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post Oct 21, 2010 - 7:49 PM
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FIRST OF ALL DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK. DO NOT HOLD ME RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGES, "FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY, NOT HIGHWAY"

After that nice disclaimer....


Ok im tired of looking at 500 dollar calipers. Yes it would be nice, but what about the people that dont have money.

anything other that our poor piss single piston caliper would be nice..

but there are double piston calipers from some ss3 celicas, yeah!! even more rare that hens teeth.

(well maybe not)


regardless of that issue, i will not spend 1899 on a big brake kit on a car that is not going to the track, i rather eat that money in bigmacs.

So imagine a bigger car, bigger engine. Those brakes stop that car, it must stop the celica. Hmmm larger car. So it must be an upgrade. Yes by 25% or 50% its still upgrading even if it gets 10%.

so i ordered from fleabay, after weeks of pictures and pictures.

got it today and see both brake pads together



now that i got your attention, lets see more pics





almost same size, a little larger and wait it gets better..



yes that's a celica bracket from a 97 gt, but there is a problem, the cliper mounts are 3/4 of an inch inside the caliper... aprrox..




so i compared the brackets... side by side



they are almost identical except the point where the caliper bolts...

no its not easy to bolt the bracket into the celica because of the mounting points..



however its funny how the caliper mount points are identical,



so most calipers points could be identical... meaning its junkyard time...

there are two options, get another celica bracket and cut those extended studs and figure if it works..



or find a bracket from another toyota that bolts to our hub and has the same caliper mounts but in a different position.

OR! something you can come up with to help this......

And please no "Just get st205 calipers" replies, This caliper was 25 bucks on ebay. Big difference.

I will let you all know where this one comes from but for now, i just want you guys to get itchy. I bet culpable knows!!! LOL

no, this is not world domination, i need your help, this might turn out great, or it may not work.....


Once we figure out the bracket, it may just work with the celica rotors...

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post Dec 30, 2011 - 2:21 AM
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to my understanding they look ohh so similar! biggrin.gif ahemm what do you think richee???


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post Dec 30, 2011 - 3:29 PM
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Those do look pretty similar. Only one way to find out! If my SS-III brakes don't get shipped out soon, I'll definitely measure every aspect of the pads to see how close they are.


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post Dec 30, 2011 - 3:38 PM
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what are we comparing? maybe i can help/


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post Dec 30, 2011 - 3:50 PM
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Dec 30, 2011 - 3:38 PM) *
what are we comparing? maybe i can help/


SS-III pads vs 93+ MR2 turbo pads. scroll through this whole thread again you'll be able to remember everything. My pics are on the previous page fyi tongue.gif


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post Dec 30, 2011 - 11:04 PM
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Yes the MR2 turbo pads do fit the ST202 twin pots, I said a while back in richee3's thread that they might. I wanted to find a thread on another site, where this person had mr2 pads on ST202 twin pots to confirm it. Plus the TRD pads part numbers confirm aswell


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post Dec 31, 2011 - 2:53 AM
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QUOTE (Rusty @ Dec 31, 2011 - 12:04 AM) *
Yes the MR2 turbo pads do fit the ST202 twin pots, I said a while back in richee3's thread that they might. I wanted to find a thread on another site, where this person had mr2 pads on ST202 twin pots to confirm it. Plus the TRD pads part numbers confirm aswell


yes Rusty you are right thanks for the confirmation tongue.gif

MR2 page http://www.trdparts.jp/english/list_mr2.html
Celica ST202 Page http://www.trdparts.jp/english/list_st-celica.html
part number for pads : 04491-SW210

Here is some more confirmation as well :

http://www.fensport.co.uk/Parts/Model_27/Category_11/2672
http://www.rhdjapan.com/sard-type-a-front-...ds-toyota-13745

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post Jan 1, 2012 - 11:14 PM
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So as following specs are you can see that they do sell SS-III twin calipers online in which seemed to be refurbished

The twin piston caliper specs (SS-III):
Piston Diameter: 40.4mm
Piston Count: 2
Total Piston Area: 2563.79mm2 (25.6379cm2)


http://www.brakepartssuperstore.org.uk/con...-uk/d11440.html

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post Jun 6, 2012 - 1:46 AM
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a guy on mr2 boards mentioned the twin piston front calipers on turbo MK2 are biased towards the rear (hence MR Engine)


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post Aug 23, 2012 - 8:23 PM
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I'm pretty we can use 1st gen (94-97) Avalon Twin pot calipers.



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Awesome information!!

anyone ever find out if the 4runner ones fit? I think they are 2 or 4piston...


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QUOTE (SXA10 @ Aug 23, 2012 - 8:23 PM) *
I'm pretty we can use 1st gen (94-97) Avalon Twin pot calipers.
http://rav4gtt.files.wordpress.com/2012/08...ontcaliper.jpeg


I can confirm this fits on these 1st Gen (94-97) Avalon or w/ABS Twin Pot Calipers, do in fact fit Celica GT Brake Bracket perfectly!!

From the info I've gathered, these calipers came on the following cars:
95 - 97 Toyota Avalon w/ABS
94 - 96 Toyota Camry V6 w/ABS
94 - 96 Lexus ES300

Caliper specs:
Piston Diameter: 43.5mm
Piston Count: 2
Total Piston Area: 2902.93mm2 (29.0293cm2)

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post Sep 20, 2012 - 2:19 PM
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is that all avalons or which specific models??

do you have pictures of it mounted on the car with stock 275mm gt brake rotors

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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Sep 20, 2012 - 2:19 PM) *
WHY DID YOU PUT AVALON (SS-III)(I only say this not to confuse new members) when an avalon is not a celica?? is that all avalons or which specific models??

do you have pictures of it mounted on the car with stock 275mm gt brake rotors


I've made the appropriate changes to make it clearer.

I have pics but this is for a different Toyota vehicle and I think you'd agree, I shouldn't confuse anyone. I can only confirm they'll fit on the Celica GT Brake Bracket. This would indicate they fit the stock 275mm GT Brake Rotor. The Avalon/Camry/ES300 rotor is 275mm and 28mm thick with a 49mm offset height. They are of a different lug pattern, 5x114 vs the Celica's 5x100.

Just look for yourself...here are the Avalon/Camry/ES300 rotor:


Vs the Celica GT rotor:


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post Sep 21, 2012 - 2:17 PM
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the es300 does not work, the offset of the caliper is wrong.


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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Sep 21, 2012 - 2:17 PM) *
the es300 does not work, the offset of the caliper is wrong.


Which ES300?
What offset? bracket offset? rotor offset? hub offset?

I'm only referring to the 94-96 ES300.

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post Sep 21, 2012 - 8:32 PM
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this is it...


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Those calipers are from a 4th Generation MCV30 Lexus ES300 02-03 & ES330 04-06.
They are not the same calipers I'm referring to.


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well it might just work then.... GL


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QUOTE (SXA10 @ Aug 23, 2012 - 8:23 PM) *
I'm pretty we can use 1st gen (94-97) Avalon Twin pot calipers.






These do in fact work, work well I might add. And the clear the stock GT alloys.
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AS THE SAYING GOES. pictures or it didn't happen!


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