christi, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
QUOTE (subspec @ Oct 19, 2011 - 4:05 PM) QUOTE (NYp8tBaller07 @ Oct 19, 2011 - 2:16 PM) hey sub, nice to see you again. Ive been following this build still and Im waiting for the finish =). Didnt you have to put the build on hold because you moved to Japan? Anyway glad you joined and nice to see a 5sgte build! also is it now a 2.4L? turns out im not moving to japan. alot of things happened and its a no go. so im working on the celica still. Konnichiwa friend what part of Japan are u going too? I wanna go back so bad. Check as many car shops n junk yards as possible when u get there. They r Celica heaven
-------------------- From Japan to Texas my st202 follows me.
 Being different from every angle of the word, leading the Revolution (TOYOTA NATION) The RHD st202 that made it from Japan check it out. http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=78103 |
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Oct 20, 2011 - 7:39 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '09 From albuquerque Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I was suppose to goto kadena but my orders were canceled.
The newer 5s from what ive read dont have the same water jackets but nothing that some grinding cant take care of. A 90 to 91 block is optimum. -------------------- Illusion Performance Founder
1991 Toyota Celica 5sgte Powered Ebiach sportlines. Seibon cf hood. Aem engine management. Hux racing intake manifold. Hks evec-s, hks valve springs, hks cam gears. Prosport gauges. Prosport oil catch can. Je pistons. Eagle rods. Toga hv oil pump. Masked tail lights. Drum to disk conversion. Just to name afew 2002 Volkswagen Golf GLS Short Ram Intake, Tinted Tail lights, 2 12 Inch subwoofers, Apline Head Unit, Alpine Amps |
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Oct 21, 2011 - 3:43 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 26, '08 From Fort Bragg, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
would there be any gains swapping the 3s head over with cams and port polish on a 5s untouched block for an N/A application?
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Oct 25, 2011 - 4:14 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '09 From albuquerque Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
you should notice a gain. im not sure how much but by port and polish and adding a bigger cam you def will notice it. theres alot of parts that you will need to swap over. like
head intake manifold 3sge harness 3sge ecu 3sge fuel rail 3sge alternator bracket 3sge crank timing gear 3sge tensioner 3sge timing belt 3sge water neck ....etc my recent addition to my build. i purchased some wolfkatz engineering fuel injector cups so i can mount my fuel rail and injectors and i finished up my radio bezel with gauge cluster heres a shot of the gauge cluster in the bezel.  -------------------- Illusion Performance Founder
1991 Toyota Celica 5sgte Powered Ebiach sportlines. Seibon cf hood. Aem engine management. Hux racing intake manifold. Hks evec-s, hks valve springs, hks cam gears. Prosport gauges. Prosport oil catch can. Je pistons. Eagle rods. Toga hv oil pump. Masked tail lights. Drum to disk conversion. Just to name afew 2002 Volkswagen Golf GLS Short Ram Intake, Tinted Tail lights, 2 12 Inch subwoofers, Apline Head Unit, Alpine Amps |
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Oct 25, 2011 - 11:37 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 7, '07 From Corpus Christi, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
Kadena AFB in Okinawa? Lucky. I was at Camp Foster. Deff should hit up (3WayStunna) Thats where he is at off and on.
This post has been edited by Lil-Joe101: Oct 25, 2011 - 11:37 AM -------------------- From Japan to Texas my st202 follows me.
Being different from every angle of the word, leading the Revolution (TOYOTA NATION) The RHD st202 that made it from Japan check it out. http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=78103 |
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